OK, OK! Now, I'm On Board, Too! Here's How We Win in 2008! Who Else Is With Me?

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I just didn't have high hopes for any of our candidates. I'm not a Hillary-hater, but neither am I a supporter, and I know that she'll bring out the wingnuts in droves. Obama is cool, but I don't think he's got enough experience to win over a majority of voters (but then, what experience did the Chimp have?). I'd seen folks' "Gore '08" stuff and didn't think much of it, partially because he wasn't running, and because I figured that he, too, would draw down all of the RW haters and be immediately swift-boated. But in recent months, Al has become such a powerful figure in my mind, almost a moral force. All he has to do is increase the energy efficiency of his house and I'm there!

RUN AL RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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And he'll be ready to go. ;-)

:)

:D

:hug:

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If it came down to a race between Hillary Clinton and Popeye the Sailor Man....?
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the man with one eye should be President

Well Mr Gore Please stand up !!!!

Our constitution depends on it

Now how do we convince him?:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

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Fred Thompson finally comes in if Gingrich doesn't beat him to it. Gore (as a DU'er Posted a couple weeks ago is the "Best NON-Candidate" the Dems have ever had.

I just picked up his book tonight. And my RW Books-a-Million has it out on the FRONT SHELF with Political Books...but my Mainstream "Barnes & Noble" had is stashed away in the middle of the store.

Go figure. Seems the RW (in my area) might be more interested in Gore than the Mainstream Dems here.

I'm in a Red to Purple State.

GO GORE! Let the "RESTORATION" begin along about October! :hi:

:hi:

I expected to find it front and center when I walked through the door of B&N. No dice. I had to look in the regular Non-Fiction section.

I'm keeping my powder dry for Al.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdPcwwK5DII&mode=user&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bMDaX14PQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZYXllyaF0&mode=related&search=


And I'd like him to select Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for his running mate.

2 reluctant candidates who just couldn't resist the call of duty. dream ticket, for sure.

but you guys keep the faith and I'll wait to be proven wrong. Sorry. :shrug:

The flip answer is he's a God. Seriously, though we need a smart guy in the oval to clean this shit up. I don't blame President Gore for not really wanting that job, but I think he's got the experience and intelligence for the job. I see no one else in the field that has the grasp of the situation he has. I see no other candidate that has forseen the consequences of this war, save Kucinich, who would make an excellent Veep.

-Hoot

He's only ONE MAN...
Even if he does choose to run and is elected and ALLOWED TO SERVE THIS TIME, he's going to be dealing with all the leftovers from the Bush administration.
You know, the people who put Party Uber Alles, and to hell with everyone else?

The fustercluck that Bush is leaving for the next president, whoever he or she may be, is going to take at least one term to even START cleaning up.

I want to see Bush and his neocon PNAC buddies at the defendants' table in the Hague...which would be a start to cleaning up our reputation and street cred with the rest of the planet.

There's a lot of shit to be repealed, some re-organization to be done, I bet 2 years to get it on the right track.

Even if it takes more, don't you want the smartest guy we can field?

-Hoot

...and if Al was on the ticket he'd have my vote and whatever else I could contribute in the way of time, energy and money.

I'm just saying that he's being handed one HELL of a mess...and no guarantee that even a Democratic majority in the Congress and Senate will be of assistance.
The one thing about the Repubs is that they will work together, as a team- the term 'lockstep' ring any bells?

The Democrats have been demonstrating individual backbiting, shoving competitions and pissing contests for last six months.
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'Herd of cats' isn't in it...at least you can lead cats...
IF they like you, you have something they want, and you're going in a direction that they want to be going...

He's a stand-out.

someone claims Al Gore to be the Messiah?:shrug:

I'm there.

He won the popular vote in 1888, but lost in the electoral college and had to come back four years later to win his second term. Of course he benefited from Southern states actively suppressing the black Republican vote, so it's probably not the sort of "unfair loss" you want to get insensed about.

Um...

-Hoot

To be honest, Edwards is my back-up candidate, only if Al doesn't get in. But I've got my fingers crossed!

Edwards for VP

but I don't think he will.

To me, this is the real Al Gore. Strong, funny, a man you...not want to have a beer with...but to sit down and TALK to, and learn from.

I hope he runs. But if he doesn't, it's his choice. I know he'll keep fighting for this country.

He's always been real. It has been his surroundings those thirty years in DC that weren't which is why he is making such progress now out of it. Who the hell in his right mind would want to go back to that after tasting freedom with the ability to work on the issues dear to him at his own pace with his own resources?

maybe your constant harping in these threads wouldn't be so annoying if you changed your screen name to something more appropriate, like, "leave al alone".

I just asked a question, but as usual there is no answer. And Al Gore has been restored to the man he always wanted to be away from the beltway BS.

seems like a pretty personal mission. do you know him well?

and insist that you know what al gore thinks, and what al gore wants, and what al gore needs, it becomes our business. especially when you do it ad nauseum, in every flipping thread about him.
i really suggest that you either explain yourself, or take a cold shower. or get some pills. or something.

You are simply projecting because you think I spoil your "fun" here. Again, it;s none of your business and I owe you nothing. If you don't like my participating in threads, avail yourself of the options available here to not see it.

and your smug, I know what he needs bullshit.

You ain't changing one damn mind.

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But I've been saying that for ages. :hi:

sorry to say this, but that guy lost...

While I have great respect for Gore, and if he got in the race, at this point I'd vote for him, he better do something if he wants to run again. And he better live up to that picture, (although he could look a littel tougher...:) ). This will be a brutal election cycle, and although I was impresed w/him the first time around, he should have slapped bush silly w/the truth about bush...Al was too nice...:(
The GOP knows how to fight right out of the bottom of the barrel...the only way to combat that is w/the truth about them, the are the powest of the pow, and should be prtrayed as the bottomfeeders they are...

The more I've seen of Gore lately, the more I can't help thinking that he's just totally in a different league compared to the other candidates on both sides.

And I'm pretty certain that part of my Father's Day present tomorrow is going to be The Assault On Reason. So I can't wait to read it!

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There are several reason for that, some personal.

Should Al Gore really get in the race, and so far, much as I'd like to see it,
I still do not see it, my bet is he would LIKE to have Howard Dean, but will
instead pick Wes Clark. I'm fine with either one. Arkansas-Tennessee worked once
before, after all............

Next!

at the moment but that's ONLY because Al Gore has not declared. I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping he does at which point I would quit my job (OK, I don't actually HAVE a job) and work FULL-TIME for his RE-election. Sorry, Dennis, but that's the way it is.

You've hit the jackpot! Al is my ONLY choice. I'll pencil his name in as a write-in candidate if I have to. :)

Al Gore 2008!

I'll vote for whoever I want, and it sure as hell won't be Hillary I don't care which party she "claims" to be associated with. It's Al Gore or nothin baby!!! :)

Al Gore 2008!

Gore fits the bill. He's smart, he's got vision and he's passionate about it. I think we'd be able to trust him to lead us into a scary new future.

setting things right.

K&R for Al! Wes for VP! :kick:

Or just joining all the rest of the cheerleaders standing on the sidelines expecting him to "save" them? And what's with the old picture? You embarrassed to post one of him as he is now, which is distinquished? Or is it that many are simply still living in the past?


Al Gore In Turkey talking about the moral and ethical questions surrounding global warming with patriarchate Bartholomew and making a real difference rather than playing into sound bites.

'i will work my fingers to the bone" "i will donate every dime i can" "put up the bat, sir" "where do i sign up" "i will put my children in foster care" stuff like that. that does not sound like waiting to be saved. it sounds like dying to get to work on the huge job ahead of us.

He's just a man. And the next President of the USA.

The other declared candidates have their finer qualities, but none has convinced me they're close to being as right for the times we face as our Mr. Gore.

If he doesn't wish to run, he should have thought of that before he made us all desperately want him to. Our problems are too big to take a back seat to the wishes of any one person, even if that one person is Al Gore himself.

Are you serious? Sounds a bit angry to me. I hope he has protection if he ever comes out and really says no. So this will be the revenge for him not running? FORCING him into it?

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I realize that if you have to explain it, it probably wasn't a great joke. At the same time, I am reminded of Stephanie Miller's riffing on a certain subset of liberals who lack humor and have a stick someplace.

Still, I do want Mr. Gore to realize that our country and the world need him, much more than they need any of the people who've so far declared.

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i got it.

I can only imagine the poor saplings that get plugged into the earth by the crushing heavy-handedness.

i don't know about other states, but in illinois, write in votes are not counted unless the candidate has filed a notice of intent to run as a write in candidate. i have no idea what that process is exactly, maybe there is a way for a citizens committee to submit such, but i don't think so.
so- in theory it is a great idea to write him in, but in practice, in illinois, no one will even see those votes except the pollworkers.

if this is to be a serious cause, that'll need looking into...

FYI can't write in Gore unless he files an intent. You can only write in "official" write-ins. Maybe by then, though, he will have filed.

inasmuch as I live in CA.

I was thinking that if there was a great grassroots movement with people writing him in at the primaries, if he doesn't declare, might be the only way he will run.

I hope he will declare though, there is much to be done.

It's a matter of using resources well. Many of us are trying to select a candidate to support for the primaries in our states. We have to get started on their campaigns now. We need to start donating money now. The money spent on the campaigns of Gore, Obama and Edwards draw a lot of attention to the Democratic party and Democratic stances, but it won't be there for the national campaign. If Gore stepped in, many people would switch from the other three candidates to back him. But Democratic funds and energy are limited. Once committed to another candidate, the money will not be available to Gore. Gore needs to get in or announce he absolutely will not run. It is not fair to party activists to keep everyone on hold too long. I'm not saying he has to announce today. But, to be fair, he should announce for sure in or before early fall 2007. Of course, maybe his private polls show he will win the primaries even if he doesn't announce, organize or make any effort to reach individual voters and activists before the primaries take place.

campaign season. he rightly believes that the current situation, where people are almost constantly campaigning and raising money is bad for our democracy. i agree. he is preventing the rush to coronation that occurred in the last cycle. campaigns are supposed to be about ideas, about debate, about the electorate being listened to, not talked down to. that is what al accomplishes by holding out- he is keeping the process open. keeping the dialog open. because he is a smart cookie, and he doesn't play the games.

I had my doubts about Gore as recently as a year ago (2000 election and his perceived "wooden" persona etc.), but he has convinced me that he is exactly what this country needs. If he is really intelligent, however, he wouldn't want to run!!! I mean who wants to clean up the shit at the monkey house after 8 years of occupation by the Chimp?? It will be a thankless job, whoever is elected President in '08 will have a huge mess to inherit. But, if someone has to clean house, Gore is probably the best suited for the job. He'll need a HUGE shovel, however!!

i don't know about other states, but in illinois, write in votes are not counted unless the candidate has filed a notice of intent to run as a write in candidate. i have no idea what that process is exactly, maybe there is a way for a citizens committee to submit such, but i don't think so.
so- in theory it is a great idea to write him in, but in practice, in illinois, no one will even see those votes except the pollworkers.

--IMM

He's just a DLC shill like the Clintons. Back in 1988 when he ran he was considered a conservative corporate Democrat, and now he's the big liberal hero? Give me a break.

Tell me a bit about what made Gore conservative corporate and who considered him that; because I never did. And I won't bother trying to defend him to you - it would be a waste of my time.

Gore, along with Bill Clinton, was one of the founders of the Democratic Leadership Council, which blamed the loss of the 1980s elections on old style liberals, and argued for moving policies to the right, and seeking more corporate funding for their elections.

As a member of the DLC, me supported Bush's awful No Child Left Behind legislation, he spoke if favor of some degree of social security privatization, he criticized Bush, Sr in 1991 for not going further into Iraq in Gulf War 1 and overthrowing Saddam Hussein, which would have got us into this quagmire 12 years earlier than it did.

In 2000, he announced he supported using money and native Iraqi guerilla groups to overthrow Saddam Hussein, and though he criticized the way that Bush set about going after Hussein in 2003, he did not question the objective; note in 2002 he favored military action in a speech to the Council of Foreign Relations.

As the Democratic candidate for the 2000 election, he selected Joe Liebermann as his VP.

As Vice President, he supported the raising of social security payment taxes in the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Bill. He supported the NAFTA and CAFTA agreements responsible for the destruction of the Mexican small farmer, jumpstarting the current illegal immigration crisis from Mexico. He supported the welfare reform (welfare destruction) policies of the Clinton administration, which even Reagan and Bush, Sr. didn't touch, and won more votes from Republicans in Congress than Democrats. He authored a National Performance Review criticizing government as inherently inefficient and advocated privatization of many government services (shades of Reagan and later Halliburton, anyone?)

He, along with the DLC, favors some degree of social security privatization, and favors health care reform for only children and the poorest of the country, and is not an advocate for a single payer universal health care system.

But oh, he's an environmentalist. Like which of the Democratic candidates running now isn't?

repeatedly and forcefully against the Iraqi invasion and occupation.


Published on Friday, November 15, 2002 by the Associated Press
In Surprising Shift, Gore Says He Favors Single-Payer Health Care System
by Will Lester

WASHINGTON – Noting that 40 million Americans now have no health insurance, Al Gore says he now favors "single-payer" national health coverage, a proposal that would require a massive change in the health insurance system.

I think we've reached a point where the entire health care system is in impending crisis. I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that we should begin drafting a single-payer national health insurance plan.

With single-payer coverage, money to pay for health care – such as insurance premiums and tax dollars – would be collected by a single agency, which would then pay for comprehensive coverage for all citizens.

more.... http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1115-07.htm

I wasn't an admirer of his then, but I am now.

I considered Gore the more Conservative of the 2 and I was really disappointed when he became the running mate.
It also seemed in the 2000 primaries that Gore was the most conservative and I was really disappointed with Lieberman
as a running mate. I guess people can change but I'm still not sure about Gore. If he doesn't have the spark to run, why
make him. I'm supporting Edwards at this point with Obama or Clark as a running mate.

That's all I see here. I think if all of those so in love with him here really cared they would discuss his current work and vocally work here to mobilize people to the cause of solving the climate crisis... but they don't. All the same crowd here does is political campaigning even against his own words and his words on this crisis are ignored for the most part except when they can be used to further a political agenda. But hey, that's politics for you.

the shovel you tediously crack over our skulls.

And politics? Welcome to the real world, we want to transform politics as well.

But just go skipping through your magical fairyland, your leaderless world of buttercups and forest glens while real human monsters wrestle power away with the stroke of a pen.

You better wake up to that one too, sister-woman. That's another clarion call you might take a minute or two to dwell upon.

Which is why the media and the right-wingers are scared shitless of him. We shouldn't BE in this mess in the first place, he should be the president.

The secret Cheney/Pentagon government think they can get away with anything. Remember the Kennedys? Cleaning up Bush/Cheney's mess means reigning in the neocons and the war profiteers and taking on the oil companies. Not any of the democratic candidates are prepared to really go against them so they must lie to us and to them just to stay active in politics. I wouldn't tell the money guys what I was going to do until I did it.
The fascists have taken over they just call themselves by another name but they are easily spotted because they are wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
Gore is the best, strongest, most intelligent and bravest non-candidate we have. Our best offense and defense for saving our democracy and our constitution. I pray for his safety

If Gore isn't elected, I'm 100% in favor of a torches and pitchforks style revolution to take back what's left of this country.

One election regardless of who is "elected" is not going to reverse what has happened.

We, the People, will just have to let the powers that be that we won't allow any trouble to him without HUGE CONSEQUENCES.

Notice, nobody has to lecture me and tell me to vote for him if I know what is good for me. I WANT to vote for him.

He's the one.

Whatever it takes I am there!

And that is -- had he run in 2004, he would have won and we would have been spared four years of Dubya. Can I put that aside and vote for him this time ? I'm working on it.

He now has a national constitutency that is broad based and not dependant on the inside the beltway model.

My only reservation is his reluctance to endorse impeachment. On that he's taken the party line.

And there is no military industrial complex in place this time.

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What could be better?

I would like to see Gore/Edwards. That would be perfect symmetry. They both had their elections stolen by the crooks. Kerry doesn't count because he conceded at 8:30 am the next morning before all the votes in Ohio were counted. But Gore with almost anyone else would be a dream ticket. Maybe he needs to choose someone as liberal as he so he would be assassination proof.

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:)

Run, Al, run!

Come on, Al! Run, Al, Run!

There's my prez.

Thank you, David Zephyr, for giving us another YESSSSSSSSSS!

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/seafan/2

Run Al Run!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Liberty without love is chaos.

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Unstoppable!!!

(!!)

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I came back to my PC today after a peaceful Sunday to find the surprising and positive responses above.

Thanks to all who weighed in. I had no idea as many felt the same way. I'm glad I am not alone.

:)

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:hi: and thanks for the thread.


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