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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:51 AM
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Citizenobserver.com.. A NEW Big Brother type website that allows you to report your neighbors
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:53 AM
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1. For citizens....
Stay connected - receive alerts from local police or sheriff's office by email and txt/sms message on your cell phone

Find your community now...
http://www.citizenobserver.com/cov6/app/findGroups.html
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:54 AM
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2. Libel and Slander made easy! Not to mention revenge on demand! n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:57 AM
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3. it's a software program that provides two-way communication for police and their most helpful, watch
Online crime alerts a gift to be envied
Police, residents on North Side first to use the computer software others anxious to obtain
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Thursday, April 26, 2007
Diana Nelson Jones,

Two months ago, the Pittsburgh Police Bureau's North Side station acquired a new weapon -- a computer-based system that lets officers alert residents to crimes, missing persons and other emergencies almost instantaneously.

At its best, the system will allow residents just as quickly to report back to police any suspicious activity on their streets. At the least, a speedy tip from a resident could cut the amount of time police spend investigating.

It's too early to attribute any arrests to public participation, said Officer Forrest Hodges of the North Side station, "but it has a promising future."

Called CitizenObserver.com, it's a software program that provides two-way communication for police and their most helpful, watchful neighborhood collaborators. The system even includes anonymous tip forms.

The system was a gift from the Northside Leadership Conference, which raised $11,000 for a two-year use. The money came from seven banks, a TV station and the North Side's two councilwomen, Tonya Payne and Darlene Harris.

"We aren't allowed to raise money," said Officer Hodges, "so the conference was our angel."

View Entire Story
http://www.citizenobserver.com/cov6/app/ncnews_pitt_042007.jsp

RATS!

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:00 PM
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4. Boy oh boy, if Mrs. Cravetz gets ahold of this...the police will have nothing to do but work for Mrs
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 12:01 PM by lonestarnot
Cravetz.:P
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:00 PM
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5. Oh this will be great fun for some nosey old *&^% that has nothing else to do
but stare out her windows all day long. I bet this was the Republicans idea!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:22 PM
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13. The President of the company doesn't have any RNC or other donations...
on the FEC website, so they may be rightwing but don't actively support anyone. Here is the article where I found this name:
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/04/03/loc_loc2lert.html
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:26 PM
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14. Strike my post, I just found his contributions under the name Terrance Halsch...
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 12:26 PM by originalpckelly
after just conducting a search using only his last name, instead of using "Terry Halsch":
http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?22020212439

http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?22992413512

http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?22020262081

You were absolutely right, this little fascist created the system. :puke:
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:02 PM
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6. Fascism without the trouble of overthrow.........eom
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:04 PM
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7. Community-based initiatives
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/13276359/detail.html
Community-based initiatives -- The city is pushing its anonymous 311 phone tip line and its two-way communication tool, CitizenObserver.com, where neighbors can log on and quickly alert authorities to crimes and suspicious activity on their street.

CitizenObserver is only available in Zone 1, but Harper said it will be expanded citywide "within the next few weeks."

Also, Ravenstahl said a faith-based initiative called "Adopt A Block" will allow members of a church community to keep an eye on the area near their buildings and work together to beautify the neighborhood.

"The police can't be everywhere," said Ravenstahl. "They're not going to be there when the shooting or violent activity takes place. But guess what, somebody else is. And if somebody else doesn't step forward, we're can't be successful."

Surveillance Cameras -- Ravenstahl did not give a timetable but said the use of surveillance cameras in high-crime areas is being considered. He spoke of his recent trip to Chicago, where statistics have shown a drop in serious crimes and police calls for drug activity during the several months that a surveillance system has been in place.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/13276359/detail.html

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:12 PM
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8. Kentucky, Boston, Florida, CA, and Ohio....
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:15 PM
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9. For the campus
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:19 PM
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10. Find watch groups in your area. Just put in your state and zipcode..
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 12:19 PM by Joanne98
I didn't have any within 5 miles of me. Thank God.
http://www.citizenobserver.com/cov6/app/findWatchGroups.html
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:19 PM
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11. WOW! Keep this up and soon America will take the #1 spot for
the country that is least likely to be the victim of a terrorist attack!

We can beat North Korea for that #1 spot, yes we can!
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?ebb8a5f5-e554-4c7a-adf1-81f2e421bfab


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:21 PM
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12. I'm sure Lil Kim the Dear Leader will very interested in this program.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:28 PM
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16. He'll have to be, if he wants to keep his #1 spot.
Coz the man has keen competition.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:29 PM
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17. These type of Nazis really make me skin crawl...
Turning neighbors against neighbors. This almost sounds like the system used in Fahrenheit 451, where the police would put out an alert and everyone would start searching for the accused criminal by going and standing on their porches.

There is something really wrong with people who'd think of doing this.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:26 PM
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15. Be a team player....
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:30 PM
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18. Honey, the thought police are here.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:31 PM
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20. You bet they are, I'm so sick of tyranny!
Any suspicious activity!??!!!??!!! :wow: These people are really a bunch of dumbshits for not realizing how much abuse that type of system could have. And of course, the company was started by a Republican.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:31 PM
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19. Citizenobserver. Com INC
6. Citizenobserver .Com Inc Phone: 651-225-9957
325 Cedar St, Saint Paul, MN 55101
Update listing | Map
http://pd.startribune.com/sp?aff=15&catId=11040400

7. Citizenobserver .Com Inc Phone: 651-225-9957
325 Cedar St, Saint Paul, MN 55101
Update listing | Map
http://pd.startribune.com/sp?aff=15&catId=11040400

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:32 PM
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21. Hey I did more than that, I tracked down the President of the company...
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 12:32 PM by originalpckelly
and he's a Republican puke:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1032708&mesg_id=1032908

Doesn't this kind of shit just make your skin crawl or what? Encouraging people to sell each other out. Can't be good for trust in our society.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:36 PM
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22. Citizenobserver technology patented in CANADA!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:39 PM
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24. There's three names for the inventors. I can't find the owners..
JORDAN, JOHN (United States)
HALSCH, TERRANCE R. (United States)
TROY, TERRY
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:36 PM
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23. Imagine the fun the kids can have turning in Mommy & Daddy!
IF You discipline the kids for misconduct, you better withdraw those internet privileges until they cool off!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:41 PM
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25. And they can install it in the public school system so the children can report
They're parents nightly activies.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:45 PM
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26. So what? Like someone couldn't use their telephone to do the same thing? n/t
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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32. Using the telephone wouldn't be instantly publicized to the world. There's a difference. n/t
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM by live love laugh
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:48 PM
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27. Awesome. Now racist folks can make shit up against brown people....
... and genuine terrorists can focus authorities' eyes "over there" when they're bombing us "over here".
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:50 PM
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28. I googled the international publication number and got something.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:53 PM
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29. That link won't work here's the google cache...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:06 PM
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30. World Intellectual Property Organization
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2003053006
Latest bibliographic data on file with the International Bureau
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Publication Number: WO/2003/053006 International Application No.: PCT/US2002/040325
Publication Date: 26.06.2003 International Filing Date: 17.12.2002
Chapter 2 Demand Filed: 15.07.2003

Int. Class.: H04L 12/18 (2006.01), H04L 12/58 (2006.01)
Applicant: CITIZENOBSERVER.COM, INC. ; 325 Cedar Street, #425, St. Paul, MN 55101 (US).
Inventors: TROY, Terry; 325 Cedar Street, #425, St. Paul, MN 55101 (US).
HALSCH, Terry; 325 Cedar Street, #425, St. Paul, MN 55101 (US).
JORDAN, John; 325 Cedar Street, #425, St. Paul, MN 55101 (US).
Agent: LIESKE, Steven, C.; Oppenheimer Wolff & Donnelly LLP, 45 South Seventh Street, Suite 3300, Minneapolis, MN 55402-1609 (US).
Priority Data: 60/341,420 17.12.2001 US
10/320,169 16.12.2002 US

Title: AN INFORMATION NOTIFICATION SYSTEM

Abstract: A method for sending a message from a sender to a receiver may begin with the sender choosing what type of message to create. The message may then be created in a format matching the type of message chosen. If desired, the sender may choose one or more groups to receive the message. If desired, the sender may also choose one or more communication channels to use in distributing the information. Once the sender chooses a geographic coverage area, the message is distributed to the proper recipients. The message may be stored in a database for later retrieval.

Designated States: AE, AG, AL, AM, AT, AU, AZ, BA, BB, BG, BR, BY, BZ, CA, CH, CN, CO, CR, CU, CZ, DE, DK, DM, DZ, EC, EE, ES, FI, GB, GD, GE, GH, GM, HR, HU, ID, IL, IN, IS, JP, KE, KG, KP, KR, KZ, LC, LK, LR, LS, LT, LU, LV, MA, MD, MG, MK, MN, MW, MX, MZ, NO, NZ, OM, PH, PL, PT, RO, RU, SD, SE, SG, SK, SL, TJ, TM, TN, TR, TT, TZ, UA, UG, UZ, VN, YU, ZA, ZM, ZW.
African Regional Intellectual Property Org. (ARIPO) (GH, GM, KE, LS, MW, MZ, SD, SL, SZ, TZ, UG, ZM, ZW)
Eurasian Patent Organization (EAPO) (AM, AZ, BY, KG, KZ, MD, RU, TJ, TM)
European Patent Office (EPO) (AT, BE, BG, CH, CY, CZ, DE, DK, EE, ES, FI, FR, GB, GR, IE, IT, LU, MC, NL, PT, SE, SI, SK, TR)
African Intellectual Property Organization (OAPI) (BF, BJ, CF, CG, CI, CM, GA, GN, GQ, GW, ML, MR, NE, SN, TD, TG).
Publication Language: English (EN)
Filing Language: English (EN)
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2003053006
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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31. It looks like the owner is the inventor...Terry Halsch, president of the St. Paul, Minn.-based compa
http://www.innovations.harvard.edu/news/27871.html?p=1
Online crime alerts a gift to be envied; Police, residents on North Side first to use computer others are anxious to obtain

DIANA NELSON JONES, PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Pennsylvania)
April 26, 2007
Copyright 2007 P.G. Publishing Co.

Two months ago, the Pittsburgh Police Bureau's North Side station acquired a new weapon -- a computer-based system that lets officers alert residents to crimes, missing persons and other emergencies almost instantaneously.

At its best, the system will allow residents just as quickly to report back to police any suspicious activity on their streets. At the least, a speedy tip from a resident could cut the amount of time police spend investigating.

It's too early to attribute any arrests to public participation, said Officer Forrest Hodges of the North Side station, "but it has a promising future."

The software program, called CitizenObserver.com, provides two-way communication for police and their most helpful, watchful neighborhood collaborators. The system even includes anonymous tip forms.

The system was a gift from the Northside Leadership Conference, which raised $11,000 for a two-year use. The money came from seven banks, a TV station and the North Side's two councilwomen, Tonya Payne and Darlene Harris.

The system allows the police to issue bulletins with several levels of discretion, from general alerts anyone can read to site specific, insider information meant for block-watch contacts. A separate level lets banks and other merchants get alerts specific to businesses.

There's no cost to residents to receive the alerts.

It is currently in 300 law enforcement agencies in 30 states, said Terry Halsch, president of the St. Paul, Minn.-based company. The North Side station is the company's first Pennsylvania client.

City Councilman Len Bodack convened a meeting of council members and police representatives Monday to discuss the possibilities of a citywide activation.

He said police commanders in District 7, which he represents, are lobbying him to get the system.

"It's a tool that stretches and enhances the efforts we're making with our block watches," he said. "I've directed our budget guy to converse with Scott Kunka on the mayor's end to see if we can find money already in our budget."

"All of council is looking for the full $44,000 so it can become citywide by the end of May," said Councilman Bill Peduto.

Police Chief Nate Harper said the system "could be rolled out throughout the city by late May or mid-June" with a variety of funding sources, as happened on the North Side.

Officer Hodges said his 20 North Side block-watch groups have responded enthusiastically, but most of the feedback so far is about potential.

"Given that it hasn't been in effect long, we haven't gotten many alerts yet," said Kimberly Flaherty, coordinator of North Side Safe Streets.

While civil liberties advocates have voiced concerns about the effects of overly vigilant and assertive anticrime neighborhood watches, this police tool has not become an issue.

"I don't have any alarm bells going off," said Vic Walczak, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Pennsylvania.

Jean O'Neil, spokesman for the National Crime Prevention Council, said she has heard of the system but not seen data.
The North Side system's cost of $11,000 over two years pales in comparison to the cost of crime.

"That does not include the cost of investigating, apprehending or prosecuting," she said.

Mr. Halsch developed the system after a decade of selling training devices to military special forces and SWAT teams, he said. He started the company in August 2001.

http://www.innovations.harvard.edu/news/27871.html?p=1


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:25 PM
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33. Oh Terry Halsch has much bigger ideas for our safety citizen webcams!
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 01:28 PM by Joanne98
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C05E7DA163DF937A15751C0A9639C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=3
On the other hand, Terry Halsch, president of a security consulting firm based in St. Paul called CitizenObserver, offers a counterintuitive scheme for security: make access to your outdoor cameras completely open, allowing anyone to look at what's happening on your street, to create a kind of global neighborhood watch. Visit citizenobserver.com for more information

HOW NICE OF HIM TO THINK OF THAT!

:nuke:

''We're trying to bring back something of the old feeling of neighbors watching out for each other, combined with new technology,'' Mr. Halsch said.


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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:31 PM
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34. Here's a simple solution: "Drown them in data".
If your community has such a "tip-line", then report EVERYTHING. Have your friends report EVERYTHING.

Every single thing you can think of, (or perhaps imagine?) and clog up the system with useless information. Before long, those tasked to sift through the tips will be thinking they have been asked to seperate fly shit from pepper...

In a month or two, it will be shut down and deemed untenable. :evilgrin:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:37 PM
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36. I have a better idea. Let's collect all the GOP addresses in the country
And get our own citizenobservers to report any criminal activity by the thugs!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:35 PM
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35. And it's posted on a AARP forum.. OF COURSE!
I told you a bunch of nosey old *&^% who had NOTHING ELSE TO DO would love this..
http://communityexchange.aarp.org/talk.php?section=tott&action=flagTottPost&id=266&flag=other&tott_thread_id=180
by swegenast on 3/15 9:23 am

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CitizenObserver can help keep your Watch Group informed without having to go door to door with flyers.

Louisville Metro Chief,Robert White invites you to Metro's newest community safety project: CitizenObserver, the communication tool for a new century.

Metro will be providing information that will include several exciting new ways to keep us all connected and informed and will help keep our community safer.

Be sure you sign up with www.CitizenObserver.com and bookmark the site.

Local businesses can participate in the Business Alert Network. Be sure to select your correct business category when you register so that we only send you alerts that impact your company. You can receive these targeted, instantaneous alerts via email, cell phone, pager and fax.

Watch Groups can have their own dedicated page on CitizenObserver to stay informed about what is happening in your neighborhood. You can receive Neighborhood Alerts directly from our department about crimes or other incidents that are uniquely relevant to you.

Residents can bookmark this page to automatically receive Crime Alerts to stay informed about crimes and other safety issues in our community.

There is no limit to what we can accomplish in the pursuit of a safer community if we all work together, stay alert and stay connected!

Find out more about the Louisville PD Alert Network at www.574-lmpd.com

If you are a citizen who would like to be a captain and start a new Watch Program, please click here to see if a group is already in place in your neighborhood. If not, you can email your local law enforcement agency to apply for a new group.
http://communityexchange.aarp.org/talk.php?section=tott&action=flagTottPost&id=266&flag=other&tott_thread_id=180


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:43 PM
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37. OH! Citizenobserver has a privacy policy, FOR THEMSELVES!
I glad somepeople still have some privacy left...:sarcasm:
http://www.citizenobserver.com/cov6/app/ncprivacy.jsp
Privacy Policy
Privacy Policy for CitizenObserver.com

Introduction

We take your privacy very seriously. Except as stated in this Privacy Policy, we do not disclose any personally identifiable information about you without your permission. However, we may share with third parties aggregated data that contains no personally identifiable information.
Your continued use of this site signifies your consent to this Privacy Policy, which may be amended from time to time. If we make any material changes in this Privacy Policy, we will post an announcement on the site.

Information Collected

Although we cannot foresee all instances in which information about you may be collected through the site, currently we expect to collect information in the following circumstances:
(1) During registration: we will collect information about you when you submit your user registration form;
(2) Logging onto the site: a cookie may be stored on your computer;
(3) Working with our technical support team: we may collect information to assist us in correcting your problem;
(4) Entering promotions or contests that we or our partners sponsor: we may ask for information so that we can contact you should you be a winner;
(5) Services - either free or for a fee: when you sign up for a service from us or one of our authorized partners, we or our partners may ask you for information. If the service requires a fee, we or our partners may also need to ask you for financial information - such as a credit card number;
(6) If you participate in any discussion boards or submit other content to the site: we may collect information from the content you provide;
(7) Optional surveys: we may ask for demographic data, or information about your use of the site.
(8) Purchases: if you make purchases through this site, we or our business partners may ask for information necessary to complete the transaction, such as your name, address, telephone number and credit card number.

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We use the data collected about you and other users of the site on an aggregated basis to do such things as operate and enhance the System. We do not disclose any information which contains personally identifiable information about you to any third party without your permission. However, we may use your information to contact you with newsletters, notices of enhancements to the site, etc. If you prefer not to receive such notices, you can indicate this decision in your user registration data.

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We may disclose information about you when we believe in good faith that the law requires it or for the protection of our legal rights. We may also disclose information in special cases when we have reason to believe that disclosing this information is necessary to identify, contact or bring legal action against someone who may be violating our Terms and Conditions, or in order to protect someone who we believe may be in danger or at risk of harm.

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Certain areas of our site, such as discussion boards, are public areas. Information you disclose in such areas becomes public information. You should exercise caution when deciding to publicly disclose your personal information.

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Because our site is a serious tool for crime prevention, it is not a place for minors. We do not allow anyone under the age of 18 to use our site.

Contacting Us Regarding Privacy Questions

If you have any questions or concerns about this Privacy Statement and our practices in collecting and using information, please contact us using the following mail address or e-mail address:

CitizenObserver.com, Inc.
325 Cedar Street
Suite 325
St. Paul, Minnesota 55101






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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:43 PM
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38. o jeez... don't let the old biddies in So. FL know about this..
You wouldn't believe how many called to turn in their neighbors for trying to cover up their roofs without a permit after the last hurricane.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:52 PM
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41. they already do, see post 35
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:46 PM
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39. No groups for my city...
jeez, tell on your neighbor folks, what a feeling.... This is fucked up...... :mad:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:50 PM
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40. I just submitted this story to this website...technovelgy.com
http://www.technovelgy.com/

They do stories about technovelgy that was in sci-fi movies that come thru.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:14 PM
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42. Remember the TIPS program..
I think CO is just a new reincarnation of that. Why was the ACLU all in an uproar then but not NOW!
http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/2629/1008055.html
Operation TIPS and the new mission for Neighborhood Watch flow out of Bush's State of the Union speech, where he urged every American to commit 4,000 hours, or at least two years of their lives, to national service. By executive order, he established the USA Freedom Corps as the umbrella organization for this effort.

"Through the USA Freedom Corps, he wants to help every American to answer the call to service by strengthening and expanding service opportunities for them to protect our homeland, to support our communities, and to extend American compassion around the world," says the usafreedomcorps.gov web site. The President is requesting more than $560 million in new funds in Fiscal Year 2003 to support the new initiative.

Freedom Corps covers the Peace Corps, as well as AmeriCorps and SeniorCorps, but even these last two groups will now have a security role. Both will be involved in "fingerprinting" so as to relieve overworked police officers, and AmeriCorps will be "creating `reserve service corps, in conjunction with states, to support homeland security throughout the country," according to the USA Freedom Corps Policy Book. (By the way, AmeriCorps will also support "faith-- based organizations.")

Operation TIPS and Neighborhood Watch are under a different section of Freedom Corps called Citizen Corps. The goal of Citizen Corps is "to engage citizens in homeland security," the handbook says. Citizen Corps Councils will be established in each community, and they will "include leaders from law enforcement, fire and emergency medical services, businesses, communitybased institutions, schools, places of worship, health care institutions, public works, and other key sectors."

In addition to a revamped Neighborhood Watch Program and Operation TIPS, the Citizen Corps consists of a Volunteers in Police Service Program, Medical Reserve Corps, and Community Emergency Response Teams. Citizen Corps "will be coordinated by FEMA," the web site says.

Bush's Freedom Corps has been a blessing for Neighborhood Watch Institute, based in Santa Fe Springs, California. Since 1982, the institute, a folksy operation, has been marketing the accouterments necessary for warning criminals that they are being watched. The organization boasts that its "complete line of crime prevention materials" is used by more than 1,500 police and sheriff agencies, local Neighborhood Watch groups, and homeowner associations. A basic kit includes handbooks for identifying suspicious criminal activity, stickers, signs, and decals. It costs about $125.

Shortly after September 11, the institute began offering "Homeland Security Street Signs," which notify the community and criminals that "all suspicious persons and activities are immediately reported" to local police officials. Bill Preciado, the manager of the institute, says that it came up with the idea for Homeland Security signs before the Office of Homeland Security was established. The institute is in the process of putting together a handbook advising people how to "identify terrorist activity in their neighborhoods," he says.

While "business went up immediately after September 11, it has been leveling off in the past few months," he says. Although he's heard about the new Justice Department Neighborhood Watch initiative and has sent an e-mail to the Department of Justice telling the agency about the company's services, his company "hasn't been contacted by any official government agency." Preciado is hopeful that the new interest and emphasis on Neighborhood Watch groups "will be good for business." .

Bill Berkowitz is a freelance writer covering rightwing movements. He is a regular contributor to Working Assets news site, workingforchange.com. Research assistance by Laura Ross.
http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/2629/1008055.html

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:20 PM
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43. Neighborhood Watch Citizens Guide...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:30 PM
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44. Here's a copy of one of their alerts... Shots fired
This is exactly like the Amber alert on the freeways. I knew that tactic would be used for MORE than just missing children.. Oh the slippery slope...
http://www.neighborsforneighbors.org/blog/_archives/2007/2
Wanted for Shots Fired
by Jon Rivers on Wed 28 Feb 2007 05:46 PM EST
Copy of a Citizen Alert sent out on Wednesday March 28th:

To register for free Citizen Alerts visit www.citizenobserver.com

E-13 Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts: District 13 is looking for a 2000 Honda Civic, color blue with a plate of Mass 13TB55. This vehicle is wanted for shots fired in the area of 337 Centre St, JP, Mozart Park area. Four suspects fired 4 rounds before entering the vehicle and fleeing the area. At this time there are no injuries associated with this shooting. Citizens observing this vehicle are reminded not to confront the operator or occupants. Please contact 911 if you should observe this vehicle.

Please click on the following link for complete details:

http://www.citizenobserver.com/alert_crime.jsp?id=535766
http://www.neighborsforneighbors.org/blog/_archives/2007/2
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:48 PM
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45. Whosarat.com A wesite that snitches on snitches . YEAH!
http://www.whosarat.com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/22/the_skinny/main2834752.shtml
New Web sites devoted to exposing the identities of informants who cooperate with the government are making federal prosecutors furious and prompting calls to limit public access to electronic court files.

According to The New York Times, the sites, like one called whosarat.com, post the names and mug shots of government witnesses, along with court documents outlining the plea agreements they made in return for more lenient sentences. Much of the data is obtained from files readily available on the Internet.

Last week, for example, whosarat.com posted information about a Florida man who agreed to plead guilty to cocaine possession but not gun charges in exchange for working in an undercover role to contact and negotiate with drug dealers.

Whosarat.com says it has identified 4,300 informants and 400 undercover agents since 2004. The site was started by a man named Sean Bucci, who was indicted in federal court on marijuana charges after an informant provided information to prosecutors.

The Times says the site was "initially modest and free, the seeming product of a drug defendant's fit of pique." It now charges between $7.99 for a week's access to $89.99 for a lifetime membership, which includes a free "Stop Snitching" T-shirt.

A Justice Department official, in a letter quoted by the Times, said these sites were set up "for the clear purpose of witness intimidation, retaliation and harassment," and pose "a grave risk of harm to cooperating witnesses and defendants."

The letter says that in one case, a witness in Philadelphia had to be moved and the FBI called in to investigate after information from whosarat.com was mailed to neighbors and posted on utility poles and cars in the area.


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:56 PM
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46. Famous snitches..
COOL'EH GUIDE TO THE SNITCHIN'EST
Deep Throat

Sure, he may have been a disheveled, senile, browntoothed old man when Mark Felt was finally revealed as the mysterious government informant who triggered the implosion of the Nixon Administration, but damn, the guy brought down Nixon. Not only that, he also indirectly inspired the title of the most famous porno of all time. DT apparently also stands for Double Threat. The closest snitching ever came to being heroic.


Judas

The man who snitched on Jesus. That’s some scandalous business. One isn’t supposed to rat out the Son of God and get away with it, but such was the Roman Empire back in the day. Some recent evidence has suggested that Jesus wanted him to snitch, but either way this was a bold move. Even if Jesus did tell you to set his capture and crucifixion into motion, would you have the gall to fuck with the Almighty’s son?


Andrew Chambers

This “concerned citizen” became a DEA informant in 1984 and put over 400 people in jail over the next 16 years. He was paid at least 2.2 million dollars over this period of time, having worked out an enviable deal whereby the DEA gave him a cash percentage of any seizures. A compulsive liar, even the DEA was forced to admit Chambers fibbed on the stand AT LEAST 16 times, sending people away for life while amassing a personal fortune.


Lando Calrissian

Yeah, sure, I suppose Lando didn’t have much choice but to go along with Vader, what with how Darth had already arrived at Cloud City before Han Solo landed in his precious Millennium Falcon, but still. It’s the principle of the thing.


Sammy “The Bull” Gravano

If you had spent years working with the Gotti crime family, watched dozens killed for disloyalty, disrespect, or simple bad manners, and made plenty of cash in the process, would you decide to rat on said crime family’s boss? The Bull did it and lived to talk about it on 60 Minutes, elevating the art of the snitch.


Aldrich Ames

This young boy from Wisconsin made it all the way into the CIA as a field agent. In 1985, he walked into the Soviet Embassy in D.C. and offered US secrets for money. In the end, Aldrich collected $2.5 million from the Russians, and his information led to at least 10 executions of U.S. sources. All 4 The Ca$h, man . . .


Ethel and Julius Rosenberg

They met in the romantic Young Communist League, married, and were famously executed by the U.S. government for providing the Soviets with nuclear secrets. Though their actual level of treason remains controversial, secret documents released in the 1990s revealed that Julius was a snitch indeed, while Ethel’s level of involvement is still unclear.


Linda Tripp

Linda, all the nose-hacking plastic surgery in the world cannot hide your shame, you nest-haired weasel! What species secretly tapes phone conversations with her “friend” Monica Lewinsky, then turns around and hands them over to Ken Star? That would be the beltway cameltoed snitch species.


Richard Johnson

When the reading public demands some dirt on who’s the biggest cokehead, slut, moron, or boozer, Richard of the New York Post’s Page Six gladly fills the order. On behalf of America, Mr. Johnson, thank you.


50 Cent

His dry-snitching on “Ghetto Quaran” got him shot those proverbial “9 times” and one of the people he named, “Haitian” Jack, even filed a lawsuit. 50’s subsequent lyrical attacks on Ja Rule and Murder Inc. namedropped enough people that the goverment used them in its racketeering case against Murder Inc. And, ironically enough, Murder Inc. beat the case in part by using 50 Cent lyrics and interviews to put holes in the prosecution theory that they were behind 50 Cent’s shooting. Guess that’s why they call him five-oh.


Elia Kazan

This famed, Oscar-winning director of Streetcar Named Desire and one-time Communist Party member named names of fellow entertainers to the House Un-American Activities Committee during the Red Scare, contributing to the blacklisting and investigation of colleagues in Hollywood and New York. In another display of character he also reportedly banged Marilyn Monroe the night she got engaged to Joe Dimaggio. When Kazan received an honorary Oscar in 1999, some reported hearing a grizzly Nick Nolte mutter, “He’s a god damn snitch!”


Coleen Rowley

This homely FBI legal advisor from Minneapolis threw a serious wrench in Georgie Boy’s gears when she wrote a memo to FBI Director Robert Mueller snitching on her fellow Minneapolitan Feds for being dimwitted and disorganized pre-9/11. Bush responded by shrugging his shoulders and wrinkling his nose.


Albert “Alpo” Martinez

He took over Harlem with Azie Faison and Rich Porter in the 80s, making millions off the crack boom. Eventually Alpo was making just as much money in DC with the help of the notorious hitman Wayne Perry. But all good things come to an end, Alpo not only murdered his partner “Rich Porter” but after being caught, snitched over on half the east coast to save his own skin.


Ana Cumpanas aka Sage

Long before Chris DeBerg annoyingly moaned about “The Lady In Red” dancing cheek to cheek, the original Lady In Red, a Chicago brothel owner who feared deportation back to her Romanian homeland, snitched on John Dillenger to the FBI. Dillenger later died of gunshot wounds outside the Biograph Theater, and The Lady In Red (who was actually wearing orange) ended up being deported anyway.



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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:01 PM
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47. So let's all sign up and bury them in "suspicious activity" reports, shall we?
There's still a few B*sh-lovers here in town-
I've really been meaning to start keeping a closer
eye on them anyway.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:05 PM
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49. Good idea...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:04 PM
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48. Plans to bring back neighborhood watch groups evokes outrage
In the Czech Republic...

http://www.radio.cz/en/article/91231
Plans to bring back neighborhood watch groups evokes outrage
<11-05-2007> By Daniela Lazarova
Listen 16kb/s ~ 32kb/s Neighborhood watch is said to be one of the most successful crime prevention initiatives ever. But a plan by the Czech Interior Ministry to establish neighborhood watches in this country has evoked public outrage.
'Pomocna straz VB', 1982, photo: CTKThe reason is simple: for most Czechs neighborhood watch groups are reminiscent of the so called "pomocna straz VB" - a network of civilians who assisted the former secret communist police by spying on their neighbors and reporting any suspicious events. In those days they wore yellow armbands and were regarded with suspicion and scorn by the neighborhood as they went about their business.
When it emerged that the Interior Ministry's reform plans included the setting up of neighborhood watch groups such as are active in Great Britain, the negative public reaction clearly indicated that the country is simply not ready for such a step. The idea was slammed not just by individuals who fear being harassed or spied on by neighbors with "special powers" but also by some politicians. Former Social Democrat interior minister Frantisek Bublan said that while he too had been aware of the existence of these voluntary watch groups in the West he had not for a moment considered introducing them here.
Frantisek Bublan"Creating a network of police helpers is really not something we want to do. That smacks of a police state and given the country's past experience it is simply not acceptable" Mr. Bublan told reporters. Polls conducted in the streets of Prague indicate that this view is widespread. In the face of heated opposition the interior minister back-tracked, saying that neighborhood watch groups were music of the distant future, something to be considered when the memories of the old days had faded. He tried to explain that such groups would be extremely useful in curbing thefts and robberies and in helping the police during times of crisis such as the 2002 floods. All of these arguments make sense - but at this point feelings are simply stronger than facts.
http://www.radio.cz/en/article/91231
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:29 PM
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50. I found a Christian who hates snitches
Maybe there is hope after all!

A NATION OF SQUEALERS, SPIES AND SURVEILLANCE
http://www.newswithviews.com/Betty/Freauf58.htm

By Betty Freauf

July 31, 2004

NewsWitViews.com

When I was growing up in a small Eastern Washington farm community, only people in small towns had telephone service. It was years before the farmers were actually served. I lived in town. Our phone was one of those brown, wooden boxes that hung on the wall with a handle on the side. If we wanted to talk to a neighbor, we had to crank the handle one long and two shorts or something like that. If we wanted to talk to someone not on our "party" line, we had to call the operator, who had the "telephone company" in her living room, and she'd connect them for us.

We had what we called "rubber neckers." They are the ones that would listen to our private conversations. We could hear them breathing on the other end and we were very careful not to say anything we didn't want spread around the countryside. As technology advanced and we got "private" lines, I thought those days were gone but I'm finding they were innocent compared to today's ability to "rubber neck".

We now have the "eye in the sky". The overhead satellites photograph and catalog each square inch of the earth several times a day with accuracy. They claim they can spot and identify the brand of a package of cigarettes lying on your driveway.

Children in the government schools are innocently encouraged to write in journals things of a private family nature and what the children may not write in their journals, they may share with peer counselors who then report to another authority. Matthew 10:21 says the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents and cause them to be put to death...

And then there are the chips in our pets, our clothing and on our vehicles, which help catch the thief who stole your car and the boss to keep track of your whereabouts.

Some people volunteer to be implanted with chips for medical reasons and now with the disappearance of so many young people, will they all be chipped next for security purposes?



Others who may not be so enthralled with this new electronic tracking system are criminals who can spend time out of jail with electronic bracelets but has the hundreds of new prisons and those bracelets restricting mobility stopped criminal activity? No. Crime is running as rampant as ever.

Our individual rights have gone up in smoke. We have become a nation of squealers, spies and surveillance.

And what the electronic gadgets cannot detect, there are always the self-righteous "do goody" people who want to help Big Brother out. They never see themselves breaking any laws but are quick to report anyone else. But James 2:10 says: For whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point, he or she is guilty of all. So what's a person to do? Ask God for wisdom and read your bible for the answer.

The "do gooders" are the ones who report false child abuse charges with immunity that destroy careers and reputations , tear families apart and force them into bankruptcy for all the costs involved in trying to defend oneself against such charges.

It was reported in February 2002 the White House under George Bush intended to use the Citizen Corp program to receive grant money and nationalize the Neighborhood Watch programs "to incorporate terrorism prevention into its mission."

We inventory our valuables for the authorities and we have block captains and Neighborhood Councils just like in Communist Cuba. Since we are discouraged from owning guns to protect ourselves, we turn to law enforcement and Neighborhood Watch groups. The Chinese Communist Party has representatives in every hamlet throughout the country which goes so far as to keep records of menstrual cycles of women. While guards watch over prisoners, a network of "village watchers" watch over neighbors. Whenever communists attain power, they build a society of universal suspicion resulting in universal fear. Prov. 24:28 says "Be not a witness against thy neighbor without cause and deceive not with thy lips."

But the latest I've heard about is a group based in Kansas for eleven years called "Mainstream Coalition." Their members go into houses of worship to "spy" on what the pastor, priest or rabbi may be saying from the podium that violates the 501(c)3 tax exempt status.

Carol McKnight from that organization was recently interviewed on a radio talk show. She claims while they are not monitoring anything as an official government agency and that the word "spy" is odious to her, she does admit their members purposely infiltrate houses of worship to see what is being said. Muslim mosques require a certain attire and then it's bottoms up so I wonder if they "infiltrate" them too?

Come into my web said the spider to the fly or Judas kissing Jesus as he betrayed him in the Garden of Gethsemane (Matt. 26:36-56) came to my mind as I heard her say she was amazed at how warm, friendly and loving the church people are to these "visitors". But does she wear an "S" for snitch on her forehead? No! The members are unaware that these people are there to cause them problems.

She accuses the talk show host of taking their visitations w-a-y out of context when he accuses her of reporting their activities to the I.R.S. She says their ONLY goal is not to be a snitch for the government but rather to raise awareness that the 501(c)3 I.R.S. law is being violated in many houses of worship. Her coalition supports the separation of church and state.

Now, when they find some house of worship "stepping over the line" according to their definition, will they simply go home, make a note in their personal journals and leave it at that? Only in your dreams. No, what they'll do is tip off some liberal journalist who will write a story which will end up on the A-P wire service and the I.R.S. will find out about it.

A July 2004 newspaper article said Jerry Falwell was accused of violating his tax status. It seems he wrote a newsletter encouraging his followers to support Gary Bauer's Campaign for Working Families with its goal of helping re-elect George Bush to the Oval Office.

The voters in the states of Oregon, Missouri, Louisiana, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oklahoma and Utah will have initiatives opposing the recognition of gay marriages. In Oregon, advocates of the ban turned in 240,850 signatures in five weeks -- a record breaking accomplishment. And the sample used to verify these signatures found 204,160 were legitimate voters -- more than twice the 100,840 required for a constitutional ban of same-sex marriages.

Can all the houses of worship involved in this feat be expected to find "visitors" attending their services?

Carol says, "No church has to be a 501(c)3 organization. They can opt not to be. They can do without their tax exemption and they can say virtually anything they want out of purview of the I.R.S."

So, if anything comes out of this spy operation, it may be that houses of worship will get rid of their tax exempt status which has fulfilled the intent of the law to muzzle pastors, priests and rabbis and that perhaps brought American to the state of total immorality today and will be the downfall of our nation.

Most everyone reading this article knows full well that such organizations as the YMCA, YWCA, Jesse Jackson and his tax-exempt Rainbow Coalition, as only a few examples, are not going to be targeted. Groups have filed complaints with the I.R.S. and the Federal Election Commission about The Reverend Jackson's illegal activities but nothing has ever been done. Bill O'Reilly on FOX has long harped about an audit of Jackson with no results.

In 2002 some congressman introduced the "Houses of Worship Political Speech Protection Act" which would amend the I.R.S. code "to permit churches and other houses of worship to engage in political campaigns" without the threat of losing their tax-exempt status. Whatever became of that bill?

Carol says Voter's Guides distributed to many houses of worship prior to an election must be palpable for the I.R.S. regulations. They must not appear to be endorsing or disparaging any certain candidate. The guides must be fairly general and broad based. The Voter's Guides with which I am familiar makes it very clear how candidates stand on moral issues so they probably would not pass the I.R.S. litmus test.

This election cycle is turning out to be one of the ugliest I've ever seen since I became a registered voter decades ago. Maybe it's time for the houses of worship to tell the I.R.S., and if I may borrow two words of the possible next first lady, take your tax exemption and "shove it"!

Rev. Martin Neimoller, German Lutheran pastor, was arrested by the Gestapo in 1937. He said, "In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was Protestant. Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Betty/Freauf58.htm


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