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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 06:45 AM
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Top-ranking US judge calls for secret trials for "terrorists"

Secret trials for terrorists, says US judge

* David Nason, Chicago
* June 29, 2007

A TOP-RANKING US judge has stunned a conference of Australian judges and barristers in Chicago by advocating secret trials for terrorists, more surveillance of Muslim populations across North America and an end to counter-terrorism efforts being "hog-tied" by the US constitution.

Judge Richard Posner, a supposedly liberal-leaning jurist regarded by many as a future US Supreme Court candidate, said traditional concepts of criminal justice were inadequate to deal with the terrorist threat and the US had "over-invested" in them.

His proposed "big brother" solutions flabbergasted delegates at the Australian Bar Association's biennial conference, where David Hicks's lawyer, Major Michael Mori, is to be awarded honorary life membership.

"We have to fight terrorism with our strengths, and our strengths evolve around technology, including the technology of surveillance," said Justice Posner, a prolific legal scholar who sits on the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Ftheaustralian.news.com.au%2Fstory%2F0%2C20867%2C21986986-2702%2C00.html%3Ffrom%3Dpublic_rss


Little more to be said, I guess, except welcome folks to Police State USA
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 06:49 AM
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1. apparently Posner does not realize
or care that the majority of 'terrorists' in GITMO have no charges against them? Is he also not aware of all of the innocents let go from there? This is insane!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 06:52 AM
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2. Any judge who promotes violating the constitution
should be fired/impeached whatever. Fugg this fascist.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 06:53 AM
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3. He also wins the prize for Orwellian newspeak
From the same article:

He said it was "quite misplaced" to suggest national security measures in force or contemplated in the US could endanger liberty and undermine the political system. This was because governments could no longer conceal what they did: "We have a very aggressive media and a huge and complex government where many people in the government are quite willing to talk to the press." (emphasis added)
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:08 AM
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4. which is exactly why Freedom of Press is so important!!
It's the only controlling organ over governments.

If legislativ, executive, judicativ AND PRESS end up in one hand, then it's OVER!!

After that, the only chance to get control over ones nation back would be revolution (automatically and by definition), because ANYTHING critic you would say would be persecuted instantly!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:08 AM
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5. oh my!
I believe the man is insane! :scared:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:10 AM
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6. Aggressive media? Has he been living under a rock?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:16 AM
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10. The man is either an utter fool or a shameless liar. n/t

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:15 AM
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7. That's not even "doublespeak", it's just a bald-faced LIE.
He's either an evil liar, or he's lost his goddamn mind.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:28 AM
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8. Bush USSC finalist Posner was liberal (still is on abortion)-now a "pragmatist " Nietzsche guy who
favors selling babies on the open market (a Reagan economist?)
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 08:21 AM
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9. Shocking. This should be known. Recommended #1
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:08 PM
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11. kick n/t
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