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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:35 AM
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CNN: Gen. Kerr Sets the Record State on Clinton 'Controversy'
 
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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:42 AM
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1. anything to tear her down from MSM..honestly..this gets old
Let's just forget Rudy's using taxpayer money to get laid
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:50 AM
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2. I don' get it
What is he talking about? I missed something obviously.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:58 AM
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4. Here:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:58 AM
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3. Alleged planting of gay soldier question at debate:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_slammed_for_question_from_Clinton_1129.html

Clinton campaign: We didn't plant gay soldier
David Edwards and Nick Juliano
Published: Thursday November 29, 2007

An openly gay retired soldier who quizzed Republican candidates about the military's don't ask don't tell policy was not acting on behalf of Hillary Clinton, despite his role on her campaign's gay-rights steering committee, the campaign said Thursday.

"He is not a campaign employee and was not acting on behalf of the campaign," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer told RAW STORY.

Toward the end of Wednesday's Republican presidential debate, retired Brigadier Gen. Keith Kerr asked the candidates, "Why you think that American men and women in uniform are not professional enough to serve with gays and lesbians."

Right-wing bloggers quickly noted that Kerr was a member of Clinton's "LGBT Americans for Hillary" steering committee. Within 40 minutes of the debate's end, Townhall.com ran a post titled, "Hillary Plants a Question in Republican Debate."

After the debate had ended CNN host Anderson Cooper acknowledged the Clinton connection and said the network was unaware of it before airing his question.

"Certainly, had we had that information, we would have acknowledged that in using his question, if we had used it at all," Cooper told viewers.

Thursday, CNN acknowledged questions about Kerr and interviewed him about his ties to Clinton.

"I have not done any work (for Clinton), several friends asked me if I would allow my name to be listed, and I agreed," Kerr said referring to his position on the steering committee.

Kerr said is a registered independent and has not donated money to Clinton or any other 2008 candidates, and he stressed that no one put him up to asking the question. A search of OpenSecrets,a campaign finance database confirms Kerr has made no donations.

"This was a private initiative on my own," Kerr told CNN host John King.
This video is from CNN's American Morning, broadcast on November 29, 2007.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:14 PM
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5. Regardless of whether
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 02:16 PM by JTFrog
she put him up to it or not, it is not very ethical. You don't sit on someone's steering committee and then claim to be an unbiased independent.

I wouldn't want anyone from Romney or Guiliani's committees posing as an independent and asking questions at the democratic primary debates, but then maybe that's just me. :shrug:
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montanaliberaldem Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:21 PM
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6. It is a perfectly reasonable question that should be asked of this group.
I think his years of service to his country allow him to ask a
question that is very personal and important to him.  His
support of Hillary Clinton is his right and is not the point
here.  I want the Republicans to show their homophobia on TV. 
When one candidate mentioned that serving with openly gay or
lesbian soldiers would infringe on the faith and values of
Christians serving in the military, it just underscored how
this group has no concern for the civil rights of gays.  Why
should sexual orientation have anything to do with military
service?  "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is insulting in
the extreme.  How would the Christian Right react if we made
religious affilitation something not to be discussed or
displayed in the military.  I am a life-long Catholic, but I
get sick and tired of "Christians" shoving their
religion down my throat.  

And I would think that any democrat worth my vote could handle
a planted question from anyone. 
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 06:42 PM
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9. Did he claim to be an unbiased independent though?
I am not a fan of Hillary, in fact she is the one Democratic candidate that I am most fiercely opposed to getting the nomination.

But that is beside the point, Kerr did not say one word about Hillary in his beautiful and passionate speech. He was talking about equal rights for the GLBT community, and there is no reason that the GOP candidates should not have to listen to him. If you are running for public office you sure as hell better be able to listen to opposing viewpoints, and that was what he was offering. I would have no problem with a Republican doing something similar at a Democratic debate because debates should be about hearing different perspectives on the issues and then allowing candidates to respond.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:58 AM
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10. So you would have no problem
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 05:28 AM by JTFrog
with a republican showing up at a democratic debate and launching into her heartbreaking story of keeping her child after a teenage pregnancy or her friend who committed suicide after having an abortion.... Well I'm sure you can conjure a few scenarios as to where that might go.

The abortion issue is just as important to republicans as gay rights are to democrats. There is free speech and there are proper venues for that speech. As much as you might argue otherwise, I don't feel people have the inherit right to impose their points of view on whoever they want, whenever they want.

*on edit - he claimed to be an independent. perhaps I wrongly equated that with unbiased.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:35 AM
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11. I believe that candidates should have to listen to other points of view. Period.
As long as the story was true, no I would have no problem with them giving a Republican a minute or so to talk to the candidates about their views on abortion at a debate and then letting the candidates respond. A good candidate should be able to address such issues, that is part of being a candidate for office.

This was a perfectly proper venue for the General to give his speech, he was invited to do so and he accepted the invitation. I was glad to hear from more than just the Republican candidates and get a more sane perspective, if that means I have to compromise by allowing a Republican a couple minutes during the next Democratic debate so be it, I think debate is healthy and that any good Democratic candidate should be able to knock down any Republican talking points that get thrown at them.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:40 AM
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12. All good points. n/t
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 04:44 PM
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7. Poor little republican crybabies. Can't answer a question from a soldier.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 05:48 PM
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8. CNN says they wouldn't have used his question if they new...
If the new what?
a. If they new he was gay.
b. If they new he supported Hillary.

What a stupid statement.
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:14 PM
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13. What I find disturbing about this whole fiasco
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 02:14 PM by percussivemadness
is Gen Kerr, is being lambasted because he is gay, his Clinton stuff is merely a smokescreen. The fact that a gay man, served his country admirably and rose through the ranks to become a Brig General, is what should be focused upon here, because it shows (not that there should be any doubt), that anyone who wishes to serve their country in the army, navy and airforce should be judged on their character, not their sexual orientation, he has every right as a citizen to vote how he sees fit, that is th basis of a democracy.

Whilst I believe this to be a storm in a teacup, it does show just how irrationally homophobic a lot of the Reslugs are.

Peace
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