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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:16 PM
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We are fighting "messianic death cults" over there so we don't have to fight them over here
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2201103.ece

US 'victory' against cult leader was 'massacre'

By Patrick Cockburn in Baghdad
Published: 31 January 2007

There are growing suspicions in Iraq that the official story of the battle outside Najaf between a messianic Iraqi cult and the Iraqi security forces supported by the US, in which 263 people were killed and 210 wounded, is a fabrication. The heavy casualties may be evidence of an unpremeditated massacre.

A picture is beginning to emerge of a clash between an Iraqi Shia tribe on a pilgrimage to Najaf and an Iraqi army checkpoint that led the US to intervene with devastating effect. The involvement of Ahmed al-Hassani (also known as Abu Kamar), who believed himself to be the coming Mahdi, or Messiah, appears to have been accidental.

The story emerging on independent Iraqi websites and in Arabic newspapers is entirely different from the government's account of the battle with the so-called "Soldiers of Heaven", planning a raid on Najaf to kill Shia religious leaders.

The cult denied it was involved in the fighting, saying it was a peaceful movement. The incident reportedly began when a procession of 200 pilgrims was on its way, on foot, to celebrate Ashura in Najaf. They came from the Hawatim tribe, which lives between Najaf and Diwaniyah to the south, and arrived in the Zarga area, one mile from Najaf at about 6am on Sunday. Heading the procession was the chief of the tribe, Hajj Sa'ad Sa'ad Nayif al-Hatemi, and his wife driving in their 1982 Super Toyota sedan because they could not walk. When they reached an Iraqi army checkpoint it opened fire, killing Mr Hatemi, his wife and his driver, Jabar Ridha al-Hatemi. The tribe, fully armed because they were travelling at night, then assaulted the checkpoint to avenge their fallen chief.

Members of another tribe called Khaza'il living in Zarga tried to stop the fighting but they themselves came under fire. Meanwhile, the soldiers and police at the checkpoint called up their commanders saying they were under attack from al-Qai'da with advanced weapons. Reinforcements poured into the area and surrounded the Hawatim tribe in the nearby orchards. The tribesmen tried - in vain - to get their attackers to cease fire.

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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:19 PM
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1. Unless you count the neocons as a messianic death cult.
:nuke:
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:25 PM
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2. Or the Christian fundamentalists n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:44 PM
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6. ...

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:31 PM
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3. Oh god -- I KNEW that bullshit cult story was a coverup for *something*!
Get the U.S. OUT of there NOW! :banghead: :cry:

sw
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Stu DeBeouf Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:35 PM
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4. Messianic Death Cult?...
THEE definition of modern organized Christianity...if not the entire history of the sect.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:37 PM
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5. messianic death cult = bush true believers
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:46 PM
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7. k& r -- I hope more people read this. (nt)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:54 PM
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8. THEN WHY DO WE HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING THEM OVER HERE?!?!?
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:10 PM
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9. yup the christian fundies are the biggest and most evil cult on this planet
Not only are they hypocrits they are morons and some of the worst people who think they can commit any crime and their god will forgive them,yah right.they worship money and sex but the sex they keep hidden away with their whoares that they have in some condo somewhere along with their porno tapes and cigars and whiskey
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:12 PM
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10. vote this to the great page!!!!!!!!!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:19 PM
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11. but our messianic death cults can
can kick their messianic death cult's ass

(in their fantasies)
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:22 PM
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12. Hmmmmmmm. The * Admin - always a day late -

2004
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:28 PM
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13. Sorry to tell you,
but there are plenty of apocolyptic cults right here in the USA--some keeping to themselves in their private compounds......
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