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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:36 AM
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Juan Cole's analysis of Ahmadinejad genocide resolution in House
Everything seems to be proceeding as planned.

http://www.juancole.com/

Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul continue to show themselves among the few in Congress with any integrity and backbone. They declined to go along with a resolution charging Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad with incitement to genocide, given his alleged call for Israel to be 'wiped off the face of the map.' As most of my readers know, Ahmadinejad did not use that phrase in Persian. He quoted an old saying of Ayatollah Khomeini calling for 'this occupation regime over Jerusalem" to "vanish from the page of time.' Calling for a regime to vanish is not the same as calling for people to be killed. Ahmadinejad has not to my knowledge called for anyone to be killed. If Ahmadinejad is a genocidal maniac who just wants to kill Jews, then why are there 20,000 Jews in Iran with a member of parliament in Tehran? Couldn't he start at home if that was what he is really about?

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It was apparently some Western wire service that mistranslated the phrase as 'wipe Israel off the map', which sounds rather more violent than calling for regime change. Since then, Iranian media working in English have themselves depended on that translation. One of the tricks of Right-Zionist propagandists is to substitute these English texts for Ahmadinejad's own Persian text. (Ethan Bronner at the New York Times tried to pull this, and more recently Michael Rubin at the American Enterprise Institute.) But good scholarship requires that you go to the original Persian text in search of the meaning of a phrase. Bronner and Rubin are guilty disregarding philological scholarship in favor of mere propagandizing.

These propaganda efforts against Iran and Ahmadinejad also depend on declining to enter into evidence anything else he has ever said-- like that it would be wrong to kill Jews! They also ignore that Ahmadinejad is not even the commander in chief of the Iranian armed forces.

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So here are some things Ahmadinezhad has said that make clear his intentions, and which are translated by the United States government Open Source Center. He is hostile to Israel. He'd like to see regime change (apparently via a referendum on the shape of the government ruling over geographical Palestine, in which all "original" residents of any religion would get a vote). Calling for a referendum on the dissolution of a government is not calling for genocide. Ahmadinejad also says he has no objection to a Jewish state in and of itself, he just thinks it should be located in, say, German territory set apart for the purpose, rather than displacing Palestinians from their homes. He may be saying unrealistic things; he is not advocating killing Jews qua Jews, or genocide.

Note that Ahmadinejad below denies being an anti-Semite (why deny it if he supposedly glories in it?); points out that he supports Jewish representation in the Iranian parliament; and compares his call for an end to the Zionist regime ruling over Jerusalem to the Western call for the dissolution of the old Soviet Union. Was Ronald Reagan inciting to genocide when he called for an end of the Soviet regime?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:49 AM
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1. Maybe people will listen to this -
I know when I've said such things on this board its brought out all the reflexive Israel defenders to hint that I'm anti-Semitic.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:55 AM
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2. One of the problems in translation is
That "regime change" in American parlance means the use of military might. That's just how it is. What other countries mean by the same phrase doesn't necessarily translate.

Ahmadinejad isn't the man in power anyway; the Iranian constitution gives that power to the structure surrounding the Ayatollah. That doesn't translate well into American terms either.

This is the difficulty with the US foreign apparatus, including the IMF. Americans are, unfortunately, ideologically hidebound and totally unable to interpret what is sitting in front of them from their perspective at the top of the heap.
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