Clinton's Heartfelt Answer at TX Debate - Only Standing Ovation of the Night

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it had nothing to do with the debate ending. she got cheated on big deal, my mom did as well and shes not using it for a promotion.if the end was truly her best moment then you have confirmed what most of us know...shes done.

:applause:

Sonia

that is the difference, she has the issue with others using speech parts and lines that are not originally theirs.

and only his faithful throng try to spin it as something it wasn't. Don't do that. Makes you look desperate.

I watched many of Edwards speeches while he was in the campaign. He said that line frequently.

Politicians can't echo similar sentiments anymore?

That's like saying a candidate who utters "God bless the United States of America" is merely plagiarizing hundreds of other people...

These are public servants, and although their campaigns are market-tested like any corporation's, at the end of the day the ideas and notions and sentiments they produce are not trademarked.

For the record, I thought the same thing about Obama's "just words" riff.

If that Hillary had been on campaign all this time I might have voted differently.

BTW, I do remember something similar, just not exact. Words of a sentence or so can be rearranged without it ever being considered stealing. However, the whole passage used by Obama somehow seemed different. I would need to see them all comparatively speaking.

ever say anything positive, seem to me its always about tearing others down, or put a negative spin on things....politic of destruction??? count me out.

and both sides put down plenty.

John Edward's and Bill Clinton's words. SHE was the one trying to tear someone down and tragically plowed on oblivious to the first hypocrisy that was exposed with her false accusations:

She accused Obama of Plagiarism, made a big deal about it --- then denied it was her campaign, said it was the "media" stoking it. Then she very closely paraphrases John Edwards after the big speech about using your own words last night...

But I thought she got the Standing O because her closing comment sounded so much like a concession remark. was it just me?

Not because she truly believe that Sadam was a threat, but because she wanted to protect herself from republican ire in the general election that she thought she would already be a shoe in to win.

of us how you got into HR's mind to determine what she truly beleives, what she wants and what she thinks. See if you can find out how she feels about idiots who pretend to know how others feel and think or what they based their decisons on regarding "voting to send them to war". While your at it, pls send me a link to the Vote to Send Them to War legislation that she and only HR voted on.

:-)

I was here at my desk crying a little about the story of the soldiers, I spent ten years in the Navy, and all of you think they gave her a standing ovation for the line about her and Obama being alright. This is what always happens. She had a wonderful answer and message, but the focus is completely wrong. People's vehemence to-wards her clouds everything.

she wants them there. it was an act to illicit sympathy. like her crying pizza comment. look at her overall demeanor in this debate. it was that of a spoiled little rich girl. id like to see her meet with world powers and throw a pity speech and try to squeeze out a tear and see how much respect she'll get. shes a fraud. the whole time she could barely look at obama. he won my vote tonight.

And I don't see it the way you do. I liked JE, but he's gone now. I've got these two to choose from now, and the way everyone attacks her, makes me want to support her. Your whole argument was about her demeanor and attitude. Those are things that are judgmental and not absolutes. The last jerk got elected twice, because he was supposedly more likable and personable than the other options. That has really worked out well for us.

yeah but he was dense to us all. its not an attack on her. i do not dislike her and if your choosing your vote over how people on a board react to a candidate your doing it wrong. close your eyes and listen to them...who would you like then?

I don't care about any of that. Who I like and don't like is my business. I will decide who I will vote for by what I have read (verifiable) that they have said and by what I hear them say. I don't need to do any meditation or new wave soul searching about how they sound. I don't reference this vehemence I'm talking about in reference to just this board. This is the place were I complain about it, since I'm in Alabama and work with all repukes. Her answer was a great one, and I liked it. If she ripped off the closing, I don't care. I also didn't care about the flack with Obama on that issue too. People need to be more reasonable in their support of their candidate and their attacks on the other candidate. We've all got to come together after the nomination process is over, at least I hope we do. If you hit somebody too hard, when you offer them your hand to help them up, they don't take it.

was a metaphor... not a yoga act. by closing your eyes you dont see influence or color or sex you see only your thoughts. and by all means read. as smart as i think you are the choice will be very clear. Why do we want more of the same? if hillary had no pedigree (bill) she wouldnt be on the stage shes on.

based on the posts from you, you are one of typical Hillary haters.

When people can only interpret Hillary Clinton's comments this way...that's what sexism (and agism?) is all about...

and just absolutely loves her. He is definitely voting for her, he gives the Iraq mistake to the Bush administration, where it belongs---100%. It's amazing the Obama supporters are acting as if it was Clinton who started the damn war--it's a mystery that some of Obama's supporters really "hate" her. It's obvious from reading their posts. It's really sad, they have to take the low road; even when their guy is ahead. Go figure.

Hillary can get job done as president; especially with the economy, healthcare for EVERYONE, education, etc. Her dedication is beyond belief, and I hope everyone will see that in the long run, she just is the better candidate, and more importantly, a leader our country needs. Here's to you Madam President!!

I can see through all the BO fluff.

Hillary was definitely the "stand out" in this debate. She has won my vote and heart!
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so you'll remain in the minority huh? she lost. heck,she practically gave a concession at the end. dont try to spin this. it was pretty clear cut.

your snide remarks only shows the low caliber of some Obama supporters. Obama supporters just can't stand it when Hillary Clinton outshines their guy. Try and get over it already! Hillary was in her element, talking directly to the people. Her town meetings are awesome, she is one hell of a lady. Her economic package is amazing, her policies for the poor and middle class are on right on the mark, and her healthcare package is far better than what Obama offers. No, we not in the minority, in fact, Clinton's policies represents the values of the vast majority.

why is she losing?

millions are asking? If people would just listen to her message, not political rhetoric, maybe things would be different. ABC had a segment about this. The "beatlemania" syndrome. It's either voting with "emotions" or voting with "logic"; and there are cross-overs in the primaries that contribute to some of Obama's success, with our country needing a leader, everyone wants to hear about hope and change. Some people believe Obama's rhetoric, but it takes a leader to carry out hope and change; to actually implement policies that are good for the country; I'd rather have a leader who thinks, rather than hope for change. Simple as that.

im going to plagerize from a commercial,,,sometimes you get what you need. and tonight who acted the part of a leader? not hillary. she tried to take it to the playground and if not for the crowd boo'ing her classless remark she wouldve continued on that path. to me thats a problem. a leader should lead, not act on emotion. shes not right for our country, at least not as its leader. vp hillary sounds nice though.

whole campaign runs on "emotion". Even the news media has picked up on it. Comparing Obama supporters with "beatlmania" or "hannah montana". No Hillary was not acting on emotion tonite; just the facts. You're the one acting on emotion now. It's ok though. That what drives Obama's campaign; and that what drives his supporters. Weird, that's all you picked up on from my post, I mention policies, not a word; but mention "emotion" and Obama supporters get all fired up. Just proved my point.

...to folks like Keith Olbermann, is that John Edwards used these words in his dropping out speech.

"But I want to say this to everyone: with Elizabeth, with my family, with my friends, with all of you and all of your support, this son of a millworker's gonna be just fine. Our job now is to make certain that America will be fine."

I am so proud of her! A true diplomat.

Hillary "The Plagiarism Buster" Clinton last night:

"You know, whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people. And that's what this election should be about."

John Edwards, December 13 debate:

"What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

It's 8:35 Pacific Time, the debate's been over for what? A couple hours, and this video is already no longer available for viewing!

..."We're going to be fine..." etc.

Taken directly from him.

Good moment for Hillary - thanks to John. :)

when Hillary was accusing Obama of "plagiarizing" the Hillary supporters were up in arms about it. But now when it is Hillary stealing from Edwards (and her husband in the same statement), its somehow okay. And they call Obama supporters cultists?

I hope John has a copyright on his name and ideas. She probably owes him several thousand by now.

all lovey dovey after the debates.

Also, the debate had come to a close, so a standing ovation makes sense.

noticing that, Thanks for helping realize I wasn't seeing things.

several other times during the night when both candidates came on the stage, they all stood
and applauded.

And most people are calling it a standing ovation for Hillary's comment.

Not so. I believe it was for both of them.

Thanks for posting this.
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Hillary "The Plagiarism Buster" Clinton last night:

"You know, whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people. And that's what this election should be about."

John Edwards, December 13 debate:

"What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

She was reaching out to Barack, telling him she is interested in a Veep spot, or maybe Secretary of Defense. She was also telling her Superdelegates to go with the popular vote -- meaning vote for Obama.

Hillary was classy. Something you don't see very often from her. Now, if she had taken responsibility for her Iraq war vote and apologized, she might be the front runner today.

Directly from John Edwards' heart at least. The statement has a tone that does not resonate with the form of Hillarys campaign though. Until now at least.

I can tell you that both of their closing arguments were completely rehearsed and staged. Down to the carefully choreographed hand movements to settle the other candidate down and make them look like the parent on the stage.

Anyone who believes that this stuff is truly heartfelt needs to go back to school.

That's interesting. I only saw the last half and mentioned to my husband that I've never seen so many "standing ovations" for a debate. Granted, Clinton is at her best when she's making you feel sorry for her. We all have a tendency to want to protect the Clintons after what they went through in the 90's. Anyway - Clinton or Obama - it wouldn't make much difference to me (not a whole lot of difference in policies and I like them both) if Clinton hadn't fallen, hook, line, and sinker for the bush lies. No one on this site fell for them, that's for sure. The debate? - I wouldn't have been able to decide between them from it - it was a tie in my opinion.

and he was stronger on the war.

Both important issues! I hope we get them both!! We need 'em!

bullshit like Hillary does. Sure the comment was lifted, but thats the difference in these two campaigns. The Clintons must jump on every little thing (the xerox comment was really a new low). Obama is the true statesman between these two, he's the leader she's the polarizing figure. Even if Hillary does come back (and I doubt it) and win this thing, she'll get destroyed by McCain because she's managed to take the low road on almost every issue. Obama is the politics of change, while Hill is stuck in the politcs of personal destruction.

She voted for the war and now she wants us to feel bad for her because the soldiers are getting hurt? She is the one who put them in harms way in a unjust war.


what a joke. People only look at the surface of things instead of thinking a little deeper.

Hillary "The Plagiarism Buster" Clinton last night:

"You know, whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people. And that's what this election should be about."

John Edwards, December 13 debate:

"What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

Folks, really...stop this plagiarism "row." This is really silly and juvenile. People borrow words, so what. I thought they both looked great last night. I only saw 35 minutes (amount of time on stairmaster in gym), and I thought Clinton made some great points and Obama did, too. As an Edwards supporter, I have been toying with the notion of writing in JE in the general just because I didn't feel comfortable with either of these folks. Now, I'll gladly pull the lever for either one. This "plagiarism" crap is just that...crap. Get on with the real issues...and there are PLENTY of those.

Hillary started it and made it the low point of the debate last night. When she and her people stop, so will we.

BOTH got the ovation from BOTH groups of motivated supporters in the audience because it was the end and because they BOTH did well.

They BOTH got the ovation. What she ONLY got was the ONLY booing of the night when she tried to play the "plagiarism" card. LOWEST point of the night. I will give you that the story about the wounded veterans was good. Both candidates did well overall. Pretty much a draw.

1> It wasn't much of a boo
2> I'm not sure it was directed at her. The boo happened when Obama was mumbling a response to her comment.

She had the last comment of the night. It was a good one, to be sure, very politically correct and oh so Chrisitian.

However, it is normal at the end of any good piece of theater for the crowd to rise and give the actors an ovation. Her reply at the end was tne end of great piece of political theater and the audience was acknowledging both of the actors.... I mean candidates.

Because if you've ever encountered burn victims or people who've had limbs blown off by bombs, as I have (and as, I suspect, many people here have not), then you know that what she said in this clip was heartfelt and honest.

In the very best sense. I'm an Obama supporter, but I admire her greatly.

Hillary "The Plagiarism Buster" Clinton last night:

"You know, whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people. And that's what this election should be about."

John Edwards, December 13 debate:

"What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

Even in her most sincere moments, Hillary is just a Xerox of John Edwards.

Good job!

As was pointed out by Steve Benen of the Carpetbagger Report (via http://www.alternet.org), Hillary's sentiment, that she'll be OK, but that she hopes hope that America will be Ok, was ripped from John Edwards in a December debate. While not accusing Hillary of plagiarism, he does note the irony of her "Xerox" attack on Barack. Irony, indeed.

Jeezus on a pogo stick, what do people want her to say? "Life sucks, get over it"?

This is quintessential American politics, that no matter what happens, we'll all be fine. It's a little bit patronizing, but so what.

As for Barack using the term "silly season," (The silly season is the period lasting for a few months (starting in mid- to late summer) in the United States, the United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia typified by the emergence of frivolous news stories in the media), he should know silly with his crowds chanting "Yes we can," adoring teeny-boppers screaming, "I love you, you give me the Big O!" It doesn't get much sillier than that in politics.

Hillary "The Plagiarism Buster" Clinton last night:

"You know, whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people. And that's what this election should be about."

John Edwards, December 13 debate:

"What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

(*edited to include link)

to stand, crowd thought the debate was over. They were applauding both candidates.

but you get a cigar anyway.

it was stage-managed by CNN, according to one who was there:

The standing ovation was for both candidates. In fact, a CNN stage manager was waving his arms for the audience to stand, signaling the debate was over. It had nothing to do with what Hillary had said. The audience thought the debate was over. Many are also overlooking the fact that this supposedly spontaneous and emotional Clinton moment was actually a rephrasing of remarks by her husband and John Edwards.

Thank you for posting.

his flip-flop on meeting with the new cuban leader was prominent, and that is apparently hitting the front pages today.....her last answer was awesome, its all over the news today and getting major clicks at youtube.

That was the closing of the debate ... they had both made good closing remarks, and Hillary's just happened to
be the last one .. and the crowd went wild .. not necessarily just for Hillary (tho her closing was good, I'll
admit) .. it was for both of them, for the whole debate. It's unfair and self-serving to attribute it to
Hillary.

The crowd was electrified by the dynamic duo all night .. when they cut back to the live coverage of the hall
after the last commercial break the whole crowd was on their feet too.. wildly applauding BOTH candidates for
the

listening to the media whore media and your spin, I might think otherwise.

Raise your hands if you're on Karl Rove's payroll.

Thought so.

Nice try to spin your way out of my astute and accurate observations however, but no cigar.

"These wounded warriors," crawling in disfigurement, etc. etc. As if they're sympathy props banged-up just in time for use in her campaign. To "keep me going." Oh, sure.

Remember: you put them there in harm's way with your eagerness for war, you silly, pointless fraud. Go to hell, won't you? You've stunk up this race and this party quite enough.

I have been sitting here as a Kucinich/Edwards supporter watching both sides duke this thing out and it's almost hilarious at times at least here on DU.

My take on the debate: She didn't lose but got no earned bonus points either. As for her final comment, I never really felt it came from her heart even as she spoke the words but thought she's going to get way to much credit for it. Well that was until I found out she stole the words from Edwards and now Bill too especially after the stink she had just made about Obama plagiarizing someone from his own campaign. Sounds like hypocrisy of the worst kind to me and I hate hypocrites.

As for the standing ovation at the end, my husband commented see she's getting a standing ovation to irritate me and all my immediate reaction was she is getting no standing ovation, that ovation is for both candidates and the end of the debate. She just happened to be the one giving the final comments. It was also not the only standing ovation as my husband reminded me there was a standing ovation for just coming back from a commercial. It would seem it doesn't take a lot to get a standing ovation from this audience.

I had planned on not voting for either of these two candidates in the primaries until Hillary's incessant whining made me decide that for that reason alone I prefer to have Obama on the democratic ticket. He would also be more formidable debating McCain at least on the Iraq war issue as Hillary has never even admitted she made a bad decision on voting for the war.

from Southern Illinois, Clinton 4,170 Obama 3,461. Who'd a thunk it. Never expected this.

weak sauce

Take control, Hillary!

According to eyewitnesses who were there, there were numerous standing O's throughout the evening

I've got a standing ovation for the candidate who can pledge to re-engage our allies and our enemies alike on day one.

Instead of feeling pride for the wounded servicemen, she should of gotten on her knees and begged forgiveness for voting to give Bush permission to send them to Iraq. If Bush the bumbling idiot in washington can fool her then how does anyone think she can deal with more intelligent heads of states. Mr OBAMA is the only candidate who can look the thousands of wounded servicemen and women in the eye and vow to end Hillary's war and bring our soldiers home and Mean It from the heart.

was because the debate was over. And if Hillary can run the US economy as good as she runs her campaign may God help us all.

I don't get it.