Joe Lieberman

a tool of AIPAC? a Bushbot? or a self-absorbed, self-promoting, naysayer who grabs the limelight at any chance, and to hell with the constitution in the process?

Hard to tell. All I know is that I never understood Al Gore's selection, I was unhappier with Lieb's performance during that campaign, and I actually thought at times the Liebs did his best to sabotage the Gore election effort.

After he lost the democratic primary, I thought that we had gotten rid of a creep, a smarmy, unbelievable creep. But I was wrong. So I wonder. What doe his home state folk think about him now? I know that overall, congressional and senatorial poll numbers are only 10 points higher than Bush's, (but that is countered by individual senators polling higher in their home states).

Does anyone here know how low Joe's numbers are?

It will be a tale of degeneration and eventual degradation. I think at one point he was a pretty normal moderate, obviously with a few issues. But as he got seduced by the dillholes on the other side and his own inability to recognize how out of step with reality he was he got more and more deluded and, like I say, degradation is right around the corner.

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All those good democratic stalwarts hanging around, like Mitchell, for instance. I even had the absurd dream that he'd try to pick Nader to get him off his back. In retrospect, I think that was a bit of a pipe dream. Anyway, the media hated him, reamed him, and destroyed him even with Lieberman running. Imagine what he'd have gotten with Nader as a running mate.

How did that happen? I remember hearing the announcement, my mouth dropped open, and I said, who? He didn't learn very well from Clinton, who chose him.

which is fairly low considering he was around 70% in the state for a good decade or more, and also considering that he just won re-election.

and they are both wrong.

TRUE... but uncalled for.

I guess CT just doesn't poll their representatives as often as Wisconsin, Iowa, California, Kansas, Alabama, etc.

They ought to make a bumper sticker...Voted LIEberman. Thanks for nothing! The other 49 states.

that's all I can figure. I'm ashamed that he ever considered himself a Democrat and I'm doubly ashamed that the Democrats actually ran him on a Presidential ticket.

...( his base) and among Democrats who aren't paying attention.

Somewhere along the line he signed a contract with Mephistopheles that in exchange for fame and power, he would relinquish his soul.

He demurred to Cheney, let him get away with a big applause and laugh line about how "the government had nothing to do" with his wealth (although Halliburton is a notorious government teat hog). He unilaterally conceded Republicans' rights to count any and all military votes no matter how many rules they broke to have them counted.

Whoever thought Holy Joe was a good idea and convinced Gore of it should spend a year in solitary listening to nothing but Liebermans' voice.

He wants to end the debate on Gonzales by extending it? That doesn't pass the smell test.

Gonzales and the Republican Party have used DoJ to accomplish one thing - destroy the 2 Party process. Every real Democrat should know this and take this attack personally. Joe obviously doesn't consider himself a Democrat anymore. Why does Reid allow this guty to causcus with Democrats? These causcus's are also about legislative strategy.....I have no doubts that Joe is more than willing to share that with his Republican benefactors.

Kicking Joe out of the caucus and stripping him of his committee assignments is well deserved. The Democrats will maintain their majority status whether Joe is counted in the caucus or not. Kick his sorry, pompous arse out.

away as an unfortunate "neocon" pro-Israel quirk in an otherwise Dem-leaning man (like Bob Kerrey). But the Gonzo vote shows nothing but contempt and spite for both Democrats and the rule of law. He needs to go--this seals it for me. I also sincerely hope Reid is making overtures to consistently cross-over-voting Repubs to join our caucus.

That includes Bush, Bush 1, Reagan, DeLay, Gingrich, and Nixon.

I swear to god, I'd watch it happen and sell popcorn.