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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:20 AM
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Following Threat To Cut Off His Funding-Cheney Admits He's Part of the Executive Branch
Cheney Admits He's Part of the Executive Branch
Vice President Dick Cheney’s office "will not pursue the argument that he is separate from the executive branch," senior administration officials tell The Politico http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0607/4679.html.

"The decision follows a threat by Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL), the No. 3 House Democrat, to try to cut off the office’s $4.8 million in executive-branch funding." Emanuel had scheduled a vote on Cheney’s funding for Thursday.

more at:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/06/27/cheney_admits_hes_part_of_the_executive_branch.html
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:22 AM
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1. the power of the purse at work.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:33 AM
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39. of course
he's ALL about the benjamins! :grr:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:25 AM
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2. Cheney blinked!
Boy, that was easy. He didn't even attempt to send out his attack monkeys this time.

The better news is, everyone is now more focussed on what Cheney is acutally DOING in the Executive.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:47 AM
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16. I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you.
This man has taken so much flack while enriching his cronies that he could step down tomorrow and there will be dozens of billionaires who will care for his needs and his children's needs for the favoritism they've received due to Cheney's machinations. And, yet, Cheney blinks. Maybe it's because he can't stand using his own money for anything, he's so accustom to using public money to buy his every need.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:18 AM
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37. Dick is a sniveling sneaky coward. He will slink away
to attack us from the rear again, the bastard!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:34 AM
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40. right
he won't be able to fly under the radar like he was doing before....thanks in part to the watchful eyes of many DU'ers!!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:46 AM
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46. Money is Cheney's achilles heal apparently...n/t
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:28 AM
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3. Cut off his funding anyway, for not complying with security regs
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:00 AM
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22. Damn right! No archive no funds! n/t
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:28 AM
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4. Now follow the law and turn over access to your confidential papers for security checks.
This is good for now he has to follow the Law or explain why he won't..
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:57 AM
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20. Just what I was going to say...
Maybe he can explain where the 10% he skimmed off each of the agencies budgets went. Could you in your wildest dreams think of where he put, used, or stashed away that 50 Million dollars....this should go to the top of the investigating list.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:25 AM
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47. I don't think he has any papers to inspect....
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:29 AM
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5. ok, so now back to
what the fuck he is up to



gee, a year ago he shot his friend in the face, now he shoots himself in the foot!

dickwad!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:33 AM
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6. WTF...?????...FLIP FLOPPER....The Idiot thinks he is the EMPOROR....Humpty is what he is
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:46 AM
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15. What message will this send to our enemies?
They'll see that the government is weak and doesn't even know what it's doing!

What a surprising lack of resolution.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:14 AM
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58. Yup, those that despise us are laughing at how fight among ourselves to the point
of unilaterly weakening our Nation.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:35 AM
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7. will he turn over notes and records now?
Edited on Wed Jun-27-07 08:37 AM by Solly Mack
that only says he won't pursue that particular arguemnt...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:37 AM
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10. Wait ... if he was claiming 'executive privilege' when he was claiming
that he wasn't in the 'executive branch', then how come his docs couldn't have been seized then?

(I've been away) ...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:45 AM
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13. I dunno
but this little piece of bullshit talking point is what they will be going with now

David S. Addington, Cheney’s chief of staff and counsel, wrote in a three-paragraph letter to Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) on Tuesday that the executive order on classified national security information does not give the archivists authority over the president or vice president. Addington said that therefore it “is not necessary in these circumstances to address the subject of any alternative reasoning.”

Addington is saying Cheney (and Bush) doesn't have to turn over his papers and what Cheney said before (“not an ‘entity within the executive branch’ )doesn't play into it because this (quote above) argument trumps that one and that makes it case closed as far as they are concerned.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:26 AM
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38. In other words, cheney and bush don't answer to ANYONE. They just want their $$.
This is the MOST FUCKED UP administration that has ever inhabited the people's house. They are doing everything they can to mock the government and constitution of this country. And we're PAYING THEM TO DO IT!!!

This is just wrong on so many levels.

:kick:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:39 AM
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42. Yes - that is what Addington is saying
that the President and VP hold a unique place in government that puts them above certain oversights.
That oversight infringes upon the office of the executive and impairs the executive, thereby rendering the executive ineffective. That Congress is overstepping its power when it attempts to seek oversight of the executive.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:29 AM
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48. Emmanuel just put a really, really big
red target on his back.

It's one thing to cross the political swords as parties due, it's another to cross Deadeye Dick.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:36 AM
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8. Good job Rahm! NT
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:47 AM
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18. As much as one hates to admit it, he does deserve a pat on the back.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:51 AM
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19. I think we have enough people who express dismay and demand apologies - we need to get better
at playing hard - and for congress the best weapon is $.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:12 PM
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57. Yep. I thought his move was going to backfire on him
by accepting Cheney's premise. Most pleasantly surprised to see it didn't.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:37 AM
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9. Which is it, you Big Dick?
Neither or Both?

Either way you're going to have to pry open that filthy little crust and corruption filled box where you've been doing your dirty dirty business....
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:39 AM
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11. Ha Ha!!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:42 AM
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12. Then let's cite them for breaking the laws regarding security documents and oversight.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:05 AM
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26. Thank you! Strike whilst the iron is hot....
Darth Cheney doeesn't back down from many fights....so let's get him whilst he's vulnerable...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:46 AM
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14. Freakin republicon flip flopper
What a pack of no account flip floppers the CONS are....sheesh, pitiful, they are pitiful and shameful.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:47 AM
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17. And so ends the story. Guess we showed him.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:29 AM
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30. Indeed...this will be the end of it, though we'll still have no archive
This is ridiculous. All DUers celebrating here have been took oncfe again by the political "game," as if it is all form, no substance. The question at issue has to do with him turning over those documents, not which argument he pursues in order to NOT turn over the documents. So, until he makes a full accounting under the law to the National Archives, he has won, again.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:59 AM
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21. Too late.
His funding should be cut off until he can produce a complete archive of his time in the vice presidency. No archive no funding.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:02 AM
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23. Come Friday
and he has his money, we will see what tune he sings.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:03 AM
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24. OK! So turn over all the papers you've been hiding. At least the ones
you haven't shredded. :eyes:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:03 AM
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25. In my best Cartman sing-song voice
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-HA!

:rofl:
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:21 AM
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27. Money talks! nt
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:24 AM
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28. Who wants to lay odds that this "blink" is temporary only to avoid current vote?
I wouldn't bet against this "admission of Executive Branch membership" as being a tactic to avoid the Emanuel effort. Once the noise has died down, he will reassert the same dictatorship bullsh*t.

J
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:27 AM
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29. I tend to agree with you, NA
That was way too easy.

I predict we'll have to go through A LOT of these maneuvers to get Cheney to either be more forthcoming, or resign.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:48 AM
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31. Cheney won't change..
.. until Congress changes and ousts him,
tries and convicts him for crimes.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 02:31 PM
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54. Yep ...
WAY, WAY, W A Y too easy ...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:55 AM
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51. Of course! He's ADMITTED nothing, he just "isn't pursuing the argument"....
...leaving him free to "pursue" it when it suits his purposes again.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:16 PM
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56. He's drawing too much attention to himself
People might want to know what he's spending all his money on and then they might start asking who he spends his time with. He doesn't want that kind of attention. Better to backdown and difuse the situation now and wait for a better time to fight again when people aren't looking.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:52 AM
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32. Bush plans public hangings. Dems threaten war gravy train. Bush backs down.
Edited on Wed Jun-27-07 09:57 AM by Peace Patriot
Dems double cars on gravy train, add two coal cars, grease the tracks.

'We'll have no public hangings in this country,' Harry Reid triumphantly declared.

It's a dance.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:54 AM
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33. R.E. calls, Cheney raises.
Edited on Wed Jun-27-07 09:57 AM by formercia
Watch Congress get bluffed again and humiliated.

I didn't see Darth fold his hand.

As for the documents,they're already shredded and turned into sludge.
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NeoGreen Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:13 AM
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34. Cut off the OVP funding until it is resolved...
Take the 4.8 million and let's have Mr Cheney ask for it back.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:15 AM
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35. well, that's over. La did da da da. Move along, nothing to see here.
Nice one Rahm.

Props from the left!
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:17 AM
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36. Well, that's mighty big of him. Can someone please make him accountable for violating the law now?
He did just admit that he's a part of the Exec Branch, big revelation. He's also admitted that he hasn't been following the laws since 2003. Hello??
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:37 AM
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41. Lost this battle, the Sith lord has not.
Return he will, and with an even stronger force.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:44 AM
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43. What's his game on this one?
Cheney could have funded that office out of the spare change in his own wallet. Dick doesn't fart unless there's something subersive going on in it.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:52 AM
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50. Not sure we want Dick funding his own VP office
:scared: I can only imagine trouble lies that way....

But that doesn't explain this inexplicable fold from Cheney. He moved very fast to defuse that talking point and get this issue out of the media's scrutiny. So Rahm has to keep the pressure up to get those papers into the Archives - I guess the question is, will he? Will he threaten to withhold funds until Cheney agrees to come back under oversight?

And I am afraid that the issue of Cheney's breaking the law since 2003 will now be swept under the carpet with this latest maneuver.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:45 AM
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44. Loser!
Edited on Wed Jun-27-07 10:48 AM by BurtWorm
Wimp!

Chickenhawk!

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:46 AM
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45. Flip-Flopper!!!
:P
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:33 AM
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49. Now throw his ass in jail. n/t
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 02:06 PM
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52. David S. Addington,
David S. Addington, Cheney’s chief of staff and counsel, wrote in a three-paragraph letter to Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) on Tuesday that the executive order on classified national security information does not give the archivists authority over the president or vice president.

Addington said that therefore it “is not necessary in these circumstances to address the subject of any alternative reasoning.”
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 02:28 PM
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53. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the article saying cheney still isn't going to comply?
He isn't going to comply because he feels the archivists have no authority over him.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 02:34 PM
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55. The politico article gives no indication of intent to comply with the archivists.
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