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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 08:59 PM
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Terminally Ill Man Executed In Oklahoma
Terminally Ill Man Executed In Oklahoma

POSTED: 6:31 pm CDT June 26, 2007
UPDATED: 6:42 pm CDT June 26, 2007

McALESTER, Okla. -- A terminally ill Oklahoma death row inmate was executed Tuesday after his final appeal for a reprieve was denied by the U.S. Supreme Court.

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Bland, 49, was terminally ill with advanced lung cancer that spread to his brain and his hip bone, according to his attorney, David Autry. Bland received radiation and chemotherapy treatment, and his doctors said he had as little as six months to live.

Autry had warned that Bland's execution could have been a catastrophe if the veins in his arms were compromised by his chemotherapy treatments before a lethal dose of chemicals were injected as part of the execution process.

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Autry had asked the Supreme Court to block Bland's execution and decide whether executing a terminally ill inmate violates the Constitution's prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. The court denied the request late Thursday afternoon, said Charlie Price, spokesman for the Oklahoma Attorney General's Office.

http://www.koco.com/news/13575908/detail.html

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:00 PM
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1. That is sick. Just let him die. Why kill him if he was in this shape?
I do not believe in the death penalty, and in this case it seems really uncalled for.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:02 PM
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2. Isn't Mercy Killing Illegal?
:crazy:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:07 PM
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3. Not all the time, apparently.
I've watched too many people die of lung cancer to think they did him anything but a favor, but apparently he disagreed.

Some people want time. Some people want quality.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:13 PM
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4. indeed
how my grandfather A went. i would wlecome the death penalty. why chemo?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:32 AM
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31. they had to do it because the dp is about revenge.
If they let the cancer kill him, they wouldn't have had their revenge.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:13 PM
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5. Let me see if I understand this
Advocates of state-sanctioned murder often roll out the argument that "it's cheaper to kill them than to support them for the rest of their lives." Well, when we calculate the full cost of the appeals process, that argument goes right out the window; the cost to maintain a prisoner on death row until his natural death is substantially less than the cost of trying him all the way through the judicial system. That's true in a case of a normal life expectancy.

It's far more obviously true in the case of a terminally ill prisoner.

So what's the motivation behind the execution, aside from blood-thirsty vengeance?


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:15 PM
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6. You answered your own question.
Revenge killing.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:15 PM
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7. When they are about to die from "natural" causes
you would think that there would be no point to utilizing the death penalty. More importantly what's the point of having a death penalty that takes so long to invoke that they die from natural causes? The whole damn thing is flawed so just throw it out instead of jerry-rigging it.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:16 PM
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8. Capital punishment is inhumane
It is really sad that we are about the only "civilized" country which has capital punishment. Every new form of capital punishment is supposedly less inhumane, but then we find out it is inhumane too. Hell, even if the actual death was painless the wait for it would be cruel. What is even more gruesome is the fact that punishing an innocent person is not that rare.

It just makes me want to cry about the inhumanity we have towards humanity at times.

I recently toured a prison that was active up until 1995 I believe. It was gross! 5 x 7 cells. The entire facility was disgusting. Yet we have people acting as if being in jail was like spending time in a luxury resort! It gives me the creeps just thinking about it, and all the innocent folks who served time there. Saw a list of prisoners. Few had graduated from high school, even fewer had any college. The exhibit on "old sparky" had about 5-6 famous writeups about executions, and at least 2, maybe 3 mentioned that they had to shock the victim twice because he wasn't dead yet. Gross me out.

Sorry for the rant.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:20 PM
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9. I'm really okay with it.
I do not see why this case would be any different than any other convicted inmate facing execution. :shrug:
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:26 PM
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10. It's cheaper to kill a person than it is to treat their cancer. n/t
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:29 PM
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12. ding! ding! ding! ding! ding! we have a winner! eom
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:28 PM
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11. He probably had a much easier death.
Lung cancer can be a REALLY ugly way to go.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:34 PM
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13. True, but it's kind of like arresting someone in prison.
What's the point?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:19 PM
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17. Hell, I've taken care of death row inmates after major surgeries and
screening procedures. What's the point of that? Make sure they're healthy so you can kill them?

Personally, I think the death penalty is ridiculous. Our society is quite strange. The reality is that the death penalty costs way more than incarcerating
someone for life, and if they are wrongly convicted you have a chance to amend their sentence. But why do something that makes sense? :crazy:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:48 PM
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23. Not popular with some I guess. Must be part of the American psyche.
Were these inmates at Central Prison?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:09 AM
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32. I think all of the death row inmates were from Central.
UNC and Wake Med are the only hospitals I know of that care for prisoners. We get them from all over.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:27 AM
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35. Why do they swab the place they put in the execution needle with disinfectant beforehand?
Just one of those habits we get into.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:05 PM
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14. A TWO TIME KILLER!! Cry me a fucking river and let him burn in hell.
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 10:06 PM by seriousstan
If there is a God, he will suffer from his lung cancer in hell for time eternal.

Jimmy Dale Bland was sentenced to death for the 1996 murder of Doyle Rains. Before 1996, Bland served 20 years of a 60 year sentence for manslaughter.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:22 PM
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18. Good thing you're not God!
Very sad to see someone wishing another human being would "suffer in hell for time eternal."

:puke:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:23 PM
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19. It's a good thing that there are no wrongly convicted people on death row
The death of one innocent via state-sanctioned murder irrevocably invalidates the entire nominal justification for capital punishment, which is frankly pretty flawed in any case.



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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:35 PM
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20. But...but...but...he had been put away in prison where he would never kill again...
until he was let out...
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:43 PM
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21. Where's your sypathy for the "real" victim in all this? You know, the 2 time killer.
I am sure he had a very bad childhood that I should worry about.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:03 PM
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24. So, in your world, the only two options
Are "let him go free to kill again" and "kill the bastard," right?

It must be simple to live in such a clear-cut, black and white world.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:45 PM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:18 AM
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29. Believe it or not, I would like to see a moratorium on the death penalty...
because while I honestly have little objection to it in theory, there are major flaws in its current practice. I'm in agreement with the USSC decision of 72 which led to that moratorium. Particularly their discomfort with the "and unusual part" Which, as you are probably aware, had nothing to do with method of execution, but instead with how capital cases are pursued. Alas, despite my wishes, there is currently no moratorium. In light of that, and this may be a bit cynical upon my part, I'm not unduly saddened that the gentleman in question was executed rather than receiving a commutation of his original sentence. Perhaps he was a victim of his time?
I am not bloodthirsty nor do I possess quasi-religious fervor.
Which is the more barbaric and sadistic:
terminating a man's existence
or
locking him in a cage for decades?
Also, I do believe in prison reform. It is stupid to incarcerate someone under the present conditions and then expect them to "be good" upon release when they are given little or no resources. Patently stupid.

And...dude, it was more mordant (or at least sardonic) than snarky. Snarky...jeez

peace,
mitchum
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 04:17 AM
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30. Shaw Fan?
If not, you have unknowinly made one of Shaw's arguments (in Major Barbara, if I recall correctly) about which is worse, locking a man in cage (and sentencing another man to watch him) or ending his life.

I also agree that a moratorium is a good idea, for the same reasons you mention.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:36 PM
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36. My college adviser was a major Shavian...
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 02:38 PM by mitchum
although I read some of Shaw's work, I picked up a lot by osmosis :)

One of the things that I find confounding is whenever I pose that question to those who consider me to be a "bloodthirsty sadist", all I ever receive in response are...cricket chirps.
I may be a cynic, but I suspect that those suddenly silent ones, for the most part, have no problem with what they consider to be a brutal underclass (other prisoners and corrections officers) handling the miscreant. Everything is fine with them as long as executions don't occur "in their name"
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 03:23 AM
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37. I Thought I Was One Of The Last Of Them!
I'm a major Shavian, and hate Tony Blair for having the nerve to belong to the New Fabians (let alone what he did to Labour), but I digress.

People who can't wrap their heads around that proposal can't - or won't - consider its implications about our current system, even without executions. While I'm not sure Shaw's idea is workable (he didn't think it was), some days it is very appealing: after so much, a person simply can't be forgiven or trusted any more, and with regret, must be removed. Permanently.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:06 PM
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15. My brother in law died from lung cancer
Believe me, they did the guy a favor. I have never witnessed anything so sad or excruciating in my life. :cry:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:09 PM
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16. really that's what i'm thinking
why can't i have this option for myself to be executed when i am terminally ill? it almost seems unfair
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:45 PM
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22. First we need to make sure you are not mentally ill.
For God's sake, the State wouldn't want to put you out of your misery if you were depressed and feeling suicidal. A lot of psychiatric help would make you see the bright side of life, make you feel life is worth living, a reason to believe, and then give ya the lethal dose. :)
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:19 PM
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25. The Death Penalty is Barbaric.
Kill someone for killing others. Old Testament Bullshit!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:51 PM
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27. No, barbarism would be turning the murderer over to the tribe or family...
of the victim
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 12:43 AM
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28. Agree. I watched someone die of Lung Cancer.
That guy got off way better. I watched a man go out screaming in pain from lung cancer.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:15 AM
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33. I watched my mother die from lung cancer.
It was not a pretty sight. And she suffered immensely toward the end.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:29 AM
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34. State funded euthanasia
Lucky man. :sarcasm:
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