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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 05:19 PM
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McClatchy: Liberal or progressive? Some Democrats abandon the `L' word
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/17097.html

Liberal or progressive? Some Democrats abandon the `L' word
By Matt Stearns | McClatchy Newspapers


WASHINGTON — When is a liberal conference not a liberal conference? When it's a progressive one.

Therein lies no small bit of controversy among the ever-churning American left.

You could be forgiven, if upon wandering into the Campaign for America's Future "Take Back America" conference here this week, you thought you were among liberals. Consider:

_ A session on impeaching President Bush, with lots of "Impeach Him" buttons floating around.

_ Books for sale such as "American Assassination: The Strange Death of Paul Wellstone," positing that the liberal Minnesota senator's death in a 2002 plane crash was no accident.

_ Exhibition booths for such established groups as People for the American Way and more obscure outfits such as the Secular Coalition of America.

_ The opening news conference, where one speaker said he wanted to "force Republicans onto their knees and beg for forgiveness," and another decried "the utter bankruptcy of our corporate-driven economy."

But at that hour-long news conference, the word "liberal" wasn't uttered once by any of the six speakers. They used the word "progressive" at least 32 times.

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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 05:21 PM
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1. 1) he's how many years late? 2) who cares?
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:26 AM
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8. 1) 15 or 20 2) partisan fuckstains
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 05:21 PM
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2. Cowards.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 05:27 PM
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3. Love me, I'm a Liberal

Love Me, I'm A Liberal
by Phil Ochs

I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:20 PM
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4. I am a LIBERAL!! And I am proud of it. eom
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:23 PM
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5. I've never said I was a liberal - always (for 30 years) used the term
"progressive". To me a liberal is someone who has kneejerk reactions to situations.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:26 PM
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6. Traditionally, progressives were to the left of liberals.
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 07:27 PM by Radical Activist
Its a term that can include liberals but also people further to the left like radicals, anarchists, socialists and so on. So I'll call myself a progressive.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:33 PM
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7. I've never been a "liberal" - whatever that is.
Born in a Socialist family. Flirted with the various brands of Communism, finally abandoned ideologies and became an Anarchist.

"The fascists will shoot you.
The conservatives will applaud the fascists,
The moderates will watch it on TV,
The liberals will cry over your grave,
and feel guilty for having turned you in to the fascists."

A saying from the '60s.
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