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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:06 AM
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What is a typical penalty for someone...
who does the exact same thing as Paris Hilton?

I'm not sure, myself, but have a feeling we'll get a wide array of responses.

Note: I'm not as wrapped up in the tabloid aspect as much as the "Equal Protection" aspect of it. I'm wondering how differently these "minor" penalties are treated with respect to who the offender is, and if there even is a common standard of law for a pretty darn common offense. Seems like Paris is a good of measure of privilege as anyone else.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:08 AM
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1. I was never given nor any of my friends
were ever given time off for "good behavior" just for showing up in court. Of course these were the "political" crimes of possession of marijuana.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:13 AM
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2. I know some people are permitted to serve their time on weekends
to avoid losing jobs or if they are women with small children at home.

Other than that, you booze, you lose.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:17 AM
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3. I'm wondering that too. I saw some attorneys on MSNBC who said she is getting a more harsh
deal than is typically given in her area for the same offense. The sheriff, for one thing, typically has the authority to release someone to house arrest, but in this case the judge forbade that.

I wish I could get a reliable answer --- I don't think PH should be treated any better than anyone else, but neither do I think she should be treated worse.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:34 AM
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5. I think her behavior in court was also a factor
Showing up late and basic last of respect. It's not good to piss off a judge when he's about to sentence you.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:36 AM
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6. No, it's not a good idea. But in general I favor a dispassionate approach that I think
means relying more on the standard and customary penalty.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:42 AM
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9. I tend to agree
I find this whole episode somewhat ridiculous, yet I'm compelled to keep reading about it. :)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:43 AM
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10. She was never treated like any other inmate.
She was put in a cell all by herself, no roommate, even though the cell has two beds. Considering that sheriff constantly complains the jail is overcrowded, I doubt the other inmates are getting cells all to themselves.
I think right now she is put into some sort of medical jail.
I frankly doubt anyone would care if some other inmate was crying or wailing over wanting to go home.

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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:05 PM
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15. Which might actually be cruel
For her.
I understand that they are isolating her for her safety, but for someone whose life revolves around being social, that is cruel. For most people, that is cruel.
I live in rural Wisconsin and have met a number of people who have gone to jail. For most of them serving sentences of her legnth, they are not kept in cells most of their waking hours. They socialize, watch television, and play board games.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:32 AM
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4. here is a good link from a lawyers web page on
DUI in Calif.

http://www.kandblaw.com/penalty_chart.html

Of course, Paris was arrested for driving on a suspended license, not a second or third DUI.

It would seem that her (45 days) is somewhere in between a 2nd DUI and 3rd DUI... that she only has to serve about half is standard for all offenders in CA, and likely a lot of other states, if she behaves herself in jail.

However, it also appears that many people are offered home arrest as an option, even for jail time of 45 days or more. I think the judge here is trying to "make an example" of Paris... because while it's true that if you can afford the best lawyers and such, you have "unequal access to justice", it's also true that any case that makes the news headlines, the judges are reluctant to "appear soft on crime" and hand out stiffer penalties to those than to non-headline cases.

So I think the whole rich spoiled brat part cuts both ways for Paris.

I, for one, wished the judge could have sentenced her to 1 year of house arrest at McMurdo Research Station at the South Pole, where her "community service" would have been doing useful things for those doing research there. Out of the public eye, away from her friends and entourage, money and fashion won't matter, and she can finally contribute something and feel good about herself.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:40 AM
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8. But that would have been cruel and unusual punishment for
those working at the Reasearch Station, and they've done nothing wrong.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 09:39 AM
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7. That "public" info about the planned party couldn't have helped..n/t
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:54 AM
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11. Here are some
Harvey Levinson TMZ stated on Fox and CNN. He researched
the Public Records in La. and the in usual circumstances
--No Jail Time

Judge Napolitana, Consultant at Fox News. says the original
sin in this case was the Judge giving her 45 days.
He too researched the Public Records in La and the Laws.

Geraldo Rivera--Gangbanger in LA who did the eact same
things a Hilton---Hilton has alraedy served more time

.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:09 PM
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12. IMO the Judge is a wack job and
the prosecuting attorney has political ambitions.

Oh, and one other thing, she is a female. So, put her in the slammer and throw away the key.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:12 PM
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13. What is she famous for except being pretty, blond, and female?
Apparently Hilton sisters have two brothers. You never hear about them in the news.
Yet Paris who certainly have not accomplish anything of value as far as I am concerned is constantly on the news.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:55 PM
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14. The existing prison population suggests another type of discrimination. n/t
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:06 PM
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16. Women receive longer/harsher sentences on average for
conviction of the same felonies as men and then serve more of their sentences. Everyone thinks it is the opposite.
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