SURPRISE! Nader plans Obama primary challenge to “hold his feet to the fire.”

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the system is so broken... I would give a shit as a dem if it weren't. Maybe shaking up the tree is what we all need.

:puke: :argh:

Ok, if Obama is challenged… does it have to be Nader? Could we at the least get a "serious" candidate and not this clown?

Wish makes me wonder… who in the hell is going to run after Obama? Where are the new progressive faces out there?

Two reasons to stay home.

They must have something in common.

you make a fool of your self.

FOXPAC has no real challenger, So they create a diversion, slight of hand if you will
to make Obama more hated than what meets the eye, Sure Some things I'm not happy
about, But I'm not willing to give the keys back to the mental midgets that got us
into this mess.

He unfairly gets the blame for 2000 and the shitty W Bush. Nader did not make it so close on a NATIONAL level that it came down to one state. You could take any year's election, make it that close, and then blame any minor candidate.

What made it close on a NATIONAL level (allowing Florida to become the battleground) was the legacy of Clinton's perjury attempts to cover his arse from an over-zealous turd of a prosecutor, the poor campaign run by a very mediocre Al Gore, and the stupidity of so many in America to vote a towel-snapping, anti-intellectual punk like W into any office above dog-catcher.

How he loves to see his name in print or hear the sound of his own voice. What Ralphie really loves to promote is, well, Ralphie.

guy that's been a consumer advocate and progressive political activist almost his entire adult life.
He has more guts to take on the corporate elites in this country in his little finger than most politicians have in their entire carcasses.
Do you know anything about him? Ever MET the guy?
Get to know him and maybe your self professed ignorance wouldn't be so blatantly obvious.

Ralph Nader's Skeleton Closet:
http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm#antiunion

Lots of information here, with sources as well, such as:



Here's another one, "The Dark Side of Ralph Nader: http://www.hereinstead.com/DARK-SIDE-OF-RALPH.htm

About his role in Gore's 2000 elections loss, which so many here dismiss:



The anti-union Ralph.
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=13254



So perhaps you should get off your knees in your worship of Saint Ralph and learn something yourself. There's lots of information out there to expose him for the hypocritical, self-serving bastard he is.

But I don't think it was Clinton, either. Sure, Clinton had a behavior problem, but still Gore would have won but for the disenfranchisement of likely Dem voters in FL. Even so, if it had ended there Gore *still* would have won but for the intervention of the Supreme Court.

on. Nader is not a Democrat.

President, not so much. Can't Nader find something productive to do, all year round? He seems like a Rudy Giuliani, someone that TV drags forward every four years, to say something that the media is trying to push. Sarah Palin is sort of transitioning into that mold now, as well. Nader could be a GREAT Senator or Congressman though.

But as a primary challenger, not a good idea. For one thing, challenging Obama from the left will allow Obama to tack to the center. Most people understand that to win the presidency, you have to win the independents. A liberal challenger will allow Obama to push his moderate credentials, as a way of portraying himself as more reasonable than the liberal candidate by comparison. In other words, exactly the opposite of what liberals would want a primary challenger to do (make Obama act more liberal). If you remember the 2008 primary, one of Obama's goals was to appear more progressive than candidates like Dick Gephardt and John Kerry. So on the positive side, a Nader challenge makes Obama look good to independents. On the negative side, it costs the Democrats money that they will need to defeat the GOP.

I am happy to hear this.

And there I was all ready to sit this one out.

Could it be he does not care where he gets funding? He can say one thing and do whatever he wants under citizens united. This time the spigots could open wide. As many issues as I have with Obama I have many more with Nader. Moderators remove this thread!

needs to sit down and stfu.

the man is a joke.

"this asshole who gave us bush for president" - Fact check: see SCOUS
"needs to sit down and stfu." -
First Amendment to the United States Constitution
"the man is a joke." - Ad hominem fallacy

Ask yourself why he only ends up helping Republicans.