Ford knew of CIA coverup in Kennedy Assasination

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Ford claims CIA covered up Kennedy assassination
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Pres._Fords_final_words_fuel_JFK_1121.html
According to the publisher of a new book, who appeared on Fox News Wednesday morning, the last living words of former President Gerald Ford fingered the CIA in the orchestration a cover-up of Kennedy's assassination.

Ford, who died late last year, was the longest surviving member of the Warren Commission, which investigated Kennedy's assassination. The new book, "A Presidential Legacy and the Warren Commission," was written by Ford before his death, its publisher claims.

"This book, actually authored by Gerald Ford, finally proves once and for all that the CIA, our government, did destroy documents and cover-up many facts that day in Dallas," publisher Tim Miller told Fox & Friends Wednesday morning.

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In the book, Ford argues that the CIA destroyed information about the assassination, but he "contends with interesting specificity that Oswald was the only shooter," Miller says.

"There was a conspiracy to kill John F. Kennedy," says Tim Miller, CEO of FlatSigned.com, in the release. "There is no doubt that President Gerald Ford knew more about the JFK death. There is no doubt President Clinton knows more. Has he or any other US President since November 22, 1963 ever swore under oath that they know no more?"

more -

Ford a conspiracy theorist and on the Warren Commission who would have thought

...by CIA NOC E Howard Hunt.

I STILL don't consider it ancient history - I hope that the NEXT Dem admin & congress REOPENS BOTH Kennedy assassinations. WE NEED The TRUTH so that we can prevent history from being repeated!

he was OUR President and we deserve to know the truth about what happened to him!!

I also heard a rumor (speaking of Hunt), that part of the reason for Watergate was to keep the truth about JFK hidden. If the democrats had been elected they would have reopened an investigation regarding the assassination.......

Knew about some of the truth of the Kennedy assasination and that the Dems were going to use it as their october surprise, and thus steal teh election away from Nixon.

So he wanted the burglars to go into the Demcoratic headquarters and see if they could find anything out.

But all that happened was that the burglars got caught.

...that Nixon talked about on the tapes was actually the Kennedy assassination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHZl91gN63g

E Hunt and now Ford and I think Bush said his peace at Ford's funeral
He still can't deal with the guilt of it all

Bush tears up easily saw him on Larry King Live and looked at his daughter
saying Hopefully we have a forgiving God

and she reassured him that he was

One must be sincere
I don't see that out of the Bush family

http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2005/nr05-29.html

"Under the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) determined that certain records should be released incrementally on specific years. The CIA has chosen to re-review and process all records the Assassination Records Review Board voted to open through 2010. As a result, over 4000 documents that previously were partially redacted are now released in full. An equal number are released in part with fewer redactions than in previous versions. Newly released information ranges from one word to a paragraph or more per document."

That is, unless * and friends decide to further redact what's already out there, waiting.

Remember, Operation Northwoods was uncovered by James Bamford in his book Body of Secrets via someone's JFK Freedom of Information Act request.

And read this from Cigar Afficionado magazine, JFK and Castro: The Secret Quest For Accommodation
Recently Declassified U.S. government Documents Reveal That, at the Height of the Cold War, John F. Kennedy and Fidel Castro Were Exploring Ways To Normalize U.S.-Cuba Relations
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Archives/CA_Show_Article/0,2322,320,00.html

"...the documents reveal the escalating efforts toward negotiations in 1963 that, if successful, might have changed the ensuing decades of perpetual hostility between Washington and Havana"

apparently this clashes with the documentation released by the National Archives mentioned in Thom Hartmann's book Ultimate Sacrifice that posits a JFK plan to assassinate Castro scheduled for Dec 1963. Or rogue elements within the CIA were doing what they wanted no matter WHO was sitting in the Oval Office. Sound familiar ?

As Oliver Stone said, it's like leavin a Mercedes on the highway over night ---

something like that ---

U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba
Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba
by By David Ruppe
New York, May 1, 2001

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

Pages 3 and 4. From a JFK FOIA request, slipped into the mix.

"treasures" are missing!!!

he was the one who changed the position of the bullet in Kennedy's back which enabled the magic bullet theory.

I don't doubt that the CIA covered it up but if they did, Ford allowed them to do it!!

H. W. Bush was in Dallas that day and working for the CIA. Kennedy is on record as wanting to break the CIA up into a thousand pieces. Plus Kennedy had already signed a directive that would have done away with the Federal Reserve Bank. That directive, obviously has never been implimented.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm

didn't know about the actual "directive" re Fed ---

Lots of the plotters were in Dealey Plaza ---
Poppy Bush -- evidently the nickname suggests involvement with drug trade
Nixon
Landsdale

Evidently, people in DC knew immediately who had set this up and who was involved --- the names came tumbling out --- they knew.

The problem has been a media cover up, as well --

Why would President Clinton know anything about this? Last I knew he was a bit young in '63 to be held accountable for this like everything else he is accused of.

so its not just the Republicans that knew
look at the same people involved now as was in those days
Bush Rumsfeld Cheney Baker the same guys over and over again

I think Ford was covering his butt personally
He knew after they died the truth may come out and hopefully he wouldn't look too bad
The Book is a tortured souls penance before death

I love how he knew the collective conscious had been effected by Kennedy's death

Who would ever think Ford would end up being a Conspiracy Theorist and he headed the Warren Commission and that he would have to get a book out after his death

Amazing

A Farewell to Justice
Jim Garrison, JFK's Assassination, and the Case That Should Have Changed History
by Joan Mellen

http://www.joanmellen.net/

"Garrison began by exposing the contradictions in the Warren Report, which concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald was an unstable pro-Castro Marxist who acted alone in killing President Kennedy. A FAREWELL TO JUSTICE reveals that Oswald was no Marxist and was in fact working with both the FBI and the CIA, as well as with U.S. Customs, and that the attempts to sabotage Garrison’s investigation reached the highest levels of the U.S. government.

Garrison interviewed various individuals involved in the assassination, ranging from Clay Shaw and CIA contract employee David Ferrie to a Marine cohort of Oswald named Kerry Thornley, who was also a Defense Intelligence asset. Garrison’s suspects included CIA-sponsored soldiers of fortune enlisted in assassination attempts against Fidel Castro, an anti-Castro Cuban asset, and a young runner for the conspirators, who speaks openly here for the first time.

Building upon Garrison’s effort, Mellen uncovers decisive new evidence and clearly establishes the intelligence agencies’ roles in both a president’s assassination and its cover-up, set in motion well before the actual events of November 22, 1963. This book will become a landmark. As Mellen explains in the Preface, on the 40th Anniversary of President Kennedy's death in 2003, a Gallup Poll verified that twice as many people believed that the CIA was responsible for the assassination as believed that Oswald, a man without a motive, acted alone."

Mae Brussell also exposed the CIA's Operation Paperclip connections to JFK's assassination,

The Nazi Connection to the John F. Kennedy Assassination
Evidence of link between Nazis still in operation after World War II to the still unsolved murder of John F. Kennedy
by Mae Brussell
(from the short-lived Larry Flynt publication The Rebel, January 1984)

http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Nazi%20Connection%20to%20JFK%20Assass.html

"Although De Mohrenschildt and his wife Jeanne testified at length before the Warren Commission, only attorney Albert Jenner and Pentagon historian Alfred Goldberg attended. One of Jenner's clients was General Dynamics, maker of the F-lll fighter that would achieve fame in Vietnam. The chief of security for General Dynamics in Dallas, Max Clark, was another De Mohrenschildt associate donating money to help Marina while George got Lee his next job in Dallas. He found one at the graphics house of Jagger-Chiles-Stovall, which held classified military contracts.

Jeanne de Mohrenschildt was originally brought to the U.S. by a family member employed by the Howard Hughes organization. In 1977 George was found fatally shot, allegedly a suicide, on the day a House Select Committee investigator came by looking for him. Jeanne consented to a press interview. She said George had been a nazi spy.

The placement de Mohrenschildt got for Oswald allowed him to visit the Sol Bloom agency at least 40 times. It was this agency that later decided the motorcade route for Kennedy's fatal visit. Ruth Paine, whom Oswald met via George, had called Roy Truly and procured work for Oswald at the Texas School Book Depository. If Maydell and the Gehlen agents were active in the U.S. they knew all the right moves to secure their patsy."

...all the White Russian connections to Oswald that Brussell discovered turned out to have Operation Paperclip connections, and they all gave bad character references to Oswald to the Warren Commission. This is why Mae got curious and started investigating. She also indexed the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission Report. Pretty good work for a single curious individual ! One tenacious lady.
Too bad our current crop of 'journalists' are functional illiterates.

He understood what was happening, though he had no out --

Evidently, his family was being threatened -- a sister and brother ---

He did try to get info out --- pleading with Earl Warren to take him to DC where he could be safe to talk --- trying to give info to the press via Kilgallen --- in the end, he died as he predicted . . . cancer -- presumably injected with cancer cells.

A top crime is murder, and political assassination must be even worse, as far as surviving to be a cold case,. Hay thats a great movie script,. 'the kennedy cold case'. TV has prepared america for it! Could be hard nose fact accurate. Michael Moore shoot me 300k and I'll spend a year on it! where are the progressive arts funding channels,. I need a benefactor.

Gary Powers thought Oswald was also used to undermine IKE and his anti-MIC plans for peace and that they brought down his U-2 using Oswald in order to destroy IKE's Paris Peace Summit ---

PEACE isn't on the MIC's agenda ---
they want more weapons, more war, more nukes ---
and now they have the guys in the WH who give it to them ---

IKE WAS THE FIRST CONSPIRACY THEORIST --

Ford is a liar and pretender from first to last ---
Ford covered up the truth of the neck/shoulder wound to help Arlen Specter sell the "Magic Bullet" --
Ford pardoned Nixon ---

seemingly by pre-agreement via Haig ---

Since then we have seen those who have colluded in the coup rise to power --

The Sabotaging of the American Presidency" -- the U-2 debacle
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/SAP.html

"Three or four moles in the Pentagon, doing the bidding of their masters, flashed coded signals across the world to send out a lone U-2 plane on one of the longest and most impossible missions ever attempted by a U-2 -- a 3,900-mile journey from Peshawar, Pakistan across the Soviet Union to Bodo, on the northern tip of Norway. These men's actions neatly bypassed the entire ultra-secret system and launched a plane that had been rigged to come down in the heart of the USSR on one of its most important holidays, May Day. Thus were destroyed the summit conference and Eisenhower's Crusade for Peace.

New information, including recently obtained Congressional testimony, has come to light that uncovers details of this monstrous scheme."...

Then, regarding Dulle's testimony on the downing of the U2, we have this,


"This ordeal with the Senate Committee may have been thrust upon him by those who had the power to send out the U-2 flight without the knowledge of the proper authorities. As an indication of Mr. Dulles' confusion before the Committee, when Fulbright asked him another question, Dulles replied: "Yes, which lie . . .," then quickly corrected his goof by saying: "Which page . . . ?" He knew he had been telling lies all day long."

and JFK ---

Dulles, included in this betrayal ---

As I recall what he says, Ike would outline what he wanted done and they'd just ignore it ---
and do what they wanted done.

In the case of the U-2/Gary Powers . . .
IKE had given directions that the U-2 NOT be flown for months before the Paris peace talks.
Powers said that his flight was suspicious re what was in the plane that wasn't supposed to be --- all kinds of ID, etc --- and what wasn't in the plane that was suppoded to be --- a death capsule, for one, I think.

Presumably, Oswald was able to give the Russians the info they needed to bring it down ---
That's what Gary Powers thought ---

So . . . in this inner world . . . the CIA is corrupted -- and Oswald as a CIA asset is being used by the corrupters. Whether he ever understands this or not, I haven't seen any speculation on. Oswald does seem to be the author of the telex/telegram to the FBI warning of an attack on JFK.

but the paper layer that goes on top of that - the scene - is missing. Some specific faces and relationship lines haven't been glued on yet. But they will.

I am really behind in following this - I knew nothing about the work of the Mae woman.

Question for you or anyone. After seeing all the films that were on the History Chanel during the 2003 anniversary, I became convinced that the French sharpshooters were the physical killers. Does anyone know their history as far as Nazi collaboration or their sympathies/history?

Supposedly . . . let's hope that Americans taped much of it ---

Mae Brussel is fabulous --- and there's a lot of her stuff on the internet ---
IMO --- and I haven't read ALL of her stuff -- she is the one who most immediately understands the fascist agenda --- connections to old Nazis . . .

If you haven't read Barr McClellan's book --- it's right there, I think, as full truth --
your library probably has it --- It's Power, Blood, Money --- How LBJ killed JFK --

That's NOT to suggest that there wasn't a wide circle of interested allies ---
from CIA to establishment --- oil industry, etal ---
Hoover, of course ---

And I think there was an E. Howard Hunt/author's fictional fantasy at play in having MOST of the backers in Dealey Plaza that day --- kinda Agatha Christie "Murder On The Orient Express" where everyone kills the victim.

If you haven't seen the Madelaine Brown interview, I think it would be worth your while . ..
it's on YouTube --- she was LBJ's mistress ---

If you're interested in the video and can't find it, PM me an I'll look for it for you ---

Quite a story!!!

At any rate . .. according to McClellan . . . it's MALCOLM WALLACE in the Texas School Deposition setting up the "sniper's nest" --- his fingerprint on one of the boxes ---!!!

However, he may then have moved on behind the picket fence ---
There are a number of people suspected --- from Officer Tippet --
to others ---

And according to Madelaine Brown . . . Malcolm Wallace was LBJ hired hand for murder and an unbelievably accurate shot --

You have to read something of LBJ's past life ---
a lot of murders, there ---

French hit men migh be missing or confiscated?

I don't think there's any problem there ---
but I wouldn't expect to see much about anything but the official story right now on A&E or anywhere else.

HOWEVER, the final episodes --- which discussed the meeting at Clint Murchison's house the night before -- and pointed to LBJ -- and many others, with info from Barr McClellan's book and info from Madelaine Brown and others -- and discussed Malcolm Wallace -- was the subject of not only criticism by Ford and oddly enough Carter and others . . . and supposedly was confiscated and will not be seen again.

You can see some of the stuff from the final episodes on YouTube, but I haven't seen precisely these last episodes after one round of airings.

Anyway, that's the story I've heard ---

ALSO:
The Tunnheim Panel Report --- 1992 JFK Assassination Classfied Records Report wherein John Tunnheim, who headed the panel, reports that "OSWALD WAS EMPLOYED BY THE CIA WORKING ON HIGH LEVEL ASSIGNMENTS AND PROBABLY ALSO FOR THE FBI" hasn't been seen on A&E since that first round of airings. They showed it quite frequently on A&E at that time for about four months --- and then gone.

In other words, though much of the truth has long been know, it can't really be brought forward because of the power structure. As someone at Fletcher Prouty's site said of the Oswald info . . .
"there isn't anyone powerful enough to bring the information forward."

And they show up in Houma. BTW, Nov 22nd was DeGaulle's B-day.

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/Marsh/Jfk-conspiracy/TORBITT.TXT

this one may be better --- sorry, it's late and don't have time to actually scan them ---
http://www.newsmakingnews.com/torbitt.htm

His last words said much
CIA = Poppy Bush

Oswald= connection with Poppy

Remember Ford had a assasination attempt as well as Reagan

Maybe these were attempts to give them a hint to keep quiet
and Ford didn't like it

I have to commend Ford at least he tried to tell the truth at the end

Perhaps I have to study it all more - I'm only skirting on the basics of this info.

obviously he's lying --- and of course he knew it --- !!

Ford aided and abetted the assassination cover-up ---

He also mightily profited --- VP and Pres --- unelected!!!

so I'm more than suspicious about his prior knowledge ---

He would have run as the incumbent in 84 and again in 88.

I also believe if Al Gore would have been sworn in on 1-20-01 he would have died on 9-11-01 and we would have been under President Lieberman!

My recollection (without refreshing my memory) is that a messed-up young woman named "Squeaky" Fromme, a Charles Manson groupie, tried to shoot him with a .45 auto pistol but didn't have a round in the chamber & had no idea of how to use the gun. Sounds like she was set up to make an ineffectual attempt.

Assassination Attempts
A6320-24A. Activity following the attempt on President Ford's life by Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, in Sacramento, California. September 5, 1975. Image size: 213K

A6521-22A. President Ford winces at the sound of the gun fired by Sara Jane Moore during the assassination attempt in San Francisco, California. September 22, 1975. Image size: 110K

http://www.ford.utexas.edu/avproj/assassin.htm

From Wikipedia:

" school student, Women's Army Corps recruit, and accountant, Moore had five husbands before she turned to revolutionary politics at the age of 45.<2><4>

Moore's friends said she was obsessed with Patty Hearst.<5> After Hearst was kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation Army, her father Randolph Hearst created the organization People in Need (P.I.N.) to feed the poor, in order to answer S.L.A. claims that the elder Hearst was "committing 'crimes' against 'the people.'"<5> Moore was a bookkeeper for P.I.N. and an FBI informant<2><6><5> when she attempted to assassinate Ford.

Moore had been evaluated by the Secret Service earlier in 1975, but they had decided she presented no danger to the President.<7> She had been picked up by police on an illegal handgun charge the day before the Ford incident but was released. Police kept the .44 pistol and 113 rounds of ammunition.

Moore was 40 feet away from the President<8> when she fired a single shot at him.<3> Moore missed Ford the first time because the gun she was using, the .38 revolver, was not the gun she had been practicing with and was confiscated by the San Francisco police the day before. Moore bought the .38 the same morning she went after Ford, but the sight was off by six inches. FBI investigators measured where the bullet hit the cement column from where she was standing. Agent Richard Vitamanti, lead investigator, said had Moore been using her own gun, history would have been different.<9> The bullet missed the President because bystander Oliver Sipple grabbed Moore's arm and then pulled her to the ground, using his hand to keep the gun from firing a second time.<10><11> Sipple said at the time: "I saw pointed out there and I grabbed for it. <...> I lunged and grabbed the woman's arm and the gun went off."<12> The single shot which Moore did manage to fire from her .38-caliber revolver ricocheted off the entrance to the hotel<13> and slightly injured a bystander.<6>

Moore pleaded guilty<14> to attempted assassination and was sentenced to life in prison<15><16>. She is currently serving at the federal women’s prison in Dublin, California.<8><17>

In an interview in 2004, former President Ford described Moore as "off her mind" and said that he continued making public appearances, even after two attempts on his life within such a short time, because "a president has to be aggressive, has to meet the people."<18>"

The Chas Manson family did a lot to begin a series of violent episodes in America ---
plus ... did they seem somewhat "hippie-like" . . . ???
And then the female linked to him firing at Ford ---

And Moore ---

Some have suggested that these were "Manchurian Candidates" standing by ---
I don't have a lot of trouble believing that ---

Bremer, Chapman, Sirhan -- all look like it ---

Certainly James Earl Ray was innocent and set up ---

Too much of all of this is unbelievable for the rest of it to be legit ---

Unfortunately, I don't have time now to explore any other connections re these females ---
one with 5 husbands-!!! --- in the sense that I'm sure someone has explored them and reporting somewhere what they found --- or didn't find --- but I am wondering.

Meanwhile, FORD --- UNELECTED as VP and UNELECTED as President --- had Nelson Rockefeller as his VP... ???

Sometimes it seems that having a VP has been very dangerous for presidents --- ????

the one person that Bush and cohorts would have liked to see go bye bye

obviously Ford must have known he was walking a dangerous line

by the Bushes. Barbara needs to not bother her mind, and George needs to not bother his conscience. The only person in the country who was in government that doesn't remember where he was that day. No expense reports. No diaries. No phone records. No reports to higher ups. ????

is part of the collective concious I agree Bush Sr is a mess ...imagine knowing that your time is coming to an end
When you think about it he only has war and destruction on his list of things he did...

Who says the JFK shooting isn't a conspiracy. Still trying to bury it.

Very odd that this Thanksgiving is also the anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. There is little if any mention of it in the major newspapers. As if it is too harsh a reminder of where we have been. And where we are. Past is indeed prologue.

The secrets some have taken to the grave. The secrets some still among us will. The Kennedy assassination in particular.

Added to the conspiracy theories is the recent plane crash that killed John F Kennedy, Jr. Some believe he happened upon something. And may not have even known he had. But was killed anyway. As have, according to the conspiracy theories, many others. Including Dorothy Kilgallen.

There is a rumor that Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis knew and wrote of it and who was behind it and had it sealed in a vault at the Kennedy Library with instructions that it cannot be unsealed until the last of her grandchildren have died. If the rumor is true, most of us will not be here when it is unsealed. And so we will never know. And those who will may not care as passionately as we do. And we do. For many of us who can remember, his death marked the beginning of a transition that took us down a path that led us to where we are now. To the fall of our empire. Which will see the rise of one we do not believe in simply because it is no longer ours. We have indeed lost Camelot.

But history at least will record the truth. Why would she deny us the truth if indeed she knew it? The answer may lie in the plane crash that killed John F. Kennedy, Jr. She feared for the safety of her children. And their children. By the time her grandchildren have died, the men behind the assassination will be dead. As will their children. As will anyone who would have any reason to not want the truth to be revealed.

When she married Onassis, the Secret Service detail accompanied them to the airport believing they were going to Greece on vacation. She dismissed the detail at the airport. And from that day forward she had private security protecting herself and her children. Many believe she feared the Secret Service more than anyone at that point. Because they knew her every move and every move of her children.

How did she know? Some believe Onassis knew and told her after Bobby Kennedy was assassinated out of concern over her safety and the safety of her children. Why did she marry him? He offered her and her children a safe haven. Some believe the death of Alexander Onassis was a warning to her as well as to Onassis. Another plane crash that some believe was also not an accident. Some believe the same with regard to the overdose that took the life of Christina Onassis. Who may have been told by someone who also knew to temper her hatred of Jacqueline Onassis and the marriage she blamed for the downfall and death of her father.

If indeed the plane crash that took the life of John F. Kennedy was sabotage, that explains why the secret is still a secret. Too many want it to remain a secret and are willing to murder to keep it secret.

How can those who do know keep it a secret? They know that dead men tell no tales. Too many others have died in circumstances that leave a question mark as to how they died. Some merely for having become too curious and having asked too many questions. And so those who do know don't want anyone to know they know. Some are very powerful and those involved in the assassinations know they know but their power protects them. But if they were to tell, it no longer would. Perhaps there are many revelations to come. Not just the rumored revelations of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis.

There were probably many reasons why so many wanted Kennedy dead. All most likely used by whoever made it happen. To divert attention. One need only look at the various theories to realize how well it worked.

One thing never really looked at was the possible connection between the assassination of John F Kennedy and the assassination of his brother. Although all the conspiracy theories do connect them. But was the threat of Bobby Kennedy merely his being in a position to possibly happen upon the truth if he became president? Or did he possibly happen upon the truth and possibly didn't even know he had? The way John F. Kennedy, Jr. may have.

One of the things we should give thanks for this Thanksgiving is the memory of the Kennedys. They still remind us of how precious our freedom is. And how easily it is taken away. With a single bullet. With a single pen.

the power structure has remained in the hands of those intent on covering up the coup on JFK ---

And those who profitied by it rose to power and are still profiting from it ---
oil industry, Bush family, Ford, Reagan, LBJ, Nixon --
Certain privatized elements of the CIA ---

JFK was calling off war --- and the Cold War --- and moving toward PEACE ---
that's dangerous for the MIIC ---

Ike, of course, was our first "conspiracy theorist" --- our first "tin foil hatter" ---
as he warned and predicted of an attempt to keep the Military Industrial Intelligence Complex going.

Btw, Ike wrote in/included "intelligence" twice --- and twice it was removed from the speech.