Rudy won't ax scandal priest (child molester pal) from payroll

Rudy Giuliani plans to keep a priest, suspended by the church in a child sex scandal, on his payroll, his spokeswoman said yesterday.

The Republican presidential candidate's show of loyalty to his childhood friend came in the face of a call from the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests for Giuliani to fire Msgr. Alan Placa from his security consulting business.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/06/23/2007-06-23_rudy_wont_ax_scandal_priest.html

much, much more on this guy in Salon article:
http://salon.com/news/feature/2007/06/22/placa/

Another indication that Guiliani would pick cabinet members along the same quality (or worse) than those selected by jr... er.... cheney.

I guess this is how he plans to bridge the gap with James Dobson:

http://www.bluegrassreport.org/bluegrass_politics/2005/08/advice_from_dr_.html

"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

...yikes!

Bah. When I was a kid I took showers with my dad. That's actually how we started our first birds and bees talk.

If you want to talk about weirdness, Dobson offers a lot of big fat targets (my understanding is that he was pretty abusive toward his kids--altho I might be confusing him with a different funky fundy). For that matter, the rest of that quote is a lot freakier than a dad showering with his son and his son learning about how a body develops from that. Just why the hell can't a dad roughhouse with his daughter, or play catch, or teach her how to pound a nail?

I was taught how to fight by my Dad. And not the usual fighting - he taught me to fight dirty, in order to defend myself. He also taught me how to fire a gun, use a knife - and use tools. That training has come in very useful over the years.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? This stuff is so immoral, and I don't mean some bullshit religious context, this is secular immorality!

Who are you, Cotton Mather or John Calvin?

influence, need to be deat with both legally and socially. There is no excuse, none, for them to be accepted by a society.

There are few things lower than an individual who will take advantage of a child, it is a despicable activity, and people who commit such crimes do not get any sympathy from me. They shold not be protected by a religion, calims of orientation or any other "excuse" they can come up with. A child is NOT a sexual toy. AFAIC, molesters are open to life w/o parole...the damage they do is lifelong, they should pay w/a life sentence.

I don't know the statistics, and I'm too lazy to make them up right now, but people I know and trust have said that the compulsion to sexually abuse and dominate a child is something some molesters can simply never be cured of.

Still, if the guy isn't going to be locked up for life, he has to work somewhere. Being perpetually unemployed but out on the loose isn't exactly punishment for a pervert. A Giuliani campaign is about as removed from children as one can reasonably get--so long as Rudy is the only one allowed to kiss the babies.

but there should be no statute of limitations on child molestation IMO. If there wasn't, this guy would have at least been tried.

run out the clock by deceiving and intimidating the victims. That's what makes it even more repulsive.

but there is something that I find viscerally repulsive about soemone who would abuse a child.

This is not to sayother crimes against people are not jsut as bad, rapists and murderers need to be dealt with as well, but to abuse a child is one of those things that just really ticks me off instantaneously. I love kids, I like to see them laugh, play and just live life. When that is taken from them by a heinous act, I just lose it. There are enough imaginary monstrs in this world, but the real monsters will receive no sympathy from me.

and nothing will change that

although we hear much about cycles of abuse,etc..., logically it seems that it would be like other types of sexual attraction and indeed have a genetic basis

factors so I think that's a definite possibility. Cycles of sexual abuse in families could be explained by genetics plus environment, like most anything else that "runs in families." I wonder if anyone has studied children of sexual abusers who don't grow up to be sexual abusers? If there are many such people it would strongly suggest that minus the gene, being abused won't make a person become an abuser.

The fact that it's almost impossible to cure pedophiles suggests that there is a genetic basis. Maybe the ones who can be cured don't have the gene?

Unless/until we find that it is genetic, identify the gene or genes, and develop gene therapy, I'm afraid this problem isn't going to go away. The only thing society can do is educate parents and children to be more cautious, which ought to be a public health initiative,

God, how fucking awful is this? Rudy you're a bastard.

Hubris and arrogance, IMO. This guy's a piece of work.

The man hasn't been proven guilty of anything according to the NY Post.

He works for Rudy so he has bad taste in friends but that's not a crime.

But whatever the Salon article says, unless the man has been found guilty in a court of law, he's presumed innocent.

If this is still America, at least.

... Rudi can take the coming onslaught from Michael Moore's 'Sicko".

In 1983 when Giuliani wanted to marry Donna Hanover, he couldnt do it because he was still married to his cousin (second cousin Regina Peruggi). Marriage between second cousins is prohibited by the Catholic church, unless they give the couple a special permission. Giuliani and her cousin did not get the permission back in the 70's because they never told church officials they were cousins, so Giuliani went to his long-time buddy Placa so he could hook him up with an annulment.
Placa and Giuliani knew each other since childhood.

So now you know why Giuliani, whose loyalty towards Bernard Kerik had a limit, still sticks to this alleged child molester.