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BayCityProgressive

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:04 PM
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Cuba increases forested land

Almost 1/4 of Cuba is now covered in forest. One thing many people don't realize about the island nation is it's commitment to environmentalism.

http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2006/diciembre/mier27/01ambiente.html

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EstimatedProphet

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:04 PM
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1. Cool

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BayCityProgressive

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:17 PM
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2. Cuba lowers ozone emissions

http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2006/septiembre/mier27/41ozono-i.html

Cuban natural cosmetics enter international market

http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2005/octubre/juev20/43cosmeticos.html

Save our planet! Cuba signs on to Kyoto

http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2005/febrero/lun21/9proto.html

Use of pesticides reduced 20 fold in Cuba

http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2004/noviembre/mier24/48plagas.html

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donsu

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:17 PM
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3. trees are the earth's lungs - planting trees could be a big step the US

could do. we could do.

plant a tree and nurture it.

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Solo_in_MD

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:23 PM
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6. It would be the ultimate urban renewal

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:40 PM
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14. Plant trees? Wouldn't that

Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 12:41 PM by RC

take up too much valuable parking spaces in parking lots, interfere with our corn for ethanol programs, urban sprawl, etc.?

Doesn't this country have a program to cut down all the trees for buildings, paper and firewood? And also to be able to plant more corn for ethanol in their place?

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AnOhioan

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:22 PM
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4. Shhh,,,don't mention this to the Miami-Cubans

They might realize they are full of (expletive deleted)

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malaise

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:23 PM
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7. LOL

:rofl: :rofl:

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Solo_in_MD

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:22 PM
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5. Or its inability to industrialize/modernize

Between the fall of the Soviet Union, the embargo from the US, and international sugar production, its damn close to being a 3rd world country economically. Recently I listened to a discussiont that made the point the best thing Castro could do for his country is die, so the US will lift the embargo. It had a ring of truth to it.

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malaise

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:24 PM
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8. In the event of a major disaster on this planet

Who do you think will survive - self-sufficient Cubans or self-indulgent Americans?

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Solo_in_MD

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:29 PM
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10. Both

The cites and the snow belts will die. Those in the more sparesly popualated west will do okay. That would also have been true if there had been a Y2K meltdown. Of course those are the deep red areas...maybe the survivalist wing nuts know something the well bred city folk do not.

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malaise

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:45 PM
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15. Valid response

but there are millions of survivalist blue folks as well.

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Mika

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Sun Feb-04-07 01:16 PM
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17. Self survival is one thing, national survival is quite another.

Cubans have done quite well at retaining their sovereignty as well as building good infrastructure in spite of the imperialist pressures (embargoes, extra territorial sanctions, etc.) put on the island over the last 48 years. Having the highest literacy rates, highest longevity rates, and lowest infant mortality rates in the world isn't just surviving, it is excelling.

These things are not the hallmarks of a 3rd world dictatorship.

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malaise

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Sun Feb-04-07 02:11 PM
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18. You know I agree with you

Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 02:11 PM by malaise

100%

Sp.

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eridani

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Mon Feb-05-07 01:14 AM
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21. Without the easterners to foot the bill for their huge water projects--

--which make the place inhabitable at populations higher than hunter/gatherer level?

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BayCityProgressive

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:25 PM
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9. The embargo will not

be lifted when Castro dies. They have already made that clear. It will not be lifted until capitalism is resotred to Cuba. Which I don't think is going to happen anytime soon. I actually think more latin American countries are on their way to abandoning capitalism.

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Solo_in_MD

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:30 PM
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12. Once the Castro era is over, Cuba will not remain in its current form

Without the single heroic leader figure, there will be calls for reform and opening of the nation. I would expect a semi socialist state to evolve.

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Mika

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:30 PM
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11. Hmm, a 3rd world country with world class universal ed and health care and no homeless.

I wonder what that makes the US where 10's of millions go without health care and millions of children are homeless.

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BayCityProgressive

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Sun Feb-04-07 12:39 PM
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13. exactly.

I don't see Cuba changing it's economic strucutre much unless it is to strengthen socialism. China has been subsidizing them a lot and now they have partnerships all over latin America. They have already passed some measures to restrict the small amount of capital they let in. Also, Castro doesn't call all the shots. They have a parliament. Their constitution has been changed due to the will of the people a few times now, and they also have workers parliaments that do have say in policy. Is Cuba's government perfect? Absolutely not...but neither is ours. We would all be better off if we could learn from eachother.

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Mika

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Sun Feb-04-07 01:06 PM
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16. We would be better off looking to Cuba for techniques and methodologies.

As one of your earlier posted links suggests - pesticide free farming.

On that subject, here's a good look at Cuba's organic farming progress.

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sasha031

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Sun Feb-04-07 02:24 PM
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19. the forever propaganda we have been subjected to about Cuba

Cuba is an environmentalist dream, what is so horrible is because of global warming, the US being the biggest contributor. The entire Caribbean will be under water as well as the South Pacific.

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Mika

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Sun Feb-04-07 03:41 PM
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20. But but but.. Cuba is the enemy of 'Murica seeking to destroy us.

:banghead:

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