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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:49 PM
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Campbell Brown and CNN refer to MoveOn.org as insurgents.
 
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Propaganda of the worst kind ala CNN and Campbell Brown, who is incidentally married to Dan Senor (Bush appointee, Iraqi Coalition Provisional Authority Leader, and consultant for Google, and certified asshole). Get's me so fired up I think I'll contribute another $50 to MoveOn!
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:04 PM
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1. What a piece of shit piece
That whole bit was skewed to make moveon look dangerous. Never do they investigate any of moveon's claims, it's all about the political analysis, which is bullshit propaganda anyway designed to present a viewpoint.

God our fucking media sucks so bad.
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:14 PM
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4. I couldn't agree more.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:04 PM
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2. unbelievable
this is getting scary
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:05 PM
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3. insurgents against cleptocratic Corporate Fascism
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:17 PM
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5. I haven't gotten an answer back yet but
I wrote to MoveOn and asked if I could file a law suit against her and CNN. Since I am a member of MoveOn she in effect is calling me and all members insurgents. She has no proof, she has nothing to base this one. So why should we sit still and let these people continue to defame us in any way they want. IT HAS TO STOP.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:16 PM
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14. I was just telling my mom this same thing. I'm also a member, and of many other
"insurgent" groups.

Sliding downhill faster and faster now.

Class action required to end this shit NOW! Another "insurgent" group I belong too. :evilgrin:

Seriously starting to be frightened, but not nearly as much as I am enraged!
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:26 PM
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22. Hell, yea! A class-action lawsuit for defamation of character?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 07:38 PM
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26. I hope you can and will.
THIS HAS TO STOP!
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:59 PM
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28. I am with you!
Let me know if that is possible. In light the the Violent Radicalization and Home Grown Terrorist Prevention Act, she is using some scary buzz words. Extreme and insurgent, the only missing talking point was "recruit". I actually saw a post by someone on DU trying to defend the bill and accusing the OP of worrying about nothing and when the OP replied with solid facts the poster with no text said "you can't recruit me". I immediately felt the creepiest feeling. My family escaped Hitler, and this crap is for real. I am posting less and less. As Naomi Wolff says, after a while we will just shut up. I think a law suit would be great. We are over 1 million American Citizens, of all ages and backgrounds. I have written to Eli imploring him to bring this up in every interview. He still lets them frame MoveOn as a "Left Wing Group". GRRRRR
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:13 AM
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36. I'm a member too and I'm all for this. We don't even need a lawyer to file a
complaint. I really want to pursue this.
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:17 PM
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6. Media Matters take on this same subject.
CNN anchor Campbell Brown played a role in the debate itself, asking questions of the Democratic candidates. It was Campbell Brown who began the debate by telling Hillary Clinton that she had "stumbled on an important question" in a previous debate and by asking her to respond to criticism from her opponents. Earlier in the day, previewing that evening's debate, Brown had described supporters of John Edwards as "the angry far left, anti-war vote."

Brown's November 15 appearances actually marked her debut with CNN after having worked at NBC for 11 years. Given that it was Brown's introduction to CNN viewers, and that she was helping to moderate a Democratic debate, you might think it would have been the ideal time for her to disclose the fact that she is married to Republican strategist Dan Senor.

Senor served as a senior adviser to Paul Bremer, the presidential envoy in Iraq. According to his bio on the Bush White House's Web page, "Senor traveled to Baghdad in mid-April <2003> in one of the first civilian convoys to enter Iraq following the fall of the former regime. He advised Amb. Bremer on a variety of policy and communications issues." Senor has also served as a spokesperson for and advisor to Vets for Freedom, in addition to being "on retainer to help with fundraising" for the 527, which exists to support the Iraq war. And Senor is an unpaid adviser to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200712010002?f=h_column

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:21 PM
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7. The Continuous Effort on the Right, and Campbell is on the Right,,
to marginalize any Democratic Group viewed as having strength.

Conservatives cannot afford for Liberalism to have any showing.
This is a threat to Conservatism. Why do you Fox is on the constant
attack against MoveON. If it were not MoveOn It would be other
Democratic Groups.

There is a method in Campbell's madness.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:46 PM
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8. trying to marginalize is one thing... insinuating that they are 'insurgents' is slander
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 01:46 PM by ixion
IMO. Pure and Simple.
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fasterdemocratkilkil Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 01:47 PM
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9. Yep.
It's MSM reporting like this that sent me permanently to the internet 4 years ago. Thanks for the reminder.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:05 PM
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10. Welcome to DU, Fasterdemocratkilkil!
Hope that you've permanently found your way here!

:headbang:
rocknation
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fasterdemocratkilkil Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:29 PM
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11. Thanks for the welcome.
I've been over at DK for a little while and I thought I'd give DU a shot. Kampai!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:22 PM
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15. Same here, fasterdemocratkilkil. Welcome
to DU! :hi:

The story, among many scroll oddities, that got me finally was the bored, yawning boy shown on Letterman. What an epiphany it was for me!
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fasterdemocratkilkil Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:53 PM
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20. Thanks much, vickiss.
I appreciate the welcome and I look forward to contributing to the conversation here.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:09 PM
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21. Look forward to reading it! n/t
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:33 PM
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17. What does your name mean?
:shrug: Those words don't seem to blend with democratic thought of prudence, and non violence. Do you have a back-light thought on this name?
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fasterdemocratkilkil Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:48 PM
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18. A play off the Russ Meyer movie title "Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!"
I'm have a background in film, and the movie has always been one of my cult favorites.
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fasterdemocratkilkil Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:50 PM
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19. BTW.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:29 PM
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23. That's good to here. I was thinking alot of people are dumping
the MSM propoganda machine
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Gonnuts Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:38 PM
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41. Don't bet on that assumption ...
BTW - there is no such word as "alot" - it's "a lot" - anyway - most of America still gets there news from M$M and have little or no inclination to seek the truth. To be frank, they're afraid of the truth. The truth will upset long held beliefs that will tear their world apart. Having your entire life exposed as a lie is frightening. I have friends that I consider intelligent and aware that refuse to watch DVD's like "9/11 Press for Truth", so exposing them to "Zeitgeist" or "Terror Storm", for now, is out of the question. So to assume that "a lot of people are dumping MSM" is something I wouldn't put any money on.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:15 PM
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44. I make that mistake "a lot".
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 12:17 PM by BornagainDUer
((())))

Heck, you can't even spell yer name "Go nuts" . ;)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:08 AM
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37. Welcome to DU!
Glad you're here, and glad you're vigilant! The only mainstreamer I bother with anymore on a regular basis is Keith Olbermann. Oh yes, and Helen Thomas.
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:47 PM
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12. In the revolutionary war the insurgents were called by patriots.
Being an insurgent isn't so bad. Maybe necessary.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:29 PM
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16. So true, liberal hypnotist, so true.
Interesting 'hobby' listed in your profile, btw, favorite of mine also!

A late welcome to DU! :hi:

I hope it doesn't come to that, but I'm ready. As my great-great-great-?great grandfather said, "Don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes!".
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:11 PM
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13. Preparing for passage of S 1959.
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 03:29 PM by vickiss
Assholes and traitors is them!:grr:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:34 PM
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24. And she's got a law to back her up now!
Let's all give thanks to Congress for HR 1955!! :sarcasm:
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:47 PM
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25. Brown Biased
Campbell Brown is biased. Not only is her husband, San Senor, a Bush appointee and a consultant for Google he is an advisor to Mitt Romney. Did she ever point out that her husband's positions. I think she should be forced to point out her husband's connections.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:41 PM
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27. Good ol' Campbell strikes again
She has been a right-wing shill for years. Only now she is getting more strident and confident what with being on CNN and all instead of talking about Thanksgiving dinner ideas on the weekend Today Show.

She is getting a primetime show opposite Keith and O'Lielly. I expect her little bubble will be burst quickly when her ratings tank worse than Paula Zahn's did.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:11 PM
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29. I guess that makes me an "insurgent")...........n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:35 AM
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30. Merriam-Webster: 2: one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party
Of course, these rabid rightist don't know that, and are insurgents too under this definition.

Plus they are terrorizing us :rofl: damn terrorists!
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:03 AM
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31. and notice how they distorted betrayl
with the word traitor. Does not mean the same thing. Fudging a report is a betrayl. I can recall any one at Move On useing the word Traitor. Its a pretty big leap.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:55 AM
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32. What a major piece of propaganda. Petraeus betrayed himself...
by posting political op-eds in favor of Bush policies in the MSM long before Move on took him on, instead of just being a good soldier and doing his job. He instead made a political choice publicly, (not what a soldier in uniform is supposed to do), then set about making it a mission to organize a political campaign with power point presentations to sitting members of congress visiting Iraq and the MSM he invited over. Moveon questioned his intent and integrity because of his actions, they didn't call him anything, and they don't represent the "far left" but the middle. The right tries to make the middle into the "far left" calling the 'norm' extremism when it is the republicans who are extremists and far right. Move on represents middle America and this hit piece was extremely slanted and biased in its editing quoting only those lines to support their ambush reporting.

Just so you know that it is the MSM propaganda the Pew poll results show that the majority of Americans are progressive liberals and that conservatives are in the minority. Yeah, see what I mean? Shocked you didn't I. I was shocked to learn this. The MSM make it sound like progressive liberals are extreme left but they are the middle. They make it seem like conservatives are in the majority but they are in fact a minority. America has changed a lot in 6yrs. but see how that propaganda creeps in there thanks to the press. Thank God for the internet.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:07 PM
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42. Thom Hartmann calls us
the "radical middle". Our views on many, if not most issues represent those of the vast majority of Americans.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:11 AM
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33. Speaking as a former print journalist: "What a piece of shit that piece was."
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freefall Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 07:58 AM
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34. Haven't watched TV in years and don't have cable so I can't
threaten to cut off CNN. Can someone tell me who their major advertisers are? I hope moveon will support a suit against CNN and Brown but in the meantime I'll boycott as many of their advertisers as possible. I'm already into simple living and buy as little as possible and when I do buy, try to go the second hand route so there is often nothing for me to boycott. Earlier this year however, I refused to renew my AARP membership when I found out AARP were sponsors of Glen Beck's hatred. Their response to my letter said they were sorry to lose me and I was welcome back at any time and completely ignored my reason for refusing to renew. Boycotting may not be terribly effective but it does make me feel better when I stop dealing with right-wing propagandists and their supporters.

CNN needs to apologize and rein in that woman. This is indeed frightening. Please moveon, sue!

I don't know whether to be more :scared:, sad :cry:, or angry :grr:.

Peace,

freefall
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lowry Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:47 AM
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35. Been here a long time. This one's pushed me over the edge.
Greetings. I've lurked for years, so no need to welcome me. I abandoned the corporate media years ago--no tv, no paper, nothing but DU, Democracy Now, truthout, etc. This assertion by a corporate media shill--that members of moveon.org are "insurgents", coupled with the provisions of the Violent Radicalization and Home Grown Terrorist Prevention Act, endangers us all. Naomi Wolf is right: arrests of dissidents cannot be far away. The media will echo this meme (that dissidents are insurgents), and the sheeple will all be quite mindlessly pleased as we are taken away.

Because of my local activism, here in a deeply red state, I'm readily identifiable as a "dissident". I'm a life-long pacifist; but if they came for me, or my family, what would I do? What would you good folks do? It's getting scary around here.
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quiethm75 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:35 AM
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38. This is really getting scary.
Now they openly call us insurgents. I can't f'ing believe it.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:41 AM
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39. CNN is Engaged in Terrorism Now
That's what this is. It's spreading fear of other American citizens just because they disagree with the politicians in this government who are behind this illegal occupation. They are engaging in war like rhetoric of American citizens, good citizens. Think about it. Turn their rhetoric back on them all.

As I said before on another thread, CNN and Fox News should be sued and this is one reason why.
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Gonnuts Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:19 PM
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40. Another brick in the wall
Naomi Wolf's "End of America" is in spot-on. Orwell, of course saw this coming 70-odd years ago.

Add on the Patriot Act, Military Commission Act, and now the horrifying bill H.R 1955: the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 and the empty FEMA prisons and Blackwater and we can pretty much look for something drastic to happen soon.

It's only going to take one more false-flag attack and the totalitarian hammer will strike down hard. By CNN categorizing MoveOn as "homegrown insurgents" what's to stop the government after H.R 1955 becomes law from shutting down MoveOn and starting the round-up of it's members? After that who's next? Will the "Underground" in DU be considered "subversive"?
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 05:07 PM
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43. Remember, too, that the people of New Orleans were called "insurgents" after Katrina, when they
were trying to get food and water. Several media outlets used the term.
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