Anonymous Occupy The Planet. Speech from Anonymous. Here we Go!

Run time: 02:23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE1Bo_VjhZM   Posted on YouTube: October 02, 2011 By YouTube Member: MrRevelationtv Views on YouTube: 27   Posted on DU: October 02, 2011 By DU Member: marmar Views on DU: 7696

 

Ok, I didn't really unrec...but I wanted to. Dammit, tell us what it is you're asking us to click on!!!

Title sums it up, IMO. It is encouraging people to join the protests.

I know about Anonymous, I know about OWS...what are you asking me to click on? Would it hurt to just give me a sentence or two? SOMETHING that tells me this isn't something I've seen before? When you look through a couple hundred DU posts day (on a quiet day), you have to offer a teaser, just a modicum of information. A subject line doesn't cut it. At least for me.

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No offense to their fans here, but they aren't exactly known for ground breaking policy changes.

For the most part, they are not left or right, but general anarchists. They don't like the system, and feel that no one is competent to change it.

I agree with the general message, but disagree with them in that you can't just rant about something unless you offer solutions. Something Anonymous is in short supply on.

Quite a few of the #OWS groups ARE offering solutions (reverse Citizens United, bring back Glass-Steagal), but many have no idea - they just know they are pissed. It is that crowd Anonymous caters to as they are more apolitical.

This video is just more of the same. Get angry, make your presence known.

Until viable solutions are developed (and someone/someones with a spine - and the clout) back them, that is all it will be to these guys. Sound and fury.

Fortunately, they are not the reason or the cause for #OWS, they are just anarchists jumping on the pissed-off bandwagon just like the LaRouche and Ron Paul crowds.

I thank them for their numbers, but they offer nothing in terms of actual change.

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but a few different groups. Highly recommend Nation of Change as a good source for for news too.

http://www.nationofchange.org/just-practice-story-wall-street-occupation-1316877493

Really,. why the hate for anarchists? Do you only understand that label as the Corporate Media uses it? (to imply chaos and disorder) Anarchy is actually quite a noble political position. No to hierarchical power structures,. voluntary cooperation, consensus building,. many great political ideas come from the anarchist political ideal. The difficulty with practical anarchy is that it requires a strong community of like minded individuals to create a culture that supports and maintains the ideals. With out cops you need social pressures to keep people from abusing power,. when people take too much from the community those around them must talk them down, keeping the social balance.

The current corporate capitalist system destroys community at every turn,. divides the community to weaken it's power. Keeps people over worked so they have no time to participate in community,. and so on.

try;

http://www.anarchymag.org
http://www.practicalanarchy.org
http://anarchismtoday.org

Anyway, Anonymous is just one facet of the current revolution,. an affinity group of OccupyWallSt,. . and their actions that further the cause are quite welcome. No one person has the whole answer,. this is why we need to come together as a community and generate consensus on the biggest problems,. and this is happening now. Don't expect a white knight to fix this for you,. get out there and make your dreams known, so we can build them as a group.

One needs to look no further than the World Bank protests in Seattle and Pittsburgh to see the futility of pure anarchy without purpose or goals.

Thankfully, #OWS has not turned into that (breaking glass for the sake of breaking glass, setting shit on fire for the sake of setting shit on fire) or no one would take them seriously and seek actual change.

This is about systemic change, not the overthrow of a single despot.

the cheerleaders do not play the game. In both groups there will eventually develop a core leadership for which the rest of us will play two roles: cheerleaders who call out the troops(us) and the other role is more complicated in that it will call of all of us to take action. My guess is that the first action will be this occupation move and then to vote in 2012 not because we necessarily think voting gets us anywhere but because the alternative is unthinkable.

That is so simple, but very profound. Love it!

I have always maintained that there are visionaries and there are implementers. Ones who can dream the big dream and those who can mire in the details to make it happen - and asking them to cross roles is usually not successful. I will add the value of the cheerleaders to that analogy.

Thanks!

they don't need to explain why it's worth giving them a listen.

http://october2011.org/blogs/kevin-zeese/anonymous-we-are-everywhere-occupy-everywhere-occupytogetherorg

We Are Everywhere. Occupy Everywhere. OccupyTogether.org

no fucking synopsis. Occupy the Planet by Anonymous is certainly enough for me.

Glad to see the Movement growing.

K and R

If you've taken the time to post a video link, take ten more seconds to tell the viewer what they're about to link to. Why is that so difficult?

nt

But really...there is too much content on DU to be clicking on every video just because the sub-line sounds good. Too often, it ain't good. That's all I'm saying. Take a second to compel the readers, don't assume we all know what you're jazzed about.

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All you have to do, if you've seen it already, is just click the stop button after the first few seconds, then close the tab in your browser.

Geez.

some days, it just ain't worth chewing through the restraints...

self explanatory. Of course, I read almost all of anything about Anonymous and Occupying Anywhere.

I've got to get a 'V is for Vendetta' mask for Halloween.

You have a pet peeve....mine is the Express Lane at the Grocery Store. NO MORE THAN 15 ITEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!

flimsy and plastic and over priced but they have them

never understood why it's still such an icon for a movement spouting against corporate control when they pay right into the corporation when using that mask.

we americans like symbols and icons even when it's against our interests.

While I support the protests and the concept of Anonymous, I don't support stupidly following a trend because it's "cool".

the mask is now completely mainstream and timewarner laughs at all of us while making bank.

before Halloween. And I bet it's made in China.

I couldn't understand since the voice was all computer automated and the music was kind of dominating the video.

I'm not being snarky, I'm being sincere. I even understood, and my ears are plugged up from sinus congestion right now.

..."Because I said so" should be sufficient. But I'm not your 13 year old. There are far too many video posted here every day to expect people to click and wait, only to find it's not what the sub says, or that you've seen it posted by others six times under a different sub line. It's just common courtesy.

Such a simple courtesy to take a moment and give a summary.

Welcome to the world. I'm glad you've come up from under your rock.

K&R

Everybody does. They could be a part, but it will be the collaboration between all of us that wins us this fight.

The history of protest movements should teach us that extremists who often commit crimes are used to delegit what otherwise was a powerful movement.

Don't fall for it.

-t-

http://october2011.org/blogs/margaret-flowers/press-release-anonymous

I wrote a thread about it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2012415

Guy Fawkes is a fitting symbol for the Occupy Wall Street protestors.

After all, he was a failed mass murderer who was trying to kill one monarch only to install another who he hoped would change the state religion to a different "brand".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

(note; you may want several strong drinks before you read the "Trial and Execution" section).

the Gunpowder Plotters should probably have realized they'd be in over their heads.

... It would be insanity for the general populace to repeat this act over and over throughout history.

A Republic... if we an hold it, means that we must hold it without the same outcome.

You either agree that this is possible, or go hide under your bed whilst describing tales of torture.

We don't have a Crown, but we are supposed to remember that we have a Democratic Republic, and that we have rights under the Constitution... regardless of how it's been bastardized by the SCOTUS, the POTUS, and the war machine economy.

We have learned SOME things from what happened to Guy Fawkes(AND the Weather Underground).

The notion that violence is active and nonviolence isn't is an old Sixties myth...probably planted by FBI informants to cause splits in the Left of that era.

(Not saying that was your motive or intent, of course).

Just barbaric, the way they did things back then . . .

They hung the person, but didn't kill them, leaving them helpless but fully aware as important body parts were being sliced off and dragged out.

That's why Fawkes made sure to JUMP off the gallows, so he wouldn't be alive for the rest of it. The others were, though. That was the point...to do all that while the victims could feel it.

the Fifth of November...

when we buy them, we pay into a corporation.

kind of goes completely against what the protests are all about.

And frankly, I find it really interesting that we Americans use a British icon of a failed "revolutionary" when we have plenty of our own in our history, against that same British monarchy, who were successful.

it's just good marketing and an "edgy" mask that makes all the kids squeal.

It's really a sad statement, especially regarding all the other protests in the world who don't require a mask to make their point.

Replace this "icon"... What would I see and how would I identify with the OWS revolution?

I don't honor October 31st either Halloween as a time of pumpkins and witches, but I'm willing and accept that symbol as Samhain, or "summer's end".

So, what is the symbol

Also, if we use a Revolutionary War icon, should we not use the image of a slave owner?

How about something that doesn't contribute to the corporations?

How about something that doesn't fund the opposition?

who said anything about the revolution? :shrug: when you think of American history, that's all you can think of?

Personally, I think woman's suffrage or the civil rights movement of the 50's and 60's more closely resemble the wants and needs of the people of this nation.

Why always think of war symbols? That's pretty sad.

... and you didn't.

Nobody's "funding the opposition" ... according to you, there isn't one anyway.

Time to move on...

I see you are unable to achieve critical thought.

I find it amazing also that it appears as if you need a symbol or an idol to rally around. Isn't pissed off people enough for you?

Yes, let's move on.

by the way, timewarner thanks you for the free promotion.

Anonymous, regardless of whatever symbol they use (mask) had a message, which was commented further until YOU got caught up with some movie industry's image.

Your post probably did more to call attention to Time Warner.

and it's bad now for me to point out the irony of a group whose whole mission is to fight corporate control by using a corporate created icon?

guy fawkes was around a long time before V.

I would be less amused if they chose to create a mask of their own instead of using one that people have to buy. Which Results in a corporation, a media corporation at that, making more money off of their message.

Yeah, that's really bad of me to be pointing that out.

Yeah, it really is awful of me pointing out that people who buying the mask and who are protesting are also giving money to a media corporation that has been against the very message that Anonymous promotes.

Bad bad little ol'me.

:eyes:

May it bring all the changes we need, since our 'change' president won't. I'll do my part to spread that excellent clip.

Don't be suprised at all, friends, when the government/corporate media begins to connect the 99 percent movement with Anonymous and their supposed crimes.
Don't fall for it.

-t-

:tinfoilhat:

??? :wtf:

K&R