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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:17 PM
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Say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to the bastard!!! $245 BILLION MORE FOR WAR!
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 12:20 PM by Nimrod2005
Bush administration seeks $245B for wars

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16944672/
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:19 PM
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1. Is a buliion more than a brazillion?
Who cares anymore, the numbers are so big they are almost meaningless. IT'S JUST TOO DAMN MUCH MONEY, whatever the name for it is! :grr:
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:20 PM
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9. It is the same with a Z, sometimes after certain letters can a UI
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:19 PM
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2. . . .must. . .not. . .tease. . .headline. . .gaffe. . .
...he wants beef stock for war?

GAAAAAAAAHHH, I COULDN'T STOP MYSELF!!!

:P

Kidding, thanks for the heads up.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:20 PM
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6. It's a neologism - billions for bullshit. (English is a living language.)
:shrug:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:20 PM
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7. the headline I see says Favre is coming back
:P
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:22 PM
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11. Dumb move.....nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:22 PM
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13. I'm stunned.
Not.

Homeboy's been talking about "retiring next year" since winning the title in 1996.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:26 PM
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16. meh, if he wants to come back for another 6-10 season, whatever
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 12:26 PM by LSK
I guess he just enjoys his job too much.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:31 PM
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22. I watched Dan Marino down here, overstay his welcome...It was sad.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:43 PM
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25. Much better news, you have to admit.
Maybe not as good for Green Bay as the rest of the league...

Although, to be fair, Favre looked a lot better than the rest of the team. That 8-8 may have been 10-6 with the backup. Or worse.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:19 PM
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3. And Congress wil pony up OUR money, like the good little corporate lemmings they are.
:puke:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:29 PM
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20. Too bad we can't just give Halliburton the money and bring the troops home now
Sometimes I think we should just give Bushco 100 billion, say, " take this and go away" and see if they would take it. Of course we could have done the same with Saddam and saved mucho $$$....
Seems like the corporate welfare is reaching absurd heights..Boeing just reported record earnings as well...
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:19 PM
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4. and the games will now begin in full
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:20 PM
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5. don't worry some foreign bank will pay for it
and then we send the bill to our children and grandchildren?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:20 PM
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8. "Say YES to Halliburton." - Dick 'Five Military Deferments" Cheney
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 12:22 PM by SpiralHawk
"Smirk, smirk, sneer, sneer. Nothing like Massive War Profits
to gladden our slimey republicon livers (we don't have hearts)"

- Dickie Five Deferments
(Underling of Commander AWOL)

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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:21 PM
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10. Thank God!!!!
Thank God GWB practices "Voodoo Economics for the 21st Century"!

Otherwise, where the hell would all the money come from to fund all these wars?

Our country is in very good hands thanks to the supernatural powers of GWB! I am so assured. (between terrorist scares, anyway!)

-85% jimmy
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:24 PM
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15. Can you just imagine how many TAX CUTS for the rich it'll take to pay for this?
:sarcasm:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:22 PM
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12. Wasn't this number $100billion just yesterday?
Seems like this criminal admin is trying to double every number they "promise" after the fact.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:27 PM
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18. Yes, but they wanted to counter the upcoming resolution, this is high stakes politics at its best
This is war between Congress and the Executive!!! Who will vote on what now?????

I am telling you right now, those who will vote against the surge, but vote for this money, KNOWING that it is for the next years of war are assholes!!!

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:36 PM
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30. They are thinking ahead, knowing the 'surge' is horseshit and Congress will eventually withdraw $$$$
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:24 PM
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14. Pay for it with tax cuts for Exxon and Walmart
makes as much sense as invading Iraq when the teraists came from Saudi Arabia.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:26 PM
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17. Money Laundering
Thats what this seems like to me. Our tax dollars stolen and then given to corporations by this war-mongering pResident. Our money goes in and comes out in the pockets of his friends! This crap has to stop! Killing our kids and Iraqis to profit from this folly!! He cannot be impeached soon enough!
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samq79 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:29 PM
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19. 245 Billion...?
That's less than a quarter of the money needed to make sure kids in this country get an education, so they don't have to turn to the military to make sure they can survive. Just put that toward government support for higher education, and less people have to sign up for the GI bill in order to live that American dream we're always talking about.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:30 PM
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21. $$
"Iraq holds more than 112 billion barrels of oil, estimated reserves.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aairaqioil.htm

Using a conservative $40 per barrel (to account for the cost of drilling and production), that means their reserves are worth Four Trillion, Four Hundred Eighty Billion Dollars in todays dollars.

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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 11:53 AM
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28. reserves worth four trillion?
You mean the maximum amount of oil we could extract is $4 trillion?

Wouldn't it have been better to just pay LIST PRICE for all that OIL instead of imposing our WAR DISCOUNT approach to securing oil? When you put a dollar value on all the USA has spent in terms of human lives - 3100 enlisted, 700 mercs, 200-300 non American fighting forces, 600,000 Iraq collaterally killed and the suicidal loss of American honor and credibility and all the other EXTREMELY NEGATIVE REPERCUSSIONS that will be enjoyed by Americans all over the world FOR DECADES TO COME, wouldn't it all have been CHEAPER TO JUST BUY THE FUCKING STUFF AT FAIR MARKET VALUE?

In terms of a corporate business decision, isn't the CEO responsible for this going to GET HIS GOLDEN PARACHUTE CUT, and ADDITIONAL, PAY TRILLIONS in corporate fines for fucking up so badly? (Yeah I know corporations don't fine the shit heads that ruin their companies, they just pay them billions to resign!)

Aren't there formulas the airline industry uses for costing out the life of a person? How would that application of accounting for the Iraq War look to the boys in corporate accounting?

-85% jimmy
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:32 PM
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23. The Bas* wants 70 mil cut from Medicare/Medicaid. n/t
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:38 PM
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24. this will separate the lip-servers from the walk-the-talkers in Congress
if it weren't so tragic I would put up the "popcorn" smiley.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:46 PM
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26. isn't this money what they term "off-budget," . . .
i.e. it doesn't show up in the Federal budget and therefore doesn't contribute to the deficit, at least on paper? . . . or do I misunderstand the process? . . .
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Luckyduck Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:53 PM
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27. He has been emboldened
This is more money than he asked for last year.

Which part of 'no one believes you or wants this war' doesn't he understand.

IMPEACH HIM! He is beyond delusional!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:04 PM
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29. Shocks of Mighty!
Now the question in front of us is what will we the people do when the Democratic House and Senate go ahead and vote for this madness? You know that it's coming. A strong resolve to end the war is what propelled the Democrats into majorities back in November, and that anti war sentiment remains high throughout all sectors of the populace. Yet the message has become watered down, and is quickly going missing as the '08 election season seems to already hold sway on our so called leaders. Thus, as always, they are afraid to look "soft on terra" and thus equivocate, quibble, and do that standard bullshit balancing act, the better to cover their ass.

We know the outcome of all of this. Congress will approve the money. They might pass a watered down non-binding resolution condemning the war. If Iran comes to the fore, they'll jump into it with both feet. Yes, there are a few, precious few who walk the walk, but not enough to make a difference. Thus this war will drag on as long as we the people allow it. It is up to us, all of us, to stop it. Is it time to get out the pitchforks and torches, nod your head and say yes it is. It is the only way.

Congress will continue to fail us.

Shocks of Mighty.
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