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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:27 PM
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A GOP Plan To Oust Cheney
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 04:31 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/25/AR2007062501038.html?hpid=opinionsbox1


By Sally Quinn
Tuesday, June 26, 2007; 12:00 AM

The big question right now among Republicans is how to remove Vice President Cheney from office. Even before this week's blockbuster series in The Post, discontent in Republican ranks was rising.

As the reputed architect of the war in Iraq, Cheney is viewed as toxic, and as the administration's leading proponent of an attack on Iran, he is seen as dangerous. As long as he remains vice president, according to this thinking, he has the potential to drag down every member of the party -- including the presidential nominee -- in next year's elections.


Removing a sitting vice president is not easy, but this may be the moment. I remember Barry Goldwater sitting in my parents' living room in 1973, in the last days of Watergate, debating whether to lead a group of senior Republicans to the White House to tell President Nixon he had to go. His hesitation was that he felt loyalty to the president and the party. But in the end he felt a greater loyalty to his country, and he went to the White House.

Today, another group of party elders, led by Sen. John Warner of Virginia, could well do the same. They could act out of concern for our country's plummeting reputation throughout the world, particularly in the Middle East.

For such a plan to work, however, they would need a ready replacement. Until recently, there hasn't been an acceptable alternative to Cheney -- nor has there been a persuasive argument to convince President Bush to make a change. Now there is.



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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:32 PM
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1. Cheney's not gonna be happy when he reads this
and my guess is that whoever thought this up will be spending more time with their family real soon.

Actually it seems like wishful thinkin by Sally Quinn. Or something planted by bush who lacked the cojones to make the suggestion to big dick himself.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:33 PM
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2. He's a bad mofo, who's got their back? n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:35 PM
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3. Sally Quinn disgusts me.
:patriot:

(She must have slept with FT once upon a time.)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:35 PM
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4. heh heh heh
I don't care how he goes... just THAT he goes.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:37 PM
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5. I think the Cheney has metastacized by now
Even chemotherapy won't work to get him out.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:38 PM
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6. So if the
Republics are talking about how to remove Cheney why don't the Dem's help out with impeachment after all, if the Republics would back it, time seem's right???
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:43 PM
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8. You have a good point there. nt
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:43 PM
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7. What is wrong with impeachment?
There is a mechanism already in place. If the Repugs want to get rid of Cheney, why don't they begin impeachment proceedings? I'm sure the Dems won't mind (although with impeachment still "off the table", I'm very tempted to add the sarcasm tag.)
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:59 PM
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10. Impeachment is a messy business, beside a clean surgical strike will do the job
This is a cover-up of some very nasty things about to come out of the White House. After six years of the Bush Jr. White House thinking they could get away with anything (conventional wisdom says they will get away with a lot of things), now people are getting nervous. Eating their own, saying stupid obvious lies (i.e. going off the scripted page), not knowing what to do next and so forth... another words, the powers that be only want certain information to come out.

Today we have Dick Cheney making the front page of the Washington Post (four day in a row) and Karl Rove with his usual bag of tricks down in Alabama. What could be better?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 04:57 PM
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9. If Quinn is writing about it, Republicans in DC are talking about it.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/11250.html

‘Removing a sitting vice president is not easy, but…’



Ordinarily, I wouldn’t pay too much attention to Sally Quinn’s WaPo columns. Her reputation for being the social director of the Georgetown cocktail circuit is well deserved; Quinn’s columns tend to let readers know what Republican socialites in DC are chatting about. Hardly the stuff of Pulitzers.

But today’s Quinn piece is a little startling because, as she tells it, this is now the time to throw Dick Cheney under the bus.

The big question right now among Republicans is how to remove Vice President Cheney from office. Even before this week’s blockbuster series in The Post, discontent in Republican ranks was rising.

As the reputed architect of the war in Iraq, Cheney is viewed as toxic, and as the administration’s leading proponent of an attack on Iran, he is seen as dangerous. As long as he remains vice president, according to this thinking, he has the potential to drag down every member of the party — including the presidential nominee — in next year’s elections.

Removing a sitting vice president is not easy, but this may be the moment. I remember Barry Goldwater sitting in my parents’ living room in 1973, in the last days of Watergate, debating whether to lead a group of senior Republicans to the White House to tell President Nixon he had to go. His hesitation was that he felt loyalty to the president and the party. But in the end he felt a greater loyalty to his country, and he went to the White House.

Today, another group of party elders, led by Sen. John Warner of Virginia, could well do the same.

We’ve heard plenty of “dump Cheney” talk before, particularly in the run-up to the 2004 election, and all of it was kind of silly. And with 18 months left in the Bush presidency, I find it rather hard to believe we’ll see this kind of massive change. Indeed, if this week’s Post series makes one thing clear, it’s that Cheney runs this White House and is responsible for Bush’s agenda. It’s the kind of dynamic that offers good job security.

But Quinn’s column is interesting anyway. For one thing, it suggests the GOP establishment no longer has any use for the Bush White House. If Quinn is writing about it, Republicans in DC are talking about it.

For another, Quinn has already lined up Cheney’s successor.


The idea is to install a vice president who could beat the Democratic nominee in 2008. It’s unlikely that any of the top three Republican candidates — former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, Sen. John McCain of Arizona or former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — would want the job, for fear that association with Bush’s war would be the kiss of death.

Nor would any of them be that attractive to the president. Giuliani is too New York, too liberal. His reputation as a leader, forged on 9/11 and the days after, carries him only so far. McCain, who has always had a rocky relationship with the president, lost much of his support from moderate Democrats and independents (and from a fair amount of Republicans) when the Straight Talk Express started veering off course. And no matter what anyone says about how Romney’s religion doesn’t matter, being a Mormon is simply not acceptable to Bush’s base. Several right-wing evangelicals have told me they don’t see Mormons as “true Christians.”

That leaves Fred Thompson. Everybody loves Fred.

Atrios argues that for Republicans, “It’s actually a good idea.” I completely agree. Bush gets an heir apparent who is cut from the same Bush cloth; the GOP gets to exorcise Cheney’s demons; Thompson gets a head-start on his rivals. I wouldn’t be surprised if some in DC actually believe that the Republican Brand would improve if the party showed the courage to remove a destructive element from its ranks.

In reality, Cheney has helped undermine the GOP far more than the party probably realizes, but if Quinn’s right, the party’s insiders know something is amiss and they know Cheney bears some responsibility.

In my heart of hearts, I suspect every single Republican lawmaker on the Hill could go directly to the president and demand he make a change, and Bush would blow them off. But would a Cheney resignation help everyone? You bet.
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