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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:30 PM
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A step beyond Purity Balls: Father dates his daughter.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:32 PM
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1. Gross
Hell, just as I was going to have dinner :mad:

I never wanted my father as a date :grr:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:33 PM
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2. There are always a few posters who support this
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 06:34 PM by LostinVA
My mother would have left my father and taken us kids if my dad pulled something like this.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:19 PM
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33. Oh, yeah. I got beaten up by several
in a Purity Ball thread a while back. I was shocked at how many DUers (well, maybe DUers) were supportive of Dad being obsessed with a ceremony celebrating his daughter's intact hymen. Mom was nowhere to be found. Dad's date was his daughter. And you should see the photos. The little girls, and they are little...they shouldn't even be involved in the whole "purity" discussion at such a young age, are wearing strapless evening gowns, with their hair done up like beauty queens, and, of course, JonBenet makeup.
The whole "ownership" aspect is repugnant to me. The girl is chattel. She's Daddy's property. And Dad's the gatekeeper who guards her "purity" until she can be "given" to her husband.
And Daddy is obsessed with his daughter's genitalia.
I'm so glad I was so lucky with my parents.
My heart goes out to these little girls.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:35 PM
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3. Hey, I stole a set of those from my husband.
Now, I'm not sure what to do with them. I don't think they're edible.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:36 PM
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4. I realize this will come as quite a shock
but BlooInBloo, you are absolutely right.

This is not "healthy". It's creepy.

I'd love to know the breakdown of the percentage of how many of these "purity ball" dads were having a good time before marriage with these young girls' mothers, just out of idle curiosity. How many of THEM came to the "marriage bed" "undefiled"?

Julie
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:50 PM
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13. How many of those fathers are restricting their sexual behavior to the marriage bed?
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 06:50 PM by Fridays Child
And let's not even think about how many of them are really "dating" their daughters.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 11:47 PM
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36. It happened at the Assembly of God church I grew up in
>And let's not even think about how many of them are really "dating" their daughters.<

Imagine how shocked everyone was to learn that a "pillar of the church" -- board member, Sunday school teacher, business owner -- was molesting his teenage daughter.

Julie
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:36 PM
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5. Are the mothers dating their teenage sons too?
This stuff has always struck me as disturbing. Now more so than before.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:39 PM
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6. Nah - the point is for men to control women's sexuality, not vice-versa.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:43 PM
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8. Rubbish. Men should be able to control their sexuality impulses too. If they don't,
the woman says "No!"

If the man continues despite being told not to continue making advances, it's a crime and the bastard goes to jail for rape.

But I do know there is a double standard and I readily agree; it's disgusting how the men are encouraged to do as they please...
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:46 PM
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11. Of course. What was I thinking?
Keeping up the family tradition of girls being sexually oppressed and boys being sexual hypocrites. Yes sir, that's some healthy family values.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:41 PM
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7. Jessica Valenti? I thought her father Jack died?
:yoiks:

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:44 PM
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9. Abstinence Clearinghouse? clearinghouse?
ROFLMAO

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:46 PM
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10. How to make a Purity Ball sacred amulet for your daughter
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 06:46 PM by Wiley50
First- cut them off

Next- preserve in formaldehyde

Then- seal in sacred glass amulet

Hang on chain around daughter's neck

make her promise to carry them next to her heart
for the rest of her life

of course, since you've gone to all that trouble
you might as well blow your brains out
so she'll remember to keep the promise

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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 12:07 AM
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38. Nice! Your pome? nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:48 PM
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12. "Females were created to feel accepted by men." no shit. That's not what my
mother taught me.
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:51 PM
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14. This is seriously perverted
These "balls" are NOT about the dad. They are first and foremost about FUN, not making a creepy political statement. Yuccck! Who wants to go to a dance with their dad??? Dad has to let go as it should also be about the kids emerging adulthood and consequent responsibilities. I worry about the signal it sends about the Dad's control over the daughter's sexuality. Very creepy. At some point parents need to back off and trust they have taught their kids right from wrong by this point. If they don't, they will cripple their kids move to adulthood.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 06:55 PM
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15. the sad part is I took an 8 yo to a "Father/Daughter Dance"
which was beautiful. This "addon" is just sick.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:42 PM
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17. I did too.
But there wasn't anything vows of abstinence or wierd promises involved. I did 3 of those things,,,,I was happy when she decided it was too hokey.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 11:51 PM
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37. I'm all for this
>which was beautiful<

A great relationship with your daughter will teach her to have healthy relationships with men when she's older.

Good for you, Dad. I know she's crazy about you ;-).

Julie
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 07:04 PM
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16. "..sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love."
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 07:04 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
“Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you’re going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love.” - Butch Hancock
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:25 PM
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25. So..that means we should...have...sex...with god?
*scratches his head* That doesn't seem right.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:01 PM
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18. These "purity balls" get $160 million in government funding?????
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 08:01 PM by KzooDem
That's what the anchor said in the lead-in to the segment. WTF?????
I've about had it "up to here" with these damned evangelical Christobots fanagling their way into our government. That's $160 million in "faith based" funding, I'm guessing? What a crock of SHIT.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:05 PM
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19. There are no smileys in this world to precisely describe how I feel.
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 08:05 PM by originalpckelly
I guess this will have to do:
:puke:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:08 PM
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21. Something like :madgrrpuke: is what they need, perhaps.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:06 PM
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20. I swear, the world HAS to view us as a giant comedy act that's gone too damned far.
Purity Balls disgust me beyond belief. You should NOT be that up into a child's business like that and still be allowed to walk among society.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:08 PM
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22. That takes pure balls
these "people" need removed from society once and for all. Ship them off to some remote island where they can believe in their dogmatic perversions and be divorced from reality and pretend the world is flat and dinosaurs lived in the garden of eden. stupid fucks.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:21 PM
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23. Sounds a little bit familiar
"(Winston Smith) saw himself standing there in the dim lamplight, with the smell of bugs and cheap scent in his nostrils, and in his heart a feeling of defeat and resentment which even at that moment was mixed up with the thought of Katharine’s white body, frozen for ever by the hypnotic power of the Party. Why did it always have to be like this? Why could he not have a woman of his own instead of these filthy scuffles at intervals of years? But a real love affair was an almost unthinkable event. The women of the Party were all alike. Chastity was as deep ingrained in them as Party loyalty. By careful early conditioning, by games and cold water, by the rubbish that was dinned into them at school and in the Spies and the Youth League, by lectures, parades, songs, slogans, and martial music, the natural feeling had been driven out of them. His reason told him that there must be exceptions, but his heart did not believe it. They were all impregnable, as the Party intended that they should be. And what he wanted, more even than to be loved, was to break down that wall of virtue, even if it were only once in his whole life. The sexual act, successfully performed, was rebellion. Desire was thoughtcrime. Even to have awakened Katharine, if he could have achieved it, would have been like a seduction, although she was his wife."

George Orwell - 1984
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:23 PM
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24. What is wrong with abstinence by arrogance?
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 08:27 PM by RGBolen
I have a cousin that was taught this and it's done her very well. She's had a couple of guys get mad when she told them that she wouldn't have sex with them because they were not worth her, but it's given her a good self image and made her very selective in who she dates and sleeps with.

Edit to add: This is not the saving of onesself to be given to someone. This is giving someone the attitude that there are very few people that are worth having sex with.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:27 PM
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26. Did she drink with them?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:28 PM
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27. I would think she did
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:30 PM
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29. Hmmmmmm
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:30 PM
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31. I don't see your point
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 08:33 PM by RGBolen

Are you saying there is some implication to her drinking and sexual consent?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:39 PM
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35. No
I was just wondering if she deemed them worthy enough to have a drink with them -- that's all.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:29 PM
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28. I praticed that as a teenager, but it didn't require me to "pledge myself" to my dad. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 08:30 PM
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30. lol! That's one way to go, I suppose.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:07 PM
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32. Coming up next: Purity Deflorations, to be followed by Purity Honeymoons,
and after the happy dad and daughter settle down, Purity Threesomes. So sweet and, above all, so pure. We know that because the word "Purity" comes before it.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:38 PM
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34. EW EW EW!
I know people on DU defend this. Boggles my mind, because this whole thing just raises every ICK hackle I have, and I have a lot.

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