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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:23 PM
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Some examples of the darkside hijacking Christianity that DU's Christians oppose
Btw, I'm just starting this thread, other believers can post their own examples

"The Pentagon Unleashes A Holy Warrior" by William M. Arkin 10-16-2003
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/101703B.shtml

"Ten Things I Learned From The Pentagon's Prayer Team" by Jeff Sharlet 1-4-2007
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/46262/

"America's Holy Warriors" by Chris Hedges 1-3-2007
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views06/0103-59.htm

fair use cited for all links


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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:24 PM
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1. no shortage of material for this thread
i wonder if 'jesus camp' is up on youtube
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:26 PM
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2. Jesus Camp at YouTube
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:29 PM
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3. Thank you!
:hi:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:30 PM
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4. nt
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Liberal Jesus Freak Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:49 PM
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5. All....of....it....
:teeth clenched smilie: I have never in my life been as embarrassed to refer to myself as a christian as I have been since the golden days of Jerry Falwell. I like people. I try to be kind. I never shove my beliefs down other peoples throats. I am open to all. I am a follower of Jesus' teachings. I am sick to death of fundies trying to run everyones life. x(
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:50 PM
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6. Amen!
:hug:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:55 PM
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8. We know the difference between True Christians and the christofascists....
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:14 PM
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18. Yah - whoever "true christians" are embarassed by, so they "kick them out"...
.... thus preserving the illusion that christians are all good.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:18 PM
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10. I feel the same way
People make judgements on Christians now based on the Elmer Gantries of the world and the current administration that aids them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:52 PM
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7. Absolute unthinking beilef and worship but no change in actions.
"Worship Jesus" vs "emulate Jesus".
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:18 PM
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9. How dare you!
You should not publicize this stuff. You are supposed to just let the republican party and christians do away with our constitution. Why do you hate America? I'm trashed often because I think christians suck and say so. They want to take away my constitutional liberties. I'm too vested in America to let that happen.

I DID NOT SPEND 24 YEARS IN UNIFORM SUPPORTING AND DEFENDING THE BIBLE.
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Liberal Jesus Freak Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:47 PM
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11. I love your posts!
My dad spent 23 years in the Air Force, first husband 10 years in the Navy. I think both of them would agree with your sig line. I know I do! Sane christians recognize the difference between religion and politics. I love my god and I love my country, but I don't believe god loves America best.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:53 PM
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12. Your response seems confused
Do you oppose all Christians? Or Dominionists?

Do you think all Christians suck?

Or what?

Bryant
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:02 PM
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16. Yes, you did.
Whether you like it or not, you spent 24 years in uniform defending the Bible. And the Torah, the Koran, the collected essays of Thomas Paine, Ayn Rand novels, journalism, Farah Fawcett posters, free elections, backyard bbqs, and so on. Anything part of the free lives of American citizens you spent 24 years defending. You can't separate out the things you don't like and say they aren't covered.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:12 PM
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13. I'm curious how Christians ...
can claim that Christianity can be hijacked, in one breath, and then claim that Christianity is true faith, in the next. It isn't a paradox it's self-deception; if you ask me. But I'm not a member of any official religion.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:12 PM
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17. It's not self-deception, it's corruption -just like what happened
to our government, military leadership, etc.

Substitute the extreme politicization with those that claim to speak for the will of God, and use the name of Jesus Christ (as well as pre-existing organized religious bodies to advance their own agendas)-then mix the politicization back in and call it God's will (which it isn't) and beam it through the propaganda machine and captive media.

Nothing new about that, is there?

Moreover, Jesus Christ, the apostles, prophets and others all warned of "hijacking"-it's a constant theme of both the Old Testament and New Testament.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 08:18 PM
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14. lots of good stuff at Yurica Report
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:54 PM
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15. The Office of Faith Based and Community Initiatives, 501 (c) (3) and other tax exempt provisions,
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 03:05 PM by bobthedrummer
the political alliances of extreme Jewish and Christian RWers-manipulated by the corrupt as well as foreign and domestic intelligence operatives (many of these groups and organizations are simply fronts).

Those kinds of things are upsetting, to say the least, when the messages are nothing but lies from people claiming their lies came from God, lies that sanction evil. That is a modus operandi of the BFEE as it was in the Third Reich and the Roman Empire and throughout all recorded human history.

Up thread, the Yurica site link is linked to Cornell University's Center for Religion, Ethics and Social Policy/CRESP that is a really good resource.

Here's another article by Chris Hedges
"The Christian Right and the Rise of American Fascism" 11-15-2004
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/ChristianRight_AmerFascism.html
fair use cited

Surely there are more than just a few Christians here at DU that aren't intimidated by the biases of others and that work against the same political enemies and for many of the same causes as nonbelievers here at DU.

Speak up, what do you have as an example of the darkside trying to claim it is light and using Jesus Christ's name and Christianity as its base of operations?

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