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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 03:26 PM
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FDL's Jane Hamsher on Washington Journal 11-23-07- part 1/7
 
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Jane Hamsher, founder of firedoglake.com on C-Span's Washington journal, Nov 23, 2007.
Part 1 of 7

http://www.firedoglake.com/

All of the 7 parts are listed here.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W8ERXx_n9LQ

She did a very good job. I missed it, and I was glad to see the video posted.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 03:33 PM
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1. Don't miss this segment where she puts a right winger in his place
in a very lovely way. :applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KKpEvOu-YI
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:31 PM
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2. Bushdog Democrats....I love it.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 04:44 PM
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3. Jane did a great job-bu$hdogs to describe Shumer, Feinstein, Emmanuel is GREAT!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 05:43 PM
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4. Ooo...
I didn't realize Jane was so cute. :)

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 06:14 PM
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5. She looks very lovely for what she has been through
She just went through another setback with cancer not long ago. I think she's amazing how calm and cool she was with the call-ins.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:12 PM
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19. Yes.
I was aware of the cancer and she does look very good for what she has been through.

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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:48 PM
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38. Did you realize she produced Natural Born Killers? nt
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 06:22 PM
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6. Sorry, she sounds like an idiot. I'll explain-
A caller asks about Sibel Edmond's case. Jane answers by saying, "Sibel worked for the government and is prohibited from talking about it". The host then asks, "Prohibited from talking about what?". Her response?

"Thats a good question. I don't know".

You don't know? Are you a fucking idiot Jane? You are either lying or stupid Jane.

This pisses me off to no end. Here she is thrown a softball that she could have hit out of the park, and she either avoided answering the question or she really didn't know anything at all about the case. I'm not sure which would be worse.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 06:37 PM
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7. Actually, we don't really know all about it.
I think you are overreacting to what she said. It seemed pretty sensible.

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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:00 PM
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8. Not so much.
Sibel has been quite open about the basic facts. She has been unable to discuss specifics.

In short, she has made it clear that high ranking members of the Republican party and defense establishment have been bribed by both the Turkish lobby and the Israeli lobby. I could go on and on about what I know about her case, and I'm just a guy on the Internet on a Saturday night.

Jane has sources and access that I can only dream about, and therefore has no excuse.

If you don't know at least what I just told you about her case, I would suggest doing a Google and reading a bit about it. There are plenty of interviews of Sibel floating around that you could easily find that would help clarify some of this for you. :)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:07 PM
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9. Was she asked what Sibel Edmunds knew or couldn't talk about?
That is the problem, we don't know that. We can read up, as I have, and be fairly knowledgeable....but that was a good way to answer it with all the nutjobs phoning in.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:19 PM
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10. I think your remarks are really rude.
I really do. She handled the interview very well.

I don't like what you said.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:36 PM
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11. Go along to get along then?
Keeping the powder dry perhaps?

Nah, when one of our own either chokes or obfuscates when asked a question whose answer would appall the most regressive right-winger, we should all just cheer them on as if nothing happened.

Facts matter.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:45 PM
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12. You really are missing the point.
I am so tired of people saying rude things here and then trying to put the elsewhere.

Bye.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:47 PM
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13. It was nice speaking rationally with you!
...
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:09 PM
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33. You're just coming off as a total asshole.
You act like she went on C-Span to talk about Sibel Edmonds. Well guess what, she wasn't. She also has not put herself out there as an expert on the subject.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 09:44 PM
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16. I agree, mad. absolutely true
and she is cute, on top of smart, well versed, cool and more.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:01 PM
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18. Thanks, she did great.
It takes guts for bloggers to go on there and be subjected to the idiot callers anyway.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 09:11 AM
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25. Shame. I expect more from you.
If this is the same username that you post on the Malloy forum with, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Nowhere did I say she wasnt cute, cool, or smart.

I said she sounded like an idiot for not being able to answer a softball question.

This may be the biggest failing of DU. The inability of posters to engage in critical discourse when it involves one of our own.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:36 AM
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27. what is a malloy forum?
malloy - is that some kind of high temp alloy that retains its shape after deformation?

You must have me confused with someone else.
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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 10:55 AM
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28. I disagree with you that she
sounded like an idiot. She just didn't get drawn into discussing Sibel Edmonds at the time. What she did say was that Sibel Edmonds worked for the government and she knows something but has been forbidden to talk about it. She also said that Edmonds is willing to break her silence if anyone in MSM is willing to air an interview with her. That's a terrific teaser, daring the MSM to pick up on the story. In MSM style it would be: "WHO is Sibel Edmonds and WHAT does she know? Tune in to see the EXCLUSIVE interview of the woman who is breaking her silence to expose all the dirty secrets of the Bush administration" etc. That is, if the MSM weren't such cowards.

Jane was terrific...she stated her position without saying 'wingnuts' or 'repukelicans' once. Loved the way she handled that crazy wingnut caller!
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anniebelle Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 06:34 AM
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23. When you don't know all the facts, sometimes it's best to STFU.
I think she handled it appropriately. It is indeed a very long and tedious story for someone out there listening who doesn't know Sibel Edmonds or for that matter, ever heard of her.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 07:19 AM
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24. I gotta be honest---
I don't know everything about the Sibel story myself so I might defer on a question like that.

Here's the thing uhhhh emperor72. Not everyone is blessed with your superior knowledge and smarts.

Oh we try to be as smart as you but us idiots find it hard to be on the level of an emperor.

Please forgive us Lord Emperor.

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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 09:15 AM
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26. Great Trumad, then dont go on CSPAN.
However, since Jane is on CAPAN, it might be a good idea to know about such things. After all, she is very smart and knowledgeable, so why did she refuse to answer?

Oh, and way to go with the snide remarks. You really got me there. Christ, this is like a schoolyard taunt.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:43 PM
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32. Oh great one---with superior knowledge of everything
guide us so we can be more like you.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:57 PM
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35. Ill do my best. Here you go-
Google.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 07:07 PM
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37. Maybe she should have just said that. "Google"...
Or perhaps the issue to way too complicated for a 20 second sound byte? Nah, that couldn't be it, she's just hiding the truth, AND sounding like an idiot!

.001% of Americans have heard of Sibel Edmonds, and those of us who have heard of her aren't entirely sure what exactly the details are. The fact that you chose to respond with "Google" isn't exactly a seal of confidence about the facts of the case.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:11 PM
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34. She didn't go on Cspan proclaiming to be an expert on Sibel Edmonds.
You start out calling her an idiot, and then whine about "snide remarks"?

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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 04:02 PM
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36. Ok- "Sorry, she sounds like an idiot. I'll explain-"
Not calling her an idiot now is it?

I still cant imagine why you are giving her a pass for avoiding this question.

Had this been a republican who answered the same way when asked about Sibel's case, this thread would have all of you screaming about what a hack this person was, and how they were a tool of the MSM.

But when one of our own does this, and gets called out?

Not so much.


And again, I dont go after Jane for having a certain username, or a strange blog name. Do I?

But that seems to be ok here, because...? Its cool to engage in mindless cheerleading?
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 07:59 PM
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14. oh to have heard the last question about the name of the blog that Pedro cut off...
he was probably right to do so but it made Jane laugh so...

c'mon Jane- what did he say?!?!?!?

:spray:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 08:36 PM
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15. Which part? I have only heard Part 1.
?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 09:52 PM
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17. Okay, I think that caller was saying the name of her blog...
firedoglake, and I think he got confused and said it wrong. I could not pick up why they were laughing about that.
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:00 PM
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20. He was dissing her...
He asked her why she named the blog FireDogCrotch.

She handled it the only way possible. Laugh at the immaturity.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:14 PM
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21. I listened twice and missed that.
I heard the first syllable. Wow. Those callers must be plants, cause I don't think there are that many stupid people.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:19 PM
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22. She's lovely and handled Mr. Chest-Beater/Knuckle-dragger very elegantly (n/t)
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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:02 AM
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29. She sure did.
That freeper was so typical of the ones we run into on the liberal blogs. Was great she got to demonstrate how a discourse between a sane, rational liberal and a crazed, angry conservative typically goes. She made great points and he, as you said, pounded his chest and threw feces.
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:12 AM
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30. I don't know why
she is so up on Pelosi. She thinks Pelosi is doing a wonderful job. How idiotic!!!
"Impeachment is off the table", Pelosi.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:33 PM
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31. I wonder if the first caller was a DU-er.
great clip, thanks for this.
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