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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:55 PM
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Occupy DC: US Army attacks Vets - Historical footage
 
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Posted on YouTube: November 30, 2011
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Posted on DU: November 30, 2011
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:10 PM
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1. Ah, the good old days
I never learned about the Bonus Army in public school. Had to find out about it in my own readings of history.

Wonder if OWS will suffer the same fate -- on the ground, obviously. In history? Who can say?

-- Mal
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:39 PM
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3. not taught to me in school either
It's disgusting that the military was used to silence their own. nt
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:28 PM
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2. This appears to be a pattern of how US veterans are treated, use them, lie to them
trample on them. They have experience now in fighting wars, the mic would never want them to join together to fight against them, better off homeless than banding together.
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:54 PM
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4. Not just US veterans, all veterans...
TOMMY
by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)



I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!



-- Mal
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:15 PM
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5. Heroes until no longer needed.
Such hypocrisy when it comes to the military. We love them when they're fighting and dismiss them when they're done.

Thank you for this!

backtoblue
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:09 PM
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6. I had only heard hints about this
never heard the full story, thanks for this. Its a shame that, when it comes to Veterans, they are still mistreated by State and the Federal governments. It took Vietnam veterans a long time before they were given benefits, and things like Agent Orange was condsidered part of the problem.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:13 PM
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7. here is some additional info
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:59 PM
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:42 AM
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9. Veterans are only useful to regimes when they shut up and sit down.
Veterans are not 'useful' when they speak up for either their rights or what is due to them.

Got Agent Orange? Not my problem, uncle sez.

Got your balls blown off? Not my problem, uncle sez.

Hooked on prescription meds? Not my problem, uncle sez.

Lost your home to foreclosure while in the sandbox? Not my problem, uncle sez.

I will give uncle some credit for at least looking at PTSD and TBI injuries. But I predict PTSD and TBI will be shoved into the same hidy-hole as Agent Orange.

Empire uber alles

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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:12 PM
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10. I work in
the "healthcare" business and out of every veteran's death certificate I have seen, not once has Agent Orange been listed as the cause of death, even though it had been verified that they were exposed to it and had effects.


Here's a link to a case where a widow sued to have Agent Orange listed as her husband's cause of death. http://www.va.gov/vetapp05/files5/0529676.txt
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:50 PM
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12. I hope you're using satire on that last statement darling.
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anon-y-moose Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:00 PM
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13. the word is sarcasm....
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 05:03 PM
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14. Glad to hear it!
Misunderstanding, thanks!
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anon-y-moose Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 09:27 PM
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15. who made you row captain....
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