BREAKING HARD: Congressional Democrats have conducted a joint caucus

of the House and Senate and the leadership has announced the pending release of a strong statement condemning the non-responsiveness of the White House in producing documents related to the decision to conduct domestic surveillance.

The roughly 200 word statement will be concise, to the point, and relatively hard-hitting in that it indirectly implies a strong disapproval of the actions that the Executive branch has undertaken to shield itself from congressional oversight.

Looking for a link....

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How about another non-binding resolution to go with it?

Or a resolution regarding women victimized during the Pelloponesian Wars?

Now we're getting some action!

:eyes:

It just make us look like a bunch of whining loonies... :sarcasm:

...for the failure to comply with document requests and subpeonas.

Way to step up.

Dear Mr. President,

So you have stolen 2 elections, lied to get us into a war, have a Vice President who
runs a criminal operation, and you have spied on us.

Please don't do it again.

XOXOXO

The Dems.

This time I mean it, you old goat!

JK, CD,
Your backdoor party

:rofl:

"This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

that table!!...impeach...enough of the rethoric!!

stand up to the fuckers for once and for all!!

it is what the people want damn it!!

fly

hold out hope that congress will act. Not holding my breath.

About some strong actions?

I really hope that's a stronger response than it sounds like.

against this criminal administration....they should be ashamed of how true such headlining supposed fake news breaking is in fact our reality these days.

Just wondering.

Oh god that was funny. Spoken like a true daddy with a little one at home. Good one ulysses!

"But any more of this drawing on the Constitution with crayons and they'll go right back, young man!"

:)

:hug: I love that "Why I oughta..........." post you make. Makes me laugh every damn time I see it! :rofl:

The whole thread is pretty amusing. :hi:

:patriot: adios friend.

Yes, you read that correctly.

...so I must not be believing it.

That'll straight out the neocons.
:eyes:

:shrug:

:eyes:

"shame-shame" motion with their fingers right at the white house too!

be their BEST FRIENDS any more??

...

snicker

Compared to what? What they've been going after the Administration with so far?

(can't remember where I heard that)but, it's process people. It's slow it grinds it makes you feel like kicking something, but, I watched this back in the seventies w/ the watergate affair. It was infuriatingly slow, but it got there...

Patience grasshoppers. :evilgrin:

I was 13 when the hearings were going on. Every night, it was sam Erwin or some other ancient face in my memory. But here's the thing about Watergate, and it holds true for other Republican scandals like Iran/Contra, like BCCI, etc, the perps never end up paying a price. See Ollie North, see John Poindexter, see Eliot Abrams, see so many others. What makes this different, besides the sheer audacity of the crimes, is that the Internet has allowed us all to open the door to knowledge about the goings on. Our expectations are much different because we know percisely how badly we've been screwed.

including the AG John Mitchell...Colson,Haldeman, Ehrlichman,Dean and several more that I can't recall off hand.

Most people never thought that would happen, but it did.

But your point is well taken with regards to the new dynamics. An old blues line goes like this : fellas, if you catch your woman doing wrong, don't whip her, it'll only make her smarter, and she won't let you catch her next time.

They've gotten much wiser and have a pretty well stacked deck this time around i.e. the courts the media, and a large swatch of the public.

It can happen for us this time too, but it'll be much harder and slower this time around.

Remember doing homework in the student union building because there was a TV and the networks actually boardcasted the hearings! Image doing what they were supposed to do, inform the public! OMG!

Sorry. We had a REAL press back then and REAL Democrats and REAL Republicans. The 4th Estate has sold out long ago and virtually every member of Congress and the Senate are bought and paid for by the same corporations that determine who our nominees will be, that put them in office and write the legislation.

Sorry, my friend. Not the same AT ALL.

This is a whole new ballgame.

:kick::kick::kick:

To say nothing of Paris, Brangelina, Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears, Chris Matthews and his extra-special friend Ann Coulter for a WHOLE FUCKING HOUR, Nancy Grace and the Flaring Nostrils of Justice and all the rest of the rising tide of puke and swill washing away what news it can't cover up.

Different time, different country, different fucking world.

I'm feeling a bit discouraged about Watergate these days. Seems like it just pushed Nixon out to make room for Cheney and Rummy and their buddies.

I didn't think so. :eyes:

you are most likely correct. :(

No wonder they're ignoring the subpoenas. They know nobody's going to push the issue.

Sure the USSC is stacked and will back them up. However, the whole process of challenging the runaway power of the executive will wake a few more people up and when Congress changes hands in a decisive way, they will have grounds to impeach the bought and paid for (in)justices.

wet noodle

:evilgrin:

NT!

Go get em Dems!

NT!

Let's see some indictments. Or Grand Jury testimony. I'm sick and tired of the posturing.

Fucking throw them out on the lawn!

There are some who advocate 'stern warnings'.

The true keepers of the "dry powder" pay them no heed.

The Senate should follow suit even if it it fails at cloture.

80% of the american population would applaud the move.

The House needs to censure the president it is that simple.

NT!

(like the rest of them)

:applause:

I'll bet that'll get Cheneyac's attention.

:eyes:

through the procedures

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.....

Just to criticize Democrats?

Why spark a hate fest against Democrats in congress with a made up story? They've done enough you can criticize then for legitimately.

By somebody. :shrug:

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Since there is no longer room to store the latest shipment in the Congressional basement.

-Hoot

:rofl:

Strong statements are nice. Even very strong statements.

What's really needed is action.

be ready people to realize this is a Dictatorship

after the realization
Congress will need to shut down the government
we maybe heading there

to stop these maniacs and destroyers of this nation and, if they get the chance, civilization itself.

Congress is doing nothing but investigations which go no where stealing laws being broken right and left and its obvious Congress is part of this stealing and broken government... We are watching this pathetic show of force...

meanwhile Bush the dictator goes on breaking law after law

I really see the state governments rebelling and Civil War will be next

with people migrating to safer places

This country is in dire straights and it is Bush Cheney and Congress and Supremem Court responsible

all these steps are going to the inevitable history lesson

The Power is with the People

Bush Cheney and the Powers to Be have FAILED and will keep FAILING

we get closer to the inevitable downfall

That is way too much partisanship. The next thing you know, they may slap their hand.

I'm sorry; I'd like to feel differently. If only someone could convince me that this means something, I'd be open to it. But to tell the truth, it's almost beyond depressing and heading into the embarrassing category.

to drive you to cynicism and apathy

with no link, no article, no story at all

I didn't read every response, and just assumed that there was one in there somewhere. Well, now I'm really confused.:shrug: The OP was hours ago.

It's satire.

Got it now.:blush: Well, all I can say in my defense is that it's very believable satire.

enough for readers to understand the satire.

I won't hold my breath on that because I don't want to turn blue.

Ah, those Democrats, they're so bold, ruthless and cunning.

The House and Senate have announced that a few members of their caucus have expressed interest in a non-binding resolution outlining a possible 18 month timeline for correspondence with the White House with an option to issue a "strong statement" after 15 months if a bipartisan committee believes the executive branch has failed to meet certain benchmarks. Of course these benchmarks may be waived by the Vice President if he feels they interfere with the conduct of his duties.

This is real progress, folks!

AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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:rofl:

Stern, disapproving looks?

nt

I hope Congress gets better results than I did.

:rofl:

:D

Ya gonna put it on CafePress or something? Way to go!!!

:toast:

:D

edit: www.swamp-rat.com

disapproval" -- INDIRECTLY IMPLIES - What the fuckity fuck????

...they'll draw up Articles of Impeachment to be introduced on the floor of the House in circa 2050!!!

I'm shaking in my sandals.:scared:

I want some action.

In his response to Fielding’s letter, Conyers said the president showed “an appalling disregard for the right of the people to know what is going on in their government.”

“The executive privilege assertion is unprecedented in its breadth and scope, and even includes documents that the administration previously offered to provide as part of their ‘take it or leave it’ proposal,” said Conyers, in a prepared statement. “This response indicates the reckless disrespect this administration has for the rule of law.”

“The charges alleged in this investigation are serious – including obstruction of justice and misleading Congress – and the White House should be as committed to this investigation as the Congress. At this point, I see only one choice in moving forward, and that is to enforce the rule of law set forth in these subpoenas.”

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070628/NEWS07/70628019/0/NEWS02

A lot of you people are really fucking quick to do the lemming thing whenever something to be incoherently incensed at is dangled before you...without a link, or any sort of attribution.

Jesus..."relatively hard-hitting in that it indirectly implies a strong disapproval of the actions..."?

Does that sound like anything other than satire?

P.S. Comprehensive searching finds no statement like this anywhere.

Duh.

OOPS, NEVERMIND!!!

I bet Cheney's shaking in his boots right now!

Ok, probably not.

I know that people who say things like this are always accused of being trolls by people who don't want to hear it, but this is how I feel: The Democrats are being a bunch of pansy-asses right now, and I'm very disappointed in them.