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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:55 PM
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The “Cloud” over Dick Cheney Just Got Darker!
Optimists rule!

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The “Cloud” over Dick Cheney Just Got Darker!
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-06-18 00:27. Impeachment

By William Hughes

“It is an extraordinary subversion of the Constitution to send people to die...on the basis of a lie.” - Elizabeth Holtzman (1)

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On June 14, 2007, the trial judge in Libby’s federal criminal case, the Hon. Reggie B. Walton, ordered him to jail immediately to serve out his 2 1/2-year sentence. Libby, showing no remorse, was convicted on perjury, lying and obstruction of justice charges. His attorney filed a motion with the appellate court to stay the lower court’s ruling, pending his appeal of the case. “Scooter” was Cheney’s Chief of Staff: He ran his office. Libby got caught trying to smear former Ambassador Joe Wilson, a critic of the Iraqi War. Wilson had written, in the summer of 2003, that there was no evidence to suggest that Iraq’s Saddam Hussein had attempted to secure any uranium from Nigeria. Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame, worked for the CIA as a covert agent. Libby, a Neocon, leaked her name to the press and then lied about it to the FBI and to the Grand Jury. The schemers put out a story that Wilson’s trip to Africa was a “junket” arranged by his wife. Was Libby acting on Cheney’s behalf? The Special Prosecutor thinks he was and he has said so publicly.

On Feb. 20, 2007, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the Special Prosecutor, told the jury, in his closing argument, in Libby’s case: “There is a cloud over V.P. Cheney...Libby stole the truth...Don’t you think...the American people are entitled to straight answers...It was ‘they’ who decided to tell reporters Wilson’s wife was working for the CIA...To them, she wasn’t a person, she was argument. What is this case about? Is it about something bigger?” Dan Froomkin, who covered the case for the Washington Post, put it this way after hearing Fitzgerald’s remarks: “It was pretty clear who ‘they’ was: Libby and his boss, Cheney.” (3) The evidence in the case showed that Cheney was the initiator of the plot and Libby was his gofer. The jury felt that Libby was “a fall guy.” It was Cheney who wrote the “talking points” to get Wilson. He made notes on a newspaper article falsely suggesting that Wilson’s wife had sent him on a “junket” to Nigeria. The smear merchant of Wilson/Plame was Cheney! At law, Libby acting in concert with his string puller, Cheney, to lie under oath and to obstruct justice has a name. It is called: A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY!

There are some people on Capitol Hill, who think Libby might flip. He was, indeed, protecting Cheney, not that he needed much encouragement, since he was at the center of the White House cabal that was “fixing” the intelligence to get us into the Iraqi War. The NYT labeled him: “a principal architect of the war.” In fact, it was Libby who helped to push Colin Powell into making that flop of a speech at the UN on Feb. 5, 2003. And, if no presidential pardon comes Libby’s way, will he rat Cheney out? Who knows? Libby also had strong ties to another prime architect of the Iraqi War--Paul Wolfowitz, who was just dumped as CEO of the World Bank. Donald Rumsfeld, another Neocon, just got his walking papers at Defense. It’s hasn’t been a good summer for the Neocons. Libby was also one of the attorneys for fugitive billionaire financier, Marc Rich, a reported Mossad asset. (4) Libby helped to manipulate a presidential pardon for him from “Bubba Bill” Clinton, who made $10 million last year giving speeches! What a surprise! Meanwhile, who is going to help Libby get his pardon? Cheney? Rich? Hillary?

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The charges in the Articles of Impeachment, raised by Rep. Kucinich, if proven, are clearly impeachable offenses under the U.S. Constitution. Keep in mind, that under Article 1, Section 2 (5), of our National Charter, the role of the House in any impeachment inquiry is to “only” act as a Grand Jury. If it finds that there is probable cause, that is reasonable grounds, to believe the truth of the charges against Cheney, in H. Res 333, then it would have a duty under the law to impeach him. The U.S. Senate, then, would sit in judgment on the V.P. and decide his guilt or innocence. See, Art. 1, Sec. 3 (6).

The House Judiciary Committee, headed by Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), should let those subpoenas fly. Mr. Fitzgerald, the Special Prosecutor, should be called as a witness. Others connected to Cheney, like Karl Rove in the White House, and officials in U.S. State Department and at the Pentagon, whose names surfaced in the Libby case, also should be summoned before the Committee. It looks like Mr. Fitzgerald isn’t going to open a criminal inquiry into Cheney’s role in the Wilson/Plame matter. Congress then has a solemn duty, a Constitutional responsibility, to get to the bottom of Cheney’s egregious wrongdoing.

Finally, America was lied into the Iraqi War by a Cheney-dominated clique. One of the liars, Libby, made the mistake of lying under oath. Now, he is going to prison. It is time now for Libby’s Svengali, V.P. Dick Cheney, to be brought to the Bar of Justice. Congress, do your duty! Uphold the Republic! Remember our dead heroes in Iraq, who died for a lie! Investigate and impeach Cheney!

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:58 PM
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1. Just WHY is it taking SO long??????11! n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:04 PM
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3. Most members of Congress fear Darth.
He has the NSA Dossiers on them.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:08 AM
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13. Or, perhaps, the NSA has a thick dossier on Darth?
After it was confirmed that Cheney and WHIG had lied and threatened the military into invading Iraq on false pretenses, wouldn't it have made sense for the Generals to take a look for themselves at the raw intelligence, (i.e., BushCo's communications)?

Perhaps, they have made several copies of that record, some of which was shared with Mr. Fitzgerald. It seems that many of the second-tier conspirators are gone now (Rummy, Wolfie, Feith, Cambone, Gilon (Mossad Chief of Station in DC), and some of the third-tier operatives have been prosecuted (Scooter Libby, Lt. Col. Larry Franklin).

Could it be that there's been a long, quiet housecleaning going on? It seems that there is some sort of end-game growing near. See, http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/6/16/111131/710/45#c45
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:20 PM
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5. Maybe he's handstiching his initials in his underwear?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:48 PM
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6. Proof.
No one has any proof that he's violated any laws. Lots of noise, lots of belief, but no proof.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:12 PM
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9. Also, shortening his time in office by a year doesn't seem to be worth it to a lot of people
If we started an impeachment process tomorrow it probably wouldn't be done for another 6-8 months, at which point it will be early 2008 and he'll be out in a few months anyways. I have some sympathy for the idea that it's better to leave him where he is, a lame duck largely out of political capital, then to poke a wounded animal.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:42 PM
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20. Will you still feel sympathy for the idea of leaving him in office
when the bombs start falling in Iran?

The only way for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing(A kind of quote from someone).
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 04:02 PM
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21. I'm pro-impeachment
I just can understand why somebody who thinks it's too late for it to do any good would think that.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:08 AM
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14. Isn't that what investigations are supposed to root out, why subpoenas are so important?
How can they get proof if they won't put those closest to the action under oath? Or if the Whitehouse refuses to abide by subpoenas then Impeach for that reason alone. That in itself is proof of abuse of power..
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 10:43 AM
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18. Well, I responded to "why is it taking so long?".
Subpoenas and that whole process take time. The reason we're here is because the process started years too late and the wheels of Congress have NEVER moved faster than this, especially not in regards to Nixon/Watergate.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:09 PM
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7. Though the wheel of justice grinds slow
it grinds exceeding fine.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:01 PM
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2. HR 333
I wrote my conman and asked him to co-sponsor it. Since he is a repuke, he's ignored me.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:04 AM
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12. Umm H.Res 333, you mean
HR 333 is the Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:09 PM
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4. Aw, heck,...if anything short of 'optimists' RULED, Cheney would be in prison by now.
The whole GANG of RICO-DOERS would be in prison,...by now.

No offense.

We live in a country of convenience,...to the extreme (e.g. just ignore it *the evil in the room*, think otherwise and go shopping, and *poof* it will go away). At least, that's my sense of the way it is, here, in our country.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:11 PM
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8. With dark clouds, one can always hope for lightning.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:13 AM
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16. GMTA and all that
lol

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 05:43 PM
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23. And a Rainbow After the Storm--We Deserve a Rainbow
also some precipitation (otherwise known as fallout) wouldn't go amiss.
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:11 AM
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10. Have we ever seen a man more in need of
"spending more time with his family" than Dick Cheney? His much-beleagered heart could give out anytime. Shouldn't someone suggest to him that he should take his riches and retire to quiet time with his familly before it's too late?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 05:56 AM
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11. After Cheney is out of office
the chance of him getting a pardon is about zero. I hope he dies in prison.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:12 AM
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15. He doesn't have long, anyway.
He's had three heart attacks, and two surgeries, suffers from advanced cardio-vascular degeneration.

Just like Mr. Casey. Capable of anything, because he knew he wouldn't spend a day in jail.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:44 AM
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17. Always trying to beat the Devil from getting his due.
one day the Devil is going to get his pound of flesh.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 12:16 PM
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19. Good points, except this sentence:
Libby was also one of the attorneys for fugitive billionaire financier, Marc Rich, a reported Mossad asset. (4) Libby helped to manipulate a presidential pardon for him from “Bubba Bill” Clinton, who made $10 million last year giving speeches! What a surprise! Meanwhile, who is going to help Libby get his pardon? Cheney? Rich? Hillary?


Why are the fees Clinton makes for speeches in the same sentence as the Mark Rich pardon? Are we (or you rather) insinuating the freeperistic argument that Clinton pardoned Rich for money? The tone of this was a sour note in your otherwise excellent presentation. It was a throwback to the times when W grabbed the power and tried hard to blacken the reputation of "his predecessor" (the only name he allowed Clinton to have in his speeches)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 04:08 PM
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22. "Timeline: Activities of the White House Iraq Group/WHIG"
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:20 PM
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24. How did Cheney become so powerful? Or better, WHEN?
He was obviously powerful way before he got into office by putting the Bush-puppet in the Oval Office. He has all these lackeys that worship the ground he walks on, or are terrified of him. Why is he so powerful? Why are people afraid of this freak? Anyone have any ideas?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:24 PM
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25. Fucking A! Can we just get on with it already!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:32 PM
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26. I don't expect it to happen. That's the response from Congressman
Mike Thompson (CA 1st Congressional District, north of San Francisco).

I think the dems are scared to death impeachment proceedings are going to turn the electorate against them. But for the life of me I can't see why with Darth's numbers so low.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:04 PM
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28. Bingo, and republican obstructionism will add to the perception
that Dems have been unable to do anything for the electorate. It's already being framed that way now, with help from our hapless leaders in Congress.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:34 PM
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27. I would like to hear from Fitzgerald
bring him in and hear what he thinks

He did most of the grunt work
its all there for Congress

the whole group who worked for Bush need to go to jail

They failed every step of the way they failed

the whole coporation is falling apart

They Failed on their ultimate goal taking over the Mideast

they are a joke
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