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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:11 AM
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Naomi Wolf radio interview on "The End of America"
 
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This message needs to be repeated and repeated until people start to get it.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:26 AM
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1. the 10 ten steps are already here
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 10:47 AM by alyce douglas
sadly, we will be the only ones to change it.


She needs her message to be publicized widely.
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jph wacheski Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:11 PM
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2. If we don't grab the wheel and change direction we will get where we are going,. .
Wow ! She sums it up very well,. its not over but it is very close, people can still stop the rise of American FASCISM, however we need to take action! The way she explains, using historical contexts, that the situation in America is mirrored in other rises of despots and tyrannic killers is frightening to be sure however we must get more people to face this reality.

Here is the link they talk about http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/

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Tom Sullivan Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:07 PM
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3. And no Democrat or Republican will lead the way...
Because they are the Fascists. Not even Dennis or Ron will bring this subject up.
If you are counting on the American people, forget it. From us fascists comes our fascist government.
Fascism is the only game on Planet Earth.
It has already won.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:26 PM
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4. That's the spirit!
Fascists have been beaten before. . . and some even in their own countries.

But my own feeling is that the US needs more education before it can beat back this tide. Things are going to have to get much worse before they get better.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:37 PM
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6. I think you may have nailed it when you mention 'education'. When we hear
the word 'fascism' we knee-jerk react that it's an absurd possibility. After all, we're AMERICA - we condemn fascism! I think at first glance people believe the charge is over the top.

But with EDUCATION like Naomi Wolf provides, it becomes more clear just WHAT fascism is, and HOW a country gets to that place.

I was of the knee-jerk that's ridiculous school of thought until I heard her present her work. I would love to have her video of her UW talk be shown to every citizen in the country.

I'd also like to have sex with George Clooney, so I don't have high hopes of achieving either fantasy... But there ARE people listening and hopefully this will be accepted more and more as the word spreads....


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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:29 PM
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5. Naomi Wolf has been a BIG influence on how I view what's going on in our country
now. Thanks for posting this!
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:09 PM
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7. She was wrong about the identity of the next de facto figurehead leader who will carry on
the fascist march.

She said "Giuliani".
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:16 PM
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9. Ok, I'll bite
who do you think it is?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:21 PM
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17. Does it matter who the leader is?
Fascist dictators don't rise up in a vacuum. There's tremendously powerful interests at work creating this situation. If one leader loses it and gets kicked off the hill, another takes his place.

So who knows who our next dictator will be. Giuliani? Romney? Hillary? Maybe Bush will decide he wants to keep his job. Or maybe some other asshole will manage to get the top spot.

All I know is that the end result will be the same - tyranny.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:05 AM
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21. it will not be tyranny, unless we step up to the plate.
or do we have to wait until things get worse??
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sss1977 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:13 PM
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8. Agreed, this message can't be repeated enough
This videotaped radio interview pairs really well with http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2311412&mesg_id=2311412">my recent photo summary of the book. Thank you for posting it.

On a side note, I wish I still lived in Belltown! I used to live just a couple blocks from the KEXP studio. Way to go KEXP on broadcasting her message!
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:43 PM
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10. Just went and rec'd it. Great job.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:26 PM
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11. She left out the biggest one of all
The staged fire of the Reichstag--the pretext used to invade Poland and spark World War II.


What modern parallel do we have? Hmmm.





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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:54 PM
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13. No she didn't, it's step 1: Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:00 PM
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14. I stand corrected
though I don't believe she referred to it specifically in this particular interview.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:43 PM
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15. Agreed, but that might have taken her too close to MIHOP/LIHOP
While it's pretty clear that Bush & co have overhyped the enemy on purpose after the fact (for what reason?).....

It would get divisive and dilute her message to suggest that Bush & co did the deed. Best not to go there.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:08 PM
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16. For Wolf to ignore LIHOP or MIHOP would make her look idiotic --- it's so evident ---
And the PS Anthrax attack .... if you work it backwards .... even more evident!

The Anthrax could only have been an "inside job" ---
an attempt to cover up 9/11 ---



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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:50 PM
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12. The most important video you will ever watch. nt
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:34 PM
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18. Very good interview.
I've also watched the video of her talk at the University of Washington, and have heard her on several other talk radio shows.

This stuff has to be spread far and wide so we can STOP what is going on in this country.

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woundedkarma Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 03:45 AM
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19. this is the most important message in America
I knew this was happening. I felt it, I'm sure many of the rest of you have too. I hadn't had such a clear view of it until I saw this and another video of Naomi speak.

I knew that Bush was trying to destroy America but I didn't realise he was following a textbook method of destroying a democracy. By drawing parallels between our country and previous destructions she expresses the problem in a way few can resist I think.

I'm very curious about the book now, hopefully I'll get a chance to read it.

Now, if only the American media would pay attention as it's the only way to get stuff out.

At the very least, I wish bloggers everywhere would harp this for months. Maybe then a growth in realization and an understanding of the danger we are in RIGHT THIS MOMENT might occur.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:03 AM
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20. Kicked - only one more hour to get this Rec'd, so please
let people know how important it is to see this
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:09 AM
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22. kick
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:50 AM
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23. this is a very important video for all to see
I hope that her voice is heard by many for a long time. We have to rise up, and speak out.

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