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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:58 PM
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I'm watching SiCKO
I've never had any love for insurance companies, but if after this movie comes out, Congress does nothing to stop this abuse - every last single one of them need to be dragged out of their offices and thrown in the street. Even the freshmen.
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Old Vet Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:05 PM
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1. Cant Wait...........
Enjoy!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:09 PM
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2. It's hard to enjoy
:(
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:11 PM
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3. Better yet...
They and their families need to be denied their current cadillac health care packages unless and until every singe one of their constituents has an identical single-payer, universal access health care program -- free of charge and paid by a single tax-funded government agency -- including full medical with no deductions; full pharmaceutical with no copays; full vision coverage with no out of pocket costs; and full dental care, with no ridiculous $1500 yearly cap on coverage.

Simple as that. It's the best way I can think of to get their attention, and the only one that actually hits them where they live. Of course, their campaign "contributors" will probably offer to pick up the costs in return for voting to keep the status quo, but that would probably constitute an illegal use of campaign funds and the FEC may be able to bust them on it. Either way, the prospect might scare them enough to vote for such a radical bill and against their pals in for-profit medicine.

Thoughts?


wp
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bedpanartist Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:11 PM
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4. the only way that will happen
is if mobs actually threaten or do drag them out into the street.

Of course, this would take a rebellion among our globalist Robocop military industrial protectors of those who would oppress mothers and babies.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:13 PM
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5. Don't hold your breath.
I'm convinced the system is completely broken.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:14 PM
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6. If they are in the street near me
I will violate my vow of nonviolence. As an uninsured RN of 20 years duration, I have enough rage against those bastards on two separate fronts to hurt them very badly. I will not kill them, but I will make absolutely certain they suffer every indignity the for profit system has managed to heap upon every sick and/or uninsurable person out there in the past 30 years.

Add to them all the defeatist Congressmen over the past 40 years who were afraid somebody would call them socialists if they expanded Medicare the way it was always meant to be expanded from its beginning.

Add Harry and Louise, those two uninsured actors who defeated Hillarycare, a bad plan but at least a baby step to universal health insurance.

Throw in every radio and TV ranter who has been lying over the years about how the French and Canadian systems are run.

I won't see this one. I'm already angrier than I want to be. However, people do need to see it, especially if they think an insurance company cares a fucking thing about getting them well if they get sick.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:15 PM
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7. I watched it last night - it was awesome.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:38 PM
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8. On this, and a whole host of other issues,
I see people rant and rave, howl and threaten, jump up and down and shake their fists, but what changes? What changes?
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:48 PM
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9. I'm waiting for the DVD. Sorry, but I don't steal from others.
To each his own.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:51 PM
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10. Your righteousness is blinding. lol! I can't wait.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:56 PM
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11. Michael is cool with people downloading his movie
It's more about the message, and he's doing fine.


Sorry that just blew up in your face.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:19 PM
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16. He said that about F9/11. I don't know where he stands on Sicko
But I do know he said profits are going to charity.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:46 PM
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17. He's on video saying that he's fine with it
I agree that if you do enjoy someone else's labor, you should pay for it. That's why I'll buy a ticket for a show online, regardless of whether or not I see that show.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:04 PM
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23. link please
link?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:12 PM
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26. dig it up youserlf
I'm typically more hesitant to help people who call me a thief
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:28 PM
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31. I didn't call anyone a thief
Please don't start an international incident over it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:00 PM
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20. There it is!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:18 PM
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12. I just watched the beginning few minutes.
I will be watching the whole thing tonight. I am steeling myself for the experience. I do not expect entertainment.

Oh, I am just counting the femtoseconds until this thing premeirs. The resultant firestorm, at the Average Joe level is gonna be something. I am expecting a societal shift right up there with The Beatles.

Of course, the pigs who are presently gorging themselves at the healthcare trough will deafen us with their squealing...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:39 PM
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13. And that's just one family, that kind of stuff is happening every day
while CEOs of these HMOs have salaries up near the billion/year mark. One guy had 1.6 billion in compensation. How many people would that treat?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:04 PM
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22. This is one thing about the war in Iraq that freaks me out. We could have
Universal Health Insurance for everyone in the country with the money spent.

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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:31 PM
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32. So you think lots of people will go see it?
Because honestly I don't see anything happening at all. Mostly only people who already agree with it will see it, and the world will go on as always.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:50 PM
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14. I gotta see that
Because I'm LIVING IT.. :)
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theNotoriousP.I.G. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:51 PM
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15. We watched it and cried
It actually changed my partner's mind about moving to the US. Great movie. However, the French couple MM tried to describe as middle class, who earned 8000 bucks or some such a month and lived in a huge apartment and drove 2 cars? I don't think so.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:47 PM
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18. Yeah, they each make twice as much as I do
I drive an old car, live in a tiny apartment with no kids and saving up for things still takes far too long.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:59 PM
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19. I watched it too and it was incredible. After watching it, my son asked if we could all move
to France! I can work most anywhere, except I need a working post office and the French hold no hostages, Post Office included!

On another note. After word gets out about this film and more and more people see it, Congress is going to have to do a lot of dancing. It's also going to damage Hillary and Rudy's run for the Presidency. Hillary being a huge recipient of Health Insurance companies funds and Rudy for not helping all of the rescue workers from 9/11.

The Cuban segment was stunning!

As to my Freshman Congressman, he is a Progressive and I'm sure he would love to support Universal Health Care.

BTW..I watched the video of Mike saying that he didn't mind his films being downloaded. He just doesn't want anyone to make money off of them. It is important for him to get the info out there. As it stands now, like with Fahrenheit 9/11..which I did see in the theater, I am going to buy the DVD of Sicko when it comes out.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:11 PM
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25. I liked the French Post Office
Super easy and smooth service, when I was there :)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:25 PM
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29. That's when there aren't any strikes or slow downs! Whenever I have a customer in France
that I have to send a package to, I almost hold my breath until they receive it. I've also had things stolen from envelopes sent to a friend of mine who resides in the South of France.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:03 PM
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21. How are the scenes shot in Miami when they're leaving on the boats to Cuba?
I was in the boat with Michael Moore as an extra. I'm not sure if I made the final cut because I haven't seen the movie yet.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:10 PM
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24. Were you wearing a white hat?
If so, I think I saw you climbing in.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:15 PM
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27. uhm no, that was me.
i look like carlos from behind.
;)
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:22 PM
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28. Yes, white hat, black t-shirt and sunglasses
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:34 PM
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33. THere's a guy matching that, with shorts on
helping the 9/11 people onto the boat. THere's also someone in a dark shit and white hat (Panama Jack style) climing into the boat from the side and further up the boat. It's not a long sequence
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:26 PM
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30. NOTHING is going to change...
without violent overthrow.

people will scream about unfairness, the media will do in-depth reports, there might even be a rally or two...but then the next big diversion-of-the-month will come along, and people will forget...
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