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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 10:58 AM
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This looks like a military ship to me
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 11:00 AM by Patsy Stone
Can someone offer any idea of why it's been circling, verrrry slowly, off the coast of Miami Beach for the past couple of hours, getting progressively closer each time?



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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 10:59 AM
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1. Maybe its the coast guard....
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:02 AM
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4. Coast Guard is white and orange.
But I thank you for the response.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:08 AM
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14. You would easily be able to tell, even from that distance and in the haze, if it was Coast Guard


They are always white, with that distinctive red stripe at the bow.

Looks like one of these:

An Arleigh Burke class
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:17 AM
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28. In fact, looking at it again and comparing it with the photo i posted above...
It certainly looks exactly like an Arleigh Burke class Destroyer. Look at the little bump up from. The gun, just like in my pic above. Plus, look how there is separation between the two structures aft of the main structure, just like the one above.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:28 AM
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35. It's definitely an Arleigh Burke class Destroyer.
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 11:30 AM by speedoo
Good work finding that photo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer

Burke was CNO while I was on active duty. I served on a WWII vintage destroyer, ancient relative to these.

On edit, that wiki article is informative. The USS Cole was in this class.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:29 AM
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36. Thanks for the info
I appreciate it. :thumbsup:
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:36 AM
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41. Maybe they are running drills?
I know up here near CentCom the planes fly out at times.. The other day a large black helicopter flew over my roof... Scared the crap out of me... they are so loud.

I remeber thinking, damn that thing is loud, and then thinking--it must be horrible in Iraq listening to these all the time. They are quite large, loud, and intimidating.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:06 PM
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54. Only drill I could think of in that location...
would be shallow water sonar drills.

But they could do that in lots of places, instead of this where there is so much other traffic. No, I dont's think it's any kind of drills.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:39 AM
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44. Yep. An Arleigh Burke class destroyer. Its possible activities include ...
... drug interdiction, shake-down following repair, crew shake-down and training, or signals intelligence. Of these, I'd guess the latter is most likely - possibly in combination with one of the other two objectives. It's entirely possible that they're monitoring and attempting to locate more precisely radio communications signals. That class of destroyer is the most electronically sophisticated and, with upgrades, is favored by the CIA/DIA/NSA for off-shore intel activities.

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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:16 PM
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50. I was thinking along those lines too, if it isn't simply waiting for dock space..
at the Port of Miami. (Isn't the Port pretty full on Sundays with cruise ships? Seems to me when i used to live there, they all emptied out of POM later in the day on a Sunday)

I was thinking maybe they are calibrating some equipment, using signals perhaps from MIA or Miami Center in conjunction with satellites.

Of course, i might be completely full of shit and have no clue what i am talking about. A more likely scenario!
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 10:59 AM
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2. Tracking enemy subs?
:nuke:

;)

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:01 AM
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3. It looks pretty close to shore and yes it is a military vessel
...Where on Miami Beach was the picture taken? Are you in a high rise?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:02 AM
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5. Yep
Fifteenth floor. I'm in the north end of Miami Beach.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:03 AM
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6. they're scoping out babes on the beach with high powered binocs.
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 11:04 AM by KG
'check out the hooters on that blonde on the 15th floor!'
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:06 AM
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11. I was waving at them
How did you know? Are you on board? :)
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:09 AM
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17. the CPO wants you to wiggle your behind a bit...
:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:14 AM
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23. Done!
FYI: I was the one with "Juicy" written across my ass.

:hi:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:16 AM
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25. thanks for doing your part to keep america safe!
:)
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:31 PM
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59. LOL!
That was my first thought.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:04 AM
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7. looks like a destroyer or frigate
possibly a light guided missile cruiser,nothing unusual I would'nt think.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:05 AM
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9. babes on beach
would be my guess too ;o)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:08 AM
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16. That's the helicopters.
We say that all the time when thy buzz the beach.

:rofl:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:06 AM
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10. Even if it's circling? Is that normal? nt
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:08 AM
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13. I'm thinking it's routine
But it's rare to see them circle and stop. Not to mention, I can't see a number, or name on it.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:10 AM
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18. Destroyer, I think.
USS Arleigh Burke (DDG 51) was commissioned on this date. She is 142 meters (465 feet) in length and has four gas turbines turning two shafts. She was named for the Navy's most famous destroyer squadron combat commander and three-time Chief of Naval Operations, Arleigh Burke was the most powerful surface combatant ever put to sea.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:22 AM
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31. It looks like a destroyer to me. Once when boating on the LI Sound, I was literally up close and
personal to one that looked like this.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:05 AM
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8. The circling is what creeps me out. Passing through might be unnerving,
but circling is very creepy.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:06 AM
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12. And now, it's just sitting there.
Not moving. The Port of Miami is in the other direction, also.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:08 AM
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15. I'm a desert dweller so I have no idea! It just seems odd that it would be that
close.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:13 AM
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22. Yes
We're used to seeing them sail by, out much further. Thanks!
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:13 AM
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21. They know you are up there with that demon pot.
"You're on the pot again, aren't you? You're going to get us arrested smoking the pot and we're gonna lose the house!"
(Comedian Keven Meany's mom)

he he.

Port of Miami might be south of you but Port Everglades is north of you and so is Port Canaveral.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:16 AM
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26. Damn!
My tax dollars at work! Hoist by my own "potard".

When they started this, they were out way too far to have come from Port Everglades, and Port Canaveral is a possiblity of course, but they're just sitting there, and they're creeping me out.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:17 AM
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27. Your not to far from Port Everglades.
When I lived on Miami Beach in the early 90's, I saw them quite a few times.

Why today I have no clue.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:48 AM
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48. I feel that way about helicoptors that circle my neighborhood instead


passing over. creepy.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:10 AM
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19. obvious answer: TERRORISTS!
PANIC NOW!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:12 AM
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20. In this town?
Probably more like some poor Cuban or Haitian rafters, mistaken for terrorists.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:26 AM
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34. still, the patriotic reaction is to PANIC NOW
you never know...
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:30 AM
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38. I'm too lazy.
One of my fatal flaws.

:)
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:37 AM
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42. Code Red?
:scared:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:15 AM
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24. I'm going to guess it has something to do with drug interdiction
Maybe they are hunting for a sunken vessel. Or some contraband that got tossed overboard from a smuggler's boat.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:19 AM
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29. Those would be done by the Coast Guard, surely
and detection of a sunken vessel would be by a small boat with a side scan sonar array.

Maybe these guys are taking a bunch of rich GOP donors from Palm Beach out for a boat ride at taxpayer expense.

Other than that, it's some sort of training deal for monitoring a shoreline.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:27 PM
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52. Actually the regular Navy does a lot in that regard
A retired CPO recently told me a story of how his ship stopped and boarded a Mexican fishing boat. Intel was pretty strong that the boat had a large shipment of drugs in its hold. They had to use explosives to blast apart the frozen catch--the result was several tons of fish puree, but no drugs.

The Navy had to pay the fishermen for the destroyed cargo and the ship's crew had to clean up the mess. Apparently that kind of stuff is pretty routine.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:36 PM
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53. I know it is outside the 12 mile limit
but close to shore it was always the Coast Guard, at least in New England.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:22 AM
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30. Very strange. Couple of things I can see...
First, it appears to be close enough to the beach to be out of the Gulf Stream, which would be pushing it north. Also, that close, it's out of the shipping channel.

One reason it could be sitting there is to wait for dock space to open up either in Miami or Ft. Lauderdale. But the question is, why, since there is still a major Navy base up in Jacksonville, right? And Key West is even closer, there used to be a Navy facility there.




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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:25 AM
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33. Those trees are the beach.
I'm four blocks from the beach, and that shot is from the balcony. I don't know where they're supposed to be, but I wish they would go there. They're ruining my view on a beautiful Sunday afternoon.

Thanks.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:36 AM
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40. Patsy darling can I come and party with you?
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 11:39 AM by seemslikeadream
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:40 AM
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45. Sweetie!
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 11:45 AM by Patsy Stone
Of course! Clinky! :toast:

:rofl: Mo Gaffney is a riot.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:24 PM
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51. When I lived in Ft. Lauderdale it was common to see military ships
Heck, once we even saw the carrier JFK! Talk about HUGE!!! They use dock space in Ft L....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:25 AM
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32. The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:34 AM
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39. I vaguely remember that movie!
I think it was funny. . .

(Getting old sucks.)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:45 PM
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60. It was a very funny movie
Alan Arkin: "Emergency, everybody to get from street."

Despite being set on the fictional "Gloucester Island" off the coast of New England, the movie was actually filmed on the California coast near Mendocino and in Noyo harbor, Fort Bragg. Because the movie was filmed on the west coast, and the sun rises in the east, the famous dawn scene at the beginning of the movie had to be shot at dusk. Funny, the odd facts old farts can remember without really trying ;).
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:30 AM
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37. Looks like a Sunday morning GOP brunch fundraiser
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:39 AM
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43. Looks like an Arleigh Burke Class guided missile destroyer
It's probably just a US Navy ship doing a few practice drills in the shallows. I probably wouldn't have given it a second look, but I've always lived on the coast. Seeing Navy ships out there is second nature for me.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:47 AM
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46. Thanks!
We see them a lot too, along with the helicopters and jets, but it was just a bit weird to see it sitting and not moving, then making sharp turns, sitting and not moving again.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:48 AM
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47. I'd like to thank everyone here.
You've all provided more information than I could have hoped for.

DU: :yourock:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:16 PM
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49. Sunday cruise?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:12 PM
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55. Most likely it's waiting for a pilot or clearance to bring it into port.
Probably a Miami port call.

-Hoot
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:55 PM
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56. My vote goes to sub-thread starting with post #6 n/t
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:03 PM
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57. It's an Arleigh Burke Class DDG (Guided Missile Destroyer)
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:11 PM
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58. I would agree
based on the silhouettes used in the U.S. Navies ship identification training manual. http://static.scribd.com/docs/jrl4uazljbrbk.pdf
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