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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:30 PM Original message |
What is Democrats excuse for not impeaching at least Cheney in light of his defiance of oversight? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because it's not personal to Cheney. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Aww, stop making sense!! |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. But is this de-funding something we're serious about? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Look, what Cheney is trying to pull here is really serious. |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. My point is just, if you're going to threaten it, you better be ready to DO it, too. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Point taken. But the cost to them is so much less than 'defunding the troops' |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Disagree |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. I'm not sure they COULD defund the VP's office. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. so we'll need a demolition crew to put his office in prison. But will Bush pardon his paperweight? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Possible problem with that |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. "We don't have the votes. It'd be divisive. It'd energize their base... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. My poem on the occasion of every Democrat surrender: |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
36. Good poem! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. unless their job is to be the Washington Generals to GOP Globetrotters. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Be patient. They will say. |
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MikeNearMcChord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Yep! As sadly as we get marched to |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. bull forward, no matter what the consequences, no matter if it doesn't convict |
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sakkatta (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. they want to be just as corrupt |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. welcome to DU! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
43. Don't lose hope. It's all that is left. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. We don't have the votes |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. I hate to make excuses for the Democrats but when you start |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. uh...what else is getting done now? I cut them slack on this initially cuz I figured they were |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. This post displays the depth of your ignorance. "what else is getting done now" |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I know the investigations are going on. substantive legislation is important, but Bush will veto it |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. the DC people are acting like this is business as usual, which shows an epic disconnect from reality |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
53. I agree. This is ANYTHING but "business as usual". nm |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. "Something similar happened with Al Gore. His parking sticker expired and he didn't get a new one |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. 'remain in ignorance and beat your little "impeach" drum' |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. You know what, though? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
38. That's a myth and GOP talking point |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. why corporate staffers? Get left advocacy groups to do it: CREW, FAIR, Moveon, Ray McGovern.... |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. IMPEACH BUSH / CHENEY NOW!!!!!! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. They're "keeping their powder dry". |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
16. Impeachment does not always mean removable from office |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
17. Balls: See, "lack of" |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. Remove his Secret Service protection and VP Residence ... and let nature take its course. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. you should edit that so it doesn't imply physical harm |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. Their Corporate Donors wouldbe mad if they did |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. Lets all ask them. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yes! Let's ask the question. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I already do. Last week I sent a TO DO list to my congressman, senators, and congressional leaders |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. It's not up to them, it's up to us. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. We should pick a day of the week, any damn day, |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. remember the occupation project? Go to senator & congressman's local office. Ask questions & if |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. CP used to do that every week with Nancy's staff. Her offices here |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. did you see the truck from the inside? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Not yet! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I think there is something to be said for water torture protest as well as big events |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. That's what I'm thinking. You can undercount and report one event. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. spinach? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Yep. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I thought that might have been it. I won't ask what's in your pipe |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Whew! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. oops, just gave yursef away. DEA will be there shortly |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. If they mess with my nap, there will be HELL to pay. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. how long ago did you live here? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I came back north April 30, 2004. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. we overlapped by a decade. probably saw you at Trader Joe's or the grocery co-op |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. LOL! But did you ever go to Jerry's New Year's Eve bash |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I'm always out of town on New Year's. Maybe I'll have to change that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. It's a great party and a good place to meet progressives. n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
35. remember....'impeachment is off the table'....Speaker of the House (dem) |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. Same rationalizations for failing to impeach on torture, abuse of signing. . . |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
44. Too Skeerd |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. if the little one starts bombing Iran he'll be using nuclear |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. Complicity & political cowardice. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. complicity is the obstacle--too many Dems are corporate owned so even if the leadership |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
61. We have to keep that powder dry in case something serious happens. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. "Bush & Cheney have nuked Iran and eaten babies, but we need to keep our powder dry in case of space |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
68. We're too busy working on legislation for bush to veto. n/t |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
70. How About A Specific Charge And Evidence |
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