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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:59 PM
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Hardball: Attacking Hillary's corporate support
 
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Air America's Marc Green & Ed Shultz questioning Hillary's support by Murdoch et al

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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:02 PM
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1. Matthews is such a jerk. Hates Hillary because she
would beat any repuke. He is in place to beat her down. How much do you think he gets from RNC? Big bucks.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:53 PM
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2. Uh- I'd like to know why she took money from Murdoch - Fox News -Air America
asking too. True, Tweety is always looking for something to criticize her on, but I'm not voting for her because of her corporate lobbysit contributions and Murdoch, the vast right wing conspiracy- how could she?

In this case the friend of my friend is my enemy, and in my mind leaves big questions around her.

Unfortunately Democratic Excecutive Committees are making rules that all caucus members must vote the same, and their candidate is Hillary.

I think if they stick with that, democrats are going to lose the 2008 election. I really do.
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datavg Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:37 AM
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8. Well, They're Gonna...
...stick with her and yeah, she's likely to be smashed in the South. Edwards is a better Democrat but wouldn't be any better of a candidate. They'd smash him, too...especially in the large suburbs of the big growth cities. I can't see him winning Plano, Texas and Alpharetta, Georgia. Thornton, Colorado? Fifty-fifty. Leesburg, Virginia? Maybe. Just maybe.

What we needed was Gore but now it's too late. Iowa is less than sixty days away.

I can't believe it but I think the 'Pubs are gonna win again. Hillary would never win five southern states. No way.

When you combine that with the disappointment of Pelosi, I wonder if the party isn't dead.
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:24 PM
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11. Always looking for a way to criticize a Democrat and gush over McCain.
What a fucking idiot.

It looks like the Democrats WANT to lose this election, I'm telling you. Having Hillary as a nominee is going to make it difficult to win, since the public have such hatred and distrust for her.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:46 PM
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3. Hillary will lose if she is our candidate.
Of our candidates, she will be the easiest for a Republican to beat. That is why the media likes her. That is why that uber-Republican Wolf Blitzer gave her such a break in Thursday's debate. Check out the Rasmussen polls. They poll every week, and Edwards is far ahead of any of the other candidates including and especially including Hillary when pitted against the Republican candidates. Hillary has too many "negatives." It may be unfair, but many, many people think she is a terrible person. The stupid stories about the Clintons being criminals, etc. are actually believed. Hillary has been successfully swiftboated for years, and I don't think she can turn the lies around in time to win the 2008 election.

Karl Rove just published an op-ed on how to beat Hillary. It is right on. She is brittle, and she will break. I just hope she breaks before January so that she does not by hook or by crook land our nomination. That would mean disaster for our country. Hillary will lose in 2008 if she is our nominee. You read it here. I'm absolutely certain on this. We have better candidates -- Edwards being the best.

If you do not agree with me, then tell me how you believe that Hillary can overcome her negatives? How is she going to get elected with so many Republicans believing she is a threat to America? What is the strategy for that? Please tell me. If you come up with something good, I just might be persuaded to shut up about what a bad candidate Hillary is. How does Hillary gain the confidence of the people who hate her? How does she at least avoid bringing out the Hillary-hater vote?

And, what is more, how can Hillary effectively serve as president with so many people thinking that she is a criminal and worse (even though you and I know that none of those rumors are true)? I'm not flaming. I really want to know what strategy you would suggest for such a controversial candidacy. She can't win or govern with so many people absolutely opposed to her.
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jjr5 Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:02 PM
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4. I totally agree!
Unless you want a continuation of the Bush legacy in this country, do not vote for Hilary in the primary elections. She is too divisive. I mean, I'm an ardent democrat, and even I don't want to vote for her! That's baaaad news, because a lot of people may feel that way as well. She reminds me too much of the republicans in power, only that she is called a democrat and they are called republicans. She actually reminds me a lot of Rudy Gulliani. They both stand for the same things and do the same things.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:22 PM
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5. bill moyers
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 11:23 PM by whirlygigspin
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:17 AM
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7. She reminds me of *, but welcome to DU, jr5! What took you so
long to get here?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:42 PM
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9. Have you considered that the republiks don't want to win the next Presidential?
The way things are going, have gone, and will likely proceed, the next President will only get one term.

Barring some kind of miraculous unity in the legislature (even if we continue to control both houses), the next four years will be one crisis after another after another. So, could it be that the stage is being set for the next "Republik Savior" to ride in and fix America in 2012?
:shrug:


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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:18 PM
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10. Greyhound has a damn good point
The next president is screwed. There is such a mess made by the boy king that whoever is the next president will be spending their time cleaning up and getting us out of Iraq (which isn't easy). Lot's of rocks and hard places ahead.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:15 AM
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6. Ed Schultz on Cliton: It's mud slinging if ... (you don't agree with me)
Watch this vid!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:59 AM
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12. Keep in mind that Murdoch's Fox News is rival of MSNBC
and they haven't exactly been getting along as of late.

:headbang:
rocknation
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:32 AM
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13. Breaking Down Hillary's Money
Check this out (published in conjunction with The Nation):

http://www.realnews.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=189
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