"WAHHH!!! But their signs aren't in ENGLISH!"

i guess it was a problem when the germans did it too?
















no irish need apply.

I guess they didn't believe in the pc multinational stuff back then.

direct pictorial evidence of american/german cultures and the english and german languages existing side by side in public printed materials.

it is laughable the way people say that all the immigrants came here and learned the language. There are cemeteries in Wisconsin where all the tombstones are in German. One of the big proponents of English Only was a congressman from WI named Toby Roth. He spoke with a German accent. There were German language newspapers in most cities.

Spanish on this continent than English?

Edit: Jamestown's date is 1607. Columbus was 1492. Does anyone have better dates?

I say the second language should be Italian, Polish, German or Ukrainian before it ever is remotely spanish in those areas...

for example. And of course in the West, Spanish was here first.

Look at the place names on the North Carolina coast. Manteo, Oriental, etc. And the ponies on the Outer Banks have DNA proving that they are direct descendants of Spanish horses.

St. Augustine in Florida is the oldest continuously occupied city in the United States. Settled by the Spanish. Before Jamestown. Waaaaay before Plymouth Rock.

lol

I didn't know that. :hi:

I'm sending this link to my mom. She lives for her horses - rescue palominos. She'll love this!

The first words spoken by Columbus after landing in the New World were, "Hey Y'All! Come look at this!"

:rofl:

A'ane (Aane, A'ananin), Abenaki (Abanaki, Abinaki, Abenaqui), Abnaki-Penobscot, Absaaloke (Absaalooke, Absaloke, Absaroke, Absalooke, Absarokee, Absaroka), Achumawi (Achomawi), Acjachemen (Acjachemem, Acjachamen), Acoma, Agua Caliente, Adai, Ahahnelin, Ahe, Ahtna (Ahtena, Atna), Ajachemem (Ajachemen, Ajachamem, Ajachmem), Akainawa, Akawaio (Akawayo, Acawaio), Akimel O'odham, Akwa'ala (Akwaala, Akwala), Alabama-Coushatta, Aleut, Alutiiq, Algonquians (Algonkians), Algonquin (Algonkin), Aliklik (Alliklik), Alkansea, Alnobak (Alnôbak, Alnombak, Aln8bak), Alsea (Älsé, Alséya), Amalecite, Andaste, Anishinaabe (Anishinabe, Anishinabemowin, Anishinabeg, Anishinabek, Anishnabay), Aniyunwiya, Antoniaño, Apache, Apalachee (Appalachee, Apalachi), Applegate, Apsaaloke (Apsaalooke, Apsaloke, Apsaroke, Apsarokee, Apsaroka), Apwaruge (Apwarugeyi, Apwarugewi), Arapaho (Arapahoe, Arrapaho, Arrapahoe), Arawak, Arikara (Arikari), Arkansas, Asakiwaki, Assiniboine (Assiniboin), Atakapa, Atfalati, Atikamekw (Atikamek, Attikamek, Attimewk), Atsina, Atsugewi (Atsuge, Atsugeyi, Atsukeyi, Atsuke), Araucano (Araucanian), Atzinca (Atzinteco, Atzintec), Ayisiyiniwok, Aztec,Babine, Bahwika (Bhawika), Bannock, Barbareño, Bear River, Beaver, Bella Bella, Bella Coola, Beothuks (Beothuck, Betoukuag), Bettol, Biloxi, Black Carib, Blackfoot (Blackfeet), Blood Indians, Bode'wadmi, Bora, Cabanapo, Caddo (Caddoe), Cahita, Cahto, Cahuilla, Calapooya (Calapuya, Calapooia), Calusa (Caloosa), Carib, Carolina Algonquian, Carquin, Carrier, Caska, Catawba, Cathlamet, Catlotlq, Cayuga, Cayuse, Celilo, Central Pomo, Chahta, Chalaque, Chappaquiddick (Chappaquiddic, Chappiquidic), Chawchila (Chawchilla), Chehalis, Chelan, Chemehuevi, Cheraw, Cheroenhaka (Cheroenkhaka, Cherokhaka), Cherokee, Cheyenne (Cheyanne), Chickamaugan, Chickasaw (Chikasha), Chilcotin, Chilula-Wilkut, Chimariko, Chinook, Chinook Jargon, Chipewyan (Chipewyin, Chippewyin), Chippewa, Chitimacha (Chitamacha), Chocheno, Choctaw, Cholon, Chontal de Oaxaca, Chontal de Tabasco (Chontal Maya), Choynimni (Choinimni), Chukchansi, Chumash, Clackamas (Clackama), Clallam, Clatskanie (Clatskanai, Clackstar), Clatsop, Cmique, Coastal Cree, Cochimi, Cochiti, Cocopa (Cocopah, Cocopá), Coeur d'Alene, Cofan, Columbia (Columbian), Colville, Comanche, Comcaac, Comox, Conestoga, Coos (Coosan), Copper River Athabaskan, Coquille, Cora (Corapan), Coso, Costanoan, Coushatta, Cowichan, Cowlitz, Cree, Creek, Croatan (Croatoan), Crow, Cruzeño, Cuna, Cucupa (Cucupá, Cucapá), Cupeno (Cupeño, Cupa), Cupik (Cu'pik, Cuit), Dakelh, Dakota, Dakubetede, Dawson, Degexit'an (Deg Xit'an, Deg Hit'an, Deg Xinag), Delaware, Dena'ina (Denaina), Dene, Dene Suline (Denesuline), Dene Tha, Diegueno, Dine (Dineh), Djimaliko (Djimariko), Dogrib, Dohema (Dohma), Duhlelap, Dumna, Dunne-za (Dane-zaa, Dunneza), Eastern Inland Cree, Eastern Pomo, Ecclemachs, Eel River Athabascan, Eenou (Eeyou), Eskimo, Esselen, Etchemin (Etchimin), Etnemitane, Euchee, Eudeve (Eudebe, Endeve), Excelen, Eyak, Fernandeno (Fernandeño), Flathead Salish, Fox, French Cree, Gabrielino (Gabrieleño), Gaigwu, Galibi, Galice, Garifuna, Gashowu, Gitxsan (Gitksan, Gitsken, Giklsan, Gityskyan), Goltsan, Gosiute (Goshute), Gros Ventre, Guarijio (Guarihio, Guarijío), Gulf, Gwich'in (Gwichin, Gwitchin), Haida, Haisla, Halkomelem (Halqomelem, Halqomeylem), Han (Hän, Hankutchin, Han Hwech'in), Hanesak, Hanis, Hare, Hatteras, Haudenosaunee, Havasupai, Hawaiian, Heiltsuk, Heve, Hiaki, Hichiti, Hidatsa (Hinatsa), Hinonoeino, Hitchiti, Hocak (Ho-Chunk, Hochunk), Hochelagan, Holikachuk, Holkomelem, Homalco, Hoopa, Hopi, Hopland Pomo, Hualapai, Huarijio (Huarihio, Huarijío), Huelel, Huichol (Huichola), Huichun, Hupa, Huron, Hutyeyu, Hwech'in, Illini (Illiniwek, Illinois), Inca, Ineseño (Inezeño), Ingalik (Ingalit), Innoko, Innu, Inuktitut (Inuit, Inupiat, Inupiaq, Inupiatun), Inuna-Ina, Iowa-Oto (Ioway), Iroquois Confederacy, Ishak, Isleño, Isleta, Itza Maya (Itzaj, Itzah), Iviatim, Iynu, James Bay Cree, Jemez, Juaneno (Juaneño), Juichun, Kabinapek, Kahwan, Kainai (Kainaiwa), Kalapuya (Kalapuyan, Kalapooya, Kalapooia, Kalapooian, Kalapooyan), Kalihna (Kalinha, Kalina), Kanenavish, Kanien'kehaka (Kanienkehaka), Kalispel, Kansa (Kanza, Kanze), Karkin, Karok (Karuk), Kashaya, Kaska, Kaskaskia, Kathlamet (Katlamet), Kato, Kaw, Kawaiisu (Kawaisu), Kechan, Kenaitze (Kenai), Keres (Keresan), Kichai, Kickapoo (Kikapoo, Kikapu), Kikima, Kiksht, Kiliwa (Kiliwi, Ko'lew), Kiowa, Kiowa Apache, Kitanemuk, Kitsai (K'itsash), Klahoose, Klallam, Klamath-Modoc, Klatskanie (Klatskanai, Klaatshan), Klatsop, Klickitat, Koasati, Kolchan, Konkow (Konkau), Konomihu, Kootenai (Ktunaxa, Kutenai), Koso, Koyukon, Kuitsh, Kulanapo (Kulanapan, Kulanapa), Kumeyaay/Kumiai, Kuna, Kupa (Kupangaxwichem), Kusan, Kuskokwim, Kutchin (Kootchin), Kwaiailk, Kw'al, Kwakiutl (Kwakwala), Kwalhioqua, Kwantlen, Kwapa (Kwapaw), Kwedech, Kweedishchaaht (Kweneecheeaht), Kwikipa, Kwinault (Kwinayl), Laguna, Lakhota (Lakota), Lakmiak (Lakmayut), Lassik, Latkawa, Laurentian (Lawrencian), Lecesem, Lenape (Lenni Lenape), Lillooet, Lipan Apache, Listiguj (Listuguj), Llaamen, Lnuk (L'nuk, L'nu'k, Lnu), Lokono, Loucheux (Loucheaux), Loup, Lower Chehalis, Lower Coquille, Lower Cowlitz, Lower Tanana, Lower Umpqua, Luckiamute (Lukiamute), Luiseno, Lumbee, Lummi, Lushootseed, Lutuamian, Macushi (Macusi), Mahican, Maidu, Makah, Makushi (Makusi), Maliseet (Malecite, Malécite, Maliceet, Malisit, Malisset), Maliseet-Passamaquoddy, Mamaceqtaw, Mandan, Mangoac, Mapuche (Mapudungun, Mapudugan), Maricopa, Massachusett (Massachusetts), Massasoit (Massassoit, Mashpee), Mattabesic Mattole, Maumee, Matlatzinca (Maklasinca, Maklatzinca), Mayan, Mayo, Mengwe, Menominee (Menomini), Mescalero-Chiricahua, Meskwaki (Mesquaki-Sauk, Mesquakie), Metis Creole, Mewoc, Miami-Illinois, Miccosukee, Michif, Micmac (Micmaq, Mickmack, Mi'gmaq), Migueleño, Mikasuki, Mi'kmaq (Mikmaq, Mikmak, Mikmaw, Mi'kmaw, Mi'kmawi'simk, Mikmawisimk, Míkmaq, Míkmaw, Míkmawísimk), Miluk, Mingo, Minqua, Minsi, Minto, Miskito (Miskitu, Misquito, Mosquito), Missouria, Mitchif, Miwok (Miwoc, Miwuk), Mixe, Mixtec (Mixteco, Mixteca), Mobilian Trade Jargon, Modoc, Mohave, Mohawk, Mohegan, Mohican, Mojave, Molale (Molalla, Molala, Molele, Molel), Monache (Mono), Montagnais, Montauk, Moosehide, Multnomah, Munsee (Munsie, Muncey, Muncie), Muskogee (Muscogee, Mvskoke), Musqueam, Mutsun, Nabesna, Nabiltse, Nadot'en (Nadoten, Natooten, Natoot'en, Natut'en), Nahane (Nahani, Nahanni, Nahanne), Nahuat, Nahuatl, Naklallam, Nakoda (Nakota), Nambe, Nanticoke, Nantucket, Narragansett, Naskapi, Nass-Gitxsan, Natchez, Natick, Naugutuck, Navajo (Navaho), Nawat, Nayhiyuwayin, Nde, Nee-me-poo, Nehiyaw (Nehiyawok), Netela, Nevome, New Blackfoot, Newe, Nez Perce, Niantic, Nicola, Niitsipussin (Niitsitapi), Nimipu (Nimiipuu, Nimi'ipuu, Nimi'ipu), Nipmuc, Nisenan (Nishinam), Nisga'a (Nisgaa, Nisgha, Nishga, Niska, Nisk'a), Nlaka'pamux (Nlakapamux, Ntlakapamux, Ntlakapmuk, Nklapmux), Nomlaki (Nomalaki), Nooksack (Nooksak), Nootka (Nutka), Nootsack (Nootsak), Northeastern Pomo, Northern Carrier, Northern Cheyenne, Nottoway, Nsilxin, Nuooah, Nutunutu, Nuxalk, Nuxwstlayamutsen, Nxak'amxcin, Oaxaca Chontal, Obispeño, Ocuiltec (Ocuilteco), Odawa, Ofo (Ofogoula), Ogahpah (Ogaxpa), Ohlone, Ojibwa (Ojibway, Ojibwe, Ojibwemowin), Oji-Cree, Okanagan (Okanogan), Okwanuchu, Old Blackfoot, Omaha-Ponca, Oneida, Onondaga, O'ob No'ok (O:b No'ok), O'odham (Oodham), Opata, Osage, Otchipwe, Otoe, Ottawa, Pai, Paipai, Paiute, Palaihnihan (Palaihnih, Palahinihan), Palewyami, Palouse, Pamlico, Panamint, Panoan, Pantlatch (Pantlach), Papago-Pima, Pascua Yaqui, Passamaquoddy, Patuxet, Patwin, Paugussett (Paugusset), Paviotso, Pawnee, Peigan, Pend D'Oreille, Penobscot (Penobscott, Pentagoet), Pentlatch (Pentlach), Peoria, Pequot, Peskotomuhkati, Picuris, Piegan (Piikani, Pikani, Pikanii, Pikuni), Pima, Pima Bajo, Pipil, Pit River, Plains Indian Sign Language, Pojoaque, Pomo (Pomoan), Ponca, Poospatuck (Poosepatuk, Poospatuk, Poosepatuck), Popoluca (Popoloca), Porcupine Indians, Potawatomi (Potowatomi, Pottawatomie, Potawatomie), Powhatan (Powhattan, Powhaten, Powatan), Pueblo, Puget Sound Salish, Puntlatch (Puntlach), Purisimeño, Putún, Quapaw (Quapa), Quechan, Quechua, Quilcene, Quileute, Quinault, Quinnipiac (Quinnipiack), Quiripi, Raramuri (Ralamuli), Red Indians, Restigouche, Rumsen, Runasimi, Saanich, Sac, Sahaptin, Salhulhtxw, Salinan, Salish, Samish, Sandia, Sanish (Sahnish), San Felipe, San Ildefonso, San Juan, Sanpoil, Santa Ana, Santa Clara, Santiam, Santo Domingo, Saponi (Saponey), Sarcee (Sarsi, Sarsee), Sastean (Sasta), Satsop, Savannah, Sauk, Saulteaux, Schaghticoke (Scaticook), Sechelt, Secwepemc (Secwepmec, Secwepmectsin, Secwepemctsin), Sekani, Selkirk, Seminoles, Seneca, Seri, Serrano, Seshelt, Severn Ojibwe, Sextapay, Shanel, Shashishalhem, Shasta (Shastika, Shastan), Shawnee (Shawano), Shinnecock, Shoshone (Shoshoni), Shuar, Shuswap, Sierra Chontal, Siksika (Siksikawa), Siletz, Similkameen, Sinkiuse (Sincayuse), Sinkyone, Sioux, Siuslaw, Skagit, Skicin, S'Klallam, Skokomish, Skraeling, Skwamish, Slavey (Slave, Slavi), Sliammon (Sliamon), Sm'algyax, Snichim, Snohomish, Songish, Sooke, Souriquois (Sourquois), Southeastern Pomo, Southern Paiute, Spokane (Spokan), Squamish, Sqwxwu7mish (Sqwxwu7mesh), Stadaconan, St'at'imcets (St'at'imc, St'at'imx, Stl'atl'imc, Stl'atl'imx, Stlatlimc), Stl'pulimuhkl (Stlpulmsh, Slpulmsh), Stockbridge, Sto:lo, Stoney, Straits Salish, Sugpiaq (Sugpiak), Suquamish, Sulateluk, Susquehannock, Suwal, Swampy Cree, Swinomish, Tabasco Chontal, Tachi (Tache), Tahltan, Tagish, Tahcully, Taino, Takelma (Takilma), Takla, Taltushtuntede (Taltushtuntude), Tamyen, Tanacross, Tanaina, Tanana, Tano, Taos, Tarahumara, Tataviam, Tauira (Tawira), Teguima (Teguime), Tehachapi, Ten'a, Tenino, Tepehuan (Tepehuano, Tepecano), Tequistlateco (Tequistlatec), Tesuque, Tetawken, Tete-de-Boule (Tetes-de-Boules), Tewa, Thompson, Tigua, Tillamook, Timbisha (Timbasha), Timucua, Tinde, Tinneh, Tiwa, Tjekan, Tlahuica (Tlahura), Tlatskanie (Tlatskanai), Tlatsop, Tlicho (Tlicho Dinne, Thlingchadine), Tlingit (Tlinkit), Tohono O'odham, Tolowa, Tongva (Tongvan), Tonkawa, Towa, Tsalagi (Tsa-la-gi), Tsattine (Tsa Tinne, Tza Tinne), Tsekani (Tse'khene, Tsek'ehne), Tsetsehestahese, Tsetsaut (Ts'ets'aut), Tsilhqot'in (Tzilkotin), Tsimshian (Tsimpshian), Tsinuk, Tsinuk Wawa, Tsitsistas, Tsooke, Tsoyaha, Tsuu T'ina (Tsuut'ina), Tualatin, Tubar (Tubare), Tubatulabal, Tukudh (Takudh), Tulalip, Tümpisa (Tumpisa, Tümbisha, Tumbisha), Tunica, Tupi, Tuscarora, Tutchone, Tutelo, Tututni, Tuwa'duxqucid, Tuwa'duqutsid, Twana, Twatwa (Twightwee), Uchi (Uche, Uchean, Uchee), Ukiah (Ukian, Uki, Ukia), Ukomnom, Umatilla, Unami, Unangan (Unangax), Unkechaug (Unquachog) Upper Chehalis, Upper Chinook, Upper Cowlitz, Upper Kuskokwim, Upper Tanana, Upper Umpqua, Ute, Vaniuki (Vaniuqui), Varijio (Varihio, Varijío), Ventureño, Virginian Algonkin, Wabanaki, Wailaki (Wailakki), Wailatpu (Waylatpu), Walapai, Walla Walla, Waluulapam, Wampano, Wampanoag, Wanapam, Wanki (Wangki), Wappinger, Wappo, Warijio (Warihio, Warijío), Warm Springs, Wasco-Wishram, Washo (Washoe), Watiru, Wazhazhe, Wea, Wenatchi (Wenatchee, Wenachee, Wenachi), Wendat, Weott, Western Pomo, Whilkut, White Clay People, Wichita (Witchita), Wikchamni, Wilewakiute, Willapa (Willopah), Winnebago, Wintu (Wintun), Wishram, Witsuwit'en (Witsuwiten, Wits'uwit'en, Wets'uwet'en, Wetsuweten), Wiyot (Wi'yot, Wishosk), Wobanaki, Wolastoqewi (Wolastoqiyik), Wyandot (Wyandotte), Wynoochie, Yakama, Yakima, Yaquina (Yakwina, Yakona, Yakonan, Yakon), Yavapai, Yawelmani, Yaqui, Yinka Dene, Yneseño (Ynezeño), Yocot'an, Yokaya (Yokaia, Yakaya), Yokuts (Yokut, Yokutsan), Yoncalla (Yonkalla), Yowlumni, Ysleño, Ysleta del Sur, Yucatec Maya (Yucateco, Yucatan), Yuchi (Yuchee) Yuhaviatam, Yukaliwa, Yuki (Yukian), Yuma, Yupik (Yu'pik, Yuit), Yurok (Yu'rok), Zapotec (Zapoteco), Zia, Zimshian, Zoque and Zuni.

:)

Thanks for posting these...:thumbsup:

i love history too.

that's why i know anti-mexican people are full of shit and historically ignorant. they have a long line of hateful progenitors who paved the path for them to continue the quest for excellence in vileness.

Full of shit is correct. They don't fool me either. :)

you mean they wuddn't speekin murcan back yonder?

I'm sure the Dobbists want it take off.

except the mexicans.

sarcasm.

lol

Like my ancestors, who left Finland for Amerika, to find a better life.

Now, I'm thinking they should have stayed!

and grew up in Rogers Park, which back in the early days of the last century had a largish population of immigrants from Luxembourg.

Most of the parents sent their kids to the school with German nuns, where they would be educated in German.

My grandfather, on the other hand, had studied at the Sorbonne and so had seen a bit more of the world than most. He decided to break with the Old World and so sent his kids to the school taught by Irish nuns and in English. My grandfather was considered odd by many in his community.

Everyone in the Parish was Irish except us! :)

The suburb I live in now has tons of Irish bars (Guinness :beer: :D )and lots of people with Irish surnames...as is mine.

Yesterday, I was in the local appliance dealer's store buying two new air conditioners. The salesman looked up my surname from last year's AC purchase and there were lots of people listed with the same last name. And it is not one of the more common Irish names.

I don't think there are any O'Reillys living there any more. Things seem to move pretty fast here in the SF Bay area.

my father was from texas, we lived in a neighborhood which at the time had lots of polish, german, and czechs.

oh, and don't forget the italians.


that was around cermak and western, i'm no worse for wear by having been exposed to MULTIPLE ethnicities, languages, and cultures.


mostly the grandparents of families retained their old ways. but you still had organizations and social clubs of various ethnic groups.

because he was lucky enough to pretty much have found the streets here paved with gold. When my mother was a kid, they had housekeepers, gardeners, even a chauffeur because "Pop" had done well in the painting contracting business. Unfortunately, he had sold most of his real estate and invested heavily in the stock market before he died in May of 1929. You can guess the rest....

and you really want to know - learn the language. It's really not that hard. The people who complain the loudest about store signs in Spanish would never patronize those stores anyway - even if the signs were in English. Most people do not REGULARLY patronize businesses that operate outside their own culture. The sign "problem" is more simply based on people's own fears of displacement, "occupation" and change. It will pass, but probably not very soon. At least, not until the next migration and the language in question is say... Arabic, or some such thing.

Very different than waiving the Mexican Flag at an anti American Union Worker rally.

plus the german flag has changed many times since the 1800s.

people fly foreign flags at all kinds of ethnic events/parades. st. patrick's day ring a bell?
and what's anti american about unions?

is Anti-American.

hey, but that's the market in a global economy.

what kind of union jobs are mexicans "stealing?"

doesn't that comprise one of the pillars of the classic mexican ethnic stereotype? thievery?

but i forgot, the other classic mexican ethnic stereotype colors them as "lazy."

The Decorah Posten was a Norwegian language newspaper published in Decorah, Iowa, from the mid-1800s to the 1960s and was distributed all throughout the midwestern states. As with all groups of immigrants and their families, the original Norwegian immigrants from the Old Country continued to speak Norwegian, maybe picking up a few English phrases. Their children, 1st generation Americans born to immigrants, spoke both languages, Norwegian and English, fluently with their English having maybe a touch of Norwegian accent. Their offspring, 2nd generation Americans, spoke mostly English, retaining only a few words and phrases of the language of their ancestors. The 3rd generation offspring spoke only English. I works that way with every single group of immigrants and their American-born offspring, no matter where they originally came from. I am one of that 3rd generation.

The only constant is the xenophobia that never ends from the beginning of the country on...

Who were loudly and vocally complaining about all the signage being in French ....... IN FRANCE!!!! :crazy:

I guess it's that Anglophone sense of entitlement. :nopity:

I'd like sooooo very much to borrow these examples. . .

immigration trends.

World War One killed all that fremdspreche. No kraut-speak was allowed in schools or on the street. This affected whole communities of beer-loving individuals and families in Ohio and Pennsyvania.

All of these people now speak zilch other than English.

i wonder why people maintain that this could never possibly happen with mexicans.

The more things change...

perspective, but it's just the same old xenophobia.

:kick: