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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:35 PM
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WSWS: A political bombshell from Zbigniew Brzezinski
A political bombshell from Zbigniew Brzezinski

Ex-national security adviser warns that Bush is seeking a pretext to attack Iran

By Barry Grey in Washington DC
2 February 2007

Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the national security adviser in the Carter administration, delivered a scathing critique of the war in Iraq and warned that the Bush administration’s policy was leading inevitably to a war with Iran, with incalculable consequences for US imperialism in the Middle East and internationally.

Brzezinski, who opposed the March 2003 invasion and has publicly denounced the war as a colossal foreign policy blunder, began his remarks on what he called the “war of choice” in Iraq by characterizing it as “a historic, strategic and moral calamity.”

“Undertaken under false assumptions,” he continued, “it is undermining America’s global legitimacy. Its collateral civilian casualties as well as some abuses are tarnishing America’s moral credentials. Driven by Manichean principles and imperial hubris, it is intensifying regional instability.”

Brzezinski derided Bush’s talk of a “decisive ideological struggle” against radical Islam as “simplistic and demagogic,” and called it a “mythical historical narrative” employed to justify a “protracted and potentially expanding war.”

“To argue that America is already at war in the region with a wider Islamic threat, of which Iran is the epicenter, is to promote a self-fulfilling prophecy,” he said.

Most stunning and disturbing was his description of a “plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran.” It would, he suggested, involve “Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks, followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure, then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in a ‘defensive’ US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.”


More at link: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/feb2007/brze-f02_prn.shtml
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:38 PM
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1. I just read a 500 page book he wrote on the Soviet Bloc
It was part of a class I'm taking. Let me just say: this man is very smart, and I'd listen to what he has to say. His book was just amazingly informative, and all I can say is I'm glad he was on our side during the Cold War and not the other side. We should take heed of whatever he might have to say on foreign policy matters.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:25 PM
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19. He called the fall of Soviet Union a good 5 years before it.........
happened. I remember on Larry King. I was shocked and he was dead on.

I never heard ANYONE predict that.

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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:46 PM
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21. This was insider knowledge
The reason he was spot on wasn't because he has a superhuman intellect or powers of prediction. It was beacuse he was personally responsible for many of the US policies of arming the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, designed to weaken the Soviet Union. Brzezinski knew what was about to happen, because he was among those who designed this policy.

You can thank him for the fall of Communism, kind of. You can also thank him for Bin Laden. But don't think of him as a dove. Brzezinski was to Afghanistan and the Soviet Union what the Neocons are to Iraq and Iran.

Check out his laterst book, The Grand Chessboard, which is basically a plan to ensure the US' domination over the rest of us on the unlucky outside. The infamous PNAC document reads like an executive summary of his book, including the "new Pearl Harbor" statement, which Brzezinski makes only a little more obliquely.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:40 PM
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2. Pretext to war with Iran, eh? That makes twice then, first was 9/11
...Impeach Bush/Cheney now
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:49 PM
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7. The unspeakable topic.
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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:43 PM
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3. If this happens democracy will die in the US
martial law will be declared. This may be the year in which our deepest fears of a full blown police state manifest.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:45 PM
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4. That's probably not an unintended consequence, either.
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 02:45 PM by redqueen
Two (ore more) birds, one stone.

Welcome to DU.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:45 PM
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5. I need to go change my underpants now.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:46 PM
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6. Have you seen Original Child Bomb?
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:11 PM
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12. UNDERPANTS
Does 'underpants' know this???
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:53 PM
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8. Boy, does he have them pegged or what?! I wonder if he reads DU?
He sounds like a DUER!
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:56 PM
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9. Hell, he probably wrote the whole screen play we have bit parts in.
Seriously, this guy is a major spook and set up the whole GRAND CHESSBOARD upon which so much we are now witnessing is being played out. Who the hell knows how deep his tendrils go but I believe he is representing a particular faction of the elite who is now shooting a very strong warning across the BushCo-Neocon bow.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:02 PM
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10. That strikes me as an insightful and informed guess.
Zbiggie is definitely one of the movers in a game that is bigger, deeper and older than the Neocons seem to suspect.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:18 PM
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15. Why, thank you!
I'll take that as a compliment from someone I respect.

:toast:
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:27 PM
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20. Anybody speak Polish? "Ben Laden i Zb.Brzeziński, lata 80-te"
Anybody speak Polish?


Ben Laden i Zb.Brzeziński, lata 80-te

Zbigniew Brzeziński twórcą Al-Quaidy. Udziały Busha i Ben Ladena w Carlyle'u
Usilnie wmawiane opinii publicznej kłamstwo (a i casus belli zarazem!) o związkach Ben Ladena z Husseinem każe przypomnieć o istnieniu jedynego takiego "łącznika", amerykańskiego zresztą: obydwaj byli wspierani latami przez CIA i rząd USA, m.in.również za pośrednictwem obecnego "konsula" Iraku, Paula Bremera, bliskiego współpracownika H.Kissingera (Iraq-gate), notorycznego zbrodniarza wojennego z Kambodży, Timoru Wsch., Chile, Afryki, Iraku, itd., mającego do 1938r. kontakty z Hitler-
jugend, a po wojnie poprzez akcję Paperclip (ściągania zbrodniarzy nazistowskich do USA) - z SS.

Reżim Husajna nie miał żadnych związków z Al-Qaidą i Ben Ladenem, o czym świetnie wiedziały agencje wywiadowcze, natomiast związki takowe posiadał G.Bush i Bush senior poprzez m.in. firmę Carlyle, Harken i.in, poprzez pakistańskie służby specjalne ISI (Mohamed Atta), współpracujące blisko od wielu lat z CIA oraz szkolone w Afganistanie pod egidą Brzezińskiego oddziały mudżahedinów.


Nie ma rodziny w USA, która miałaby bliższe powiązania i na tak wielką skalę prowadziła nielegalne transakcje hadlowe z rodziną Ben Ladena. Rodziny Busha i Ben Ladena prowadziły transakcje m.in. w Carlyle'u (private equity fund) - tzw."klubie byłych prezydentów". Carlyle Group (private equity fund) jest głównym inwestorem AeroSpace Defense oraz jednym z największych na świecie pośrednikiem koncernów zbrojeniowych i petrochemicznych. Jej udziałowcem był do niedawna Ben Laden. O' Neill z Wydziału ds terroryzmu FBI, który szykował w tej sprawie proces przeciw Bushowi sen. i jun. zginął 11.9. w ataku na WTC. Opierając się na b. solidnej dokumentacji prof. ekonomii M. Choussodovsky z Kanady twierdzi nawet, że atak na WTC był najprawdopodobniej "zlecony"; Mohamed Atta, szef komórki pakistańskiego wywiadu wojskowego ISI, ściśle współpracującego wiele lat z CIA, doskonale był znany FBI i służbom wywiadowczym USA. Brzeziński pod egidą Białego Domu, CIA oraz ISI współkreował i dozbrajał Al-Qaidę oraz afgańskich talibów.


http://www.irak.pl/full.html
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:54 PM
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22. It's about Bush, the Carlyle Group and the Bin Laden family
I'm Polish. Someone read Crain Unger's "House of Bush, House of Saud", and relates it in Polish. (I recommend that book very highly.)

Please see my other post above. Brzezinski did "create" Bin Laden, in the sense that he's basically the guy who designed the policy of arming the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, so that they could take on the Soviet Union. The US meddled in the Afghanistan war to give Russia its own Vietnam. The policy succeeded, weakening Russia so much that it started to collapse economically and was no longer a deadly threat to the freedom movements in Poland and other countries of the Soviet Bloc. It worked. Brzezinski was right. The cold war was won.

And now the US and the rest of the world are reaping the whirlwind.

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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:08 PM
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11. Are you a WSWS fan, too?
:hi:

It provides excellent analysis on matters from an international socialist perspective. I also love their arts review. Anyone who thinks DU is too leftist should check wsws ;)
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:16 PM
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14. DU "too leftist"?
LoL!

:hi:
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:12 PM
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13. Nice Chess Move by Z-Big
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 03:12 PM by C_U_L8R
Took the "strategy" right out of their grubby little paws.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:18 PM
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16. Check Autoranks's thread
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:20 PM
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17. Thanks for cross posting that link!
Most excellent thread.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:21 PM
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18. You're welcome
:D
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