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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 04:56 PM
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Proposed New Forum: Peacemaking & Community
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 05:06 PM by IndyOp
As many anti-war posts as we post and recommend on DU. I don't see enough posts on "peacemaking" and I don't get many responses to the items I have posted in the past about peacemaker teams.

So, I am proposing a new forum where we can discuss ongoing efforts and strategies to create peace internationally and in our communities.

PLEASE suggest what you would like to see in a mission statement for this forum below! :hi:


What kinds of posts would be included? Well, for example:

U.S. Delegation Returns from Iran, Denounces CIA Covert Operations

A delegation of 14 Americans and two citizens of the Netherlands from the Fellowship of Reconciliation, the largest and oldest interfaith peace and justice organization in the United States, returns Wednesday, May 30th, from a successful two-week trip to Iran.

The delegation, the fourth sent to Iran by FOR in the last 18 months, spoke with everyday Iranians throughout the nation and conveyed the message that face-to-face dialogue and discussion, rather than threats and intimidation, are the only solution to the current crisis between Iran and the West.

The delegation.... traveled throughout the country. It visited cultural, religious, and historic sites in Tehran, Mosuleh, Anzali, Shiraz, Yazd, Kashan, Qom, Abyaneh, and Esfahan. Individual delegates delivered hundreds of handwritten messages of peace from ordinary Americans in their home communities to Iranians they encountered during their trip.

While in Iran, international media reported that the U.S. government had authorized covert operations against Iran. The delegation released the following statement on May 29th in response to this news:

"The Fellowship of Reconciliation delegation in Iran expresses our deep distress that President Bush reportedly has authorized CIA covert operations to destabilize the government of Iran. President Bush's decision to act secretly against Iran's currency and government came on the eve of historic conversations to begin in Baghdad May 28 between the governments of the two countries. Such an action undermines not only those talks, but also efforts of grassroots civilian diplomacy such as ours. In the absence of diplomatic relations, news of covert operations in Iran also creates further suspicion in the minds of Iran's authorities about the intentions of all U.S. citizens in their country, endangering the success and possibly the safety of visitors who come in earnest and as advocates of peace.

"For the last ten days, Iranians from diverse walks of life and parts of the country have warmly embraced the members of our delegation. As many Iranians have said to us, we want our peoples to be friends – now and in the future. They have emphasized their desire that our countries not go to war. They see as we do that the differences between our two governments regarding nuclear power and the two governments' roles inn the region, including in Iraq and in Israel and Palestine, require ongoing dialogue and negotiation above all else. The history of acrimony and distrust between the governments have provided ample fodder for misunderstanding, and the governments' commitment to dialogue needs to be firm, enduring, and uninterrupted by threats, illegal intervention, or attacks by proxy forces. The saber rattling and military exercises currently carried out by the governments of both nations send a message to our own peoples that war is a feasible "option." But we know that the children, men, and women of Iran whom we have met will be those who suffer the most from escalated military action and operations to punish Iran. For ordinary people here and at home, war is neither a solution nor an acceptable outcome.

"Our delegation and Iranians we met are not alone in calling for a peaceful resolution of these issues. The nations of the Gulf Cooperation Council -- Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United Arab Emirates -- have opposed U.S. military action against Iran. Qatar and the Emirates have refused the use of U.S. bases on their territories for such action, a brave policy that we applaud.

"We remember the covert actions of the CIA in Iran in 1953 that overthrew the elected government of Mohammad Mossadegh, and ask: When will the United States learn to respect the sovereignty of other peoples in the world? Iranians have said to us: 'We don't want outside interference, we want to make decisions for ourselves about our political processes.' We, the FOR delegation, affirm their desire, and urgently call on our elected representatives, the media, and our communities to support dialogue to address the concerns of both governments. We ask Members of Congress to respond to the recent invitation from the Iran's elected parliament to meet, and we publicly offer to help facilitate our Representatives' positive response."
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:03 PM
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1. k & r! Excellent idea!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:05 PM
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2. I'd hang out there!! Great idea!
:thumbsup:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:07 PM
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3. Cool - Have any suggestions for what we should put in a mission statement?
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 05:07 PM by IndyOp
What, specifically, the forum should be about?

:hi:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:22 PM
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5. Hmmm, I'll have to give it some thought.
Because my own background and perspective on these issues is religious--along the lines of Jim Wallis--I tend to think of ideas from that direction. But it needn't have that kind of slant. Which means I need to think about it carefully.

I promise I will.

Thanks for thinking of this!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:30 PM
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11. I am open to discussing peacemaking from religious communities --
I would LOVE to learn more about what I consider "social activist religious work" -- what I consider "God's work" making peace, healing the sick, caring for the poor and the vulnerable.

I've posted before about various Christian Peacemaker Teams activities and been disappointed to get few responses.

The Fellowship of Reconciliation mentioned in my OP is an ecumenical religious group.

So, we should, perhaps, include a statement in the forum mission statement that "we are open to discuss peacemaking efforts of religious and secular groups as well as those sponsored by government officials"....?

:hi:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:22 PM
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4. Great idea.
My brain is too tired to be coherent today. A mission statement might be something like:

A place for people to gather and discuss peace as a guiding principle in our lives, in our communities, in our nation, and in our world.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:23 PM
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6. Yeah, that 's good. Inclusive concise, well said. Thanks! nt
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:41 PM
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9. I like that. Short, simple, inclusive and too the point. I'd support that forum.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:32 PM
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12. agreed. n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 07:20 PM
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15. I like it! I've emailed the Admins to ask them to check this thread -
I think we've had enough replies that they will be willing to create a new forum.

:hi:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:36 PM
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7. You minx, you! ^_^
Well done, and took me by surprise.

Here's to peace... :hippie: :hi: :hug:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:37 PM
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8. K&R to the GP!
I'm terrible when it comes to trying to put together something like a 'Mission Statement', so I won't offer any suggestions.


Types of threads/posts? Perhaps posts like these? Let me know what you think...




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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:34 PM
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13. Yes! I love those threads about Nash & Waskow particularly, but
as Dr. King would say -- discussions of militarism, materialism/poverty, and racism/hatred of other's cannot be separated.

:hug:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:55 PM
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10. Suggestions......
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 05:55 PM by bobbolink
Active Listening, L'Arche Community ideas http://www.larcheusa.org/

Conflict resolution...

And others, but I just got a time warning... sigh....
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:43 PM
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14. excellent idea
n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 07:56 PM
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16. Ha! I am so there! What a great idea!
:toast:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:21 PM
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18. Cool beans! Thanks Sfexpat... (n/t)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:25 PM
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20. Have you checked with proud2blib? I betcha she'd enjoy this!
:hi:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:29 PM
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22. Done! Thanks. :-) (n/t)
:hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:53 AM
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27. Thanks for thinking of me.
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:04 PM
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28. I may have been thinking of the group, lol!
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:19 PM
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17. kick
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:25 PM
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19. What a place for a flame war!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:27 PM
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21. If you try to start a flame war in the peacemaking forum...

THAT WILL MEAN WAR!



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 08:52 PM
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23. Why am I hearing the Lovin' Spoonful?
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 12:21 AM
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24. kick
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:17 AM
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25. Yes, let's have this new forum. I would like to use it for...
discussion of local actions geared at any or all of the following:

coalition building
community currency
hand counting paper ballots
growing food/farmers' markets/food co-ops
co-op model health collectives
clean municipal power generation
peak oil transformation task forces
skill sharing

and in general the creation of parallel institutions that will help us through a peaceful revolution
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:29 PM
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29. Hey, Guv! It's good to read you.
:kick:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:51 AM
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26. yes - count me in
great idea
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:31 PM
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30. Ain't gonna study war no more
Oh yeah!

Sister Rosetta Tharpe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOmRm0-acJw

(gonna x-post to Political Videos!)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:53 PM
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31. Go Sister! Thanks GG! (n/t)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:30 PM
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32. kick
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:39 AM
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33. kick (eom)
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 06:31 PM
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34. I see more than 10 supporters.
Should this be a group by now?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 08:17 PM
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35. Thanks LWolf - I sent Skinner an email last weekend and
he asked me to email them again after they did the server maintenance on Tuesday and my work week got out of control, so I still need to email him back.

I bookmarked the thread so I can email everyone who responded to let them know when it is live.

Thanks for the reminder!

:hi:
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