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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:37 PM
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Are you holding back a commitment for a 2008 candidate because of Al Gore?
I know I am--- If it was 100 percent certain that he wasn't running---I might have made a choice already.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:37 PM
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1. I don't have to make a choice until voting day.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:39 PM
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2. Amen. nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:41 PM
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9. I agree. All this 2008 talk is a distraction. I see very few of the GOP hopefuls being grilled.
It's the media helping bush* & cheney contol the message.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:24 AM
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73. I'm with you - why rush?
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:39 PM
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3. Yes.
The Jesuits taught me that restitution for theft requires the return of the thing stolen, and not a substitute, to the person from whom it is stolen, and not a surrogate.

Gore in '08 -- Deus Vult!
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:40 PM
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4. trying to stop a war in '07 first.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:40 PM
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5. I am. After reading posts here and other progressive sites, I say we're not alone.
Take the time to read some of the comments posted at HuffPo. There is definitely a ground swell of support for Pres. Gore.

He won in 2000 and he is way more popular now. Enough said!
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nono Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:41 PM
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6. One word
Yes!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:41 PM
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7. For some reason I think Gore is still interested in the job and will
get it the race.

It could be that he's making a few calls around to keep people alert to the possibility. I don't think fundraising would be a huge problem for him. Endorsements would come easily enough, and likely in great numbers.

Say for the sake of argument he decides to jump in. Say he hires Howard Dean as his campaign manager. Say he privately begins drawing up possible running mates -- Schweitzer of Montana. Sebelius of Kansas. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Bill Moyers.

Al Gore doesn't have to do things exactly the same now as he did in his two other presidential campaigns. He's much more evolved and may upset the conventional applecarts.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:58 PM
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26. I think the conventional applecarts need to be upset...
That's why I think the time is now for him to run. Schweitzer of Montana would be a great choice-- it would also put that state in the blue catagory (although, I think it is turning bluer by the day). I also thing RFK jr. would make an excellent choice... Edward's work with the poverty crisis would also make him a viable choice. I also like Feingold for the job...

But I have to agree with you and say the time is right for him to step in - but I think he should wait until a little later in the year (like say, after he wins his Oscar and Nobel Peace prize).
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:02 PM
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28. Hi, Blue Belle. I love your premonition on Montana. It can go as blue as
it wants as fast as possible and that would be a real, real good thing. Schweitzer and Tester have really put Montana on the map for me. I really like those two guys a lot.

We'll have to see what Al's got up his sleeve. He's one of the smartest people around and I trust his instincts on his own path.

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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:03 PM
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34. Montana politics is getting mighty intersting...
every once in a while, I'll get the skinny from my sister who lives in Kalispelle. I think that Schweitzer has a lot of good ideas and he would definitely electrify an already electric ticket. IT's going to be a hell of an interesting year in politics that for certain.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:15 PM
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40. Well, keep up the good work for the blue team.
We're rooting for ya.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:21 PM
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48. Gore and Dean as a team under any circumstances
would be downright orgasmic.:swoon:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:41 PM
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8. Yes.
It's Gore in the primaries for me even if he isn't running--but I'll vote for whoever gets the nomination if Gore doesn't, even Hillary.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:42 PM
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10. It's way too early to "commit".
I think a couple of candidates might still come in. I generally wait until I see debates and specific policies, not "talking points".

Al Gore is the elephant in the living room, though. He can take all the time he wants. Yes, I will be disappointed if he doesn't run. I think he would be handily elected. But, I would get over it and deal with the reality of my actual choices.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:44 PM
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15. I agree it's to early
but if he announced tomorrow.... I commit.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:47 PM
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17. Me too.
:toast:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:42 PM
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11. nope. i dont want him. but.... i dont think he is running anyway. n/t
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:43 PM
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12. Yep.
and if he doesn't run, I haven't decided who to support--but I'll vote Dem no matter who our candidate is.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:44 PM
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13. I Am n/t
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:44 PM
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14. Too early for me to decide
ANYTHING concerning '08, however; if President Gore throws his hit into the ring, he will have my full and unwavering support!

Jenn
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:45 PM
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16. No
I am holding back a commitment because it's February 2007 and the election is a long way away and the candidate I would like to support apparently isn't going to run. Sometime next year, likely at the caucuses, I will commit to someone.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:48 PM
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18. No, not at all.....
I would take any of the top 4-5 Dem's on the block. They are all supurb! I'm building up energy for the General Election.
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theguvnorgc Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:49 PM
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19. yep
no two ways about it...he's the one.
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:49 PM
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20. Clark not Gore is who I'm waiting for
But if it's Gore and Clark doesn't run, he gets my support.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:51 PM
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21. since i cant have kerry, i really want clark. n/t
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:53 PM
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22. Absolutely
I know already who I would support--General Clark.

Like Many Dems I keep hoping against hope Al will
jump in.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:53 PM
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23. Nope
I'm holding back a commitment because frankly none of the candidates really turn me on.

"In the primary you fall in love, in the general you fall in line." Don't worry, after the convention I'll fall in line and fully support the nominee. But at this point no one (including Gore)makes me feel like going door to door. If my caucus was today, I would sign in as Uncommitted.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:54 PM
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24. Yes.
If Gore does not run, I will vote for the Democratic nominee.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 12:57 PM
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25. Personally, I'd Find It To Be Amazingly Silly And Closed Minded To Already Have A Commitment.
Why the hell does there have to be a 'commitment' to any of our candidates right now? Are we that small minded that we can't leave our opinions open throughout the campaigns to be objective and flexible in who we support most? 2008 is still quite a bit away and I would think that to be committed already shows a lack of objectivity. There is a lot that remains to be seen from each candidate and I'm choosing to keep an open mind towards all of them.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:17 PM
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30. I'm waiting until summer, '08 and then some
why give the Neocon/Rove dirty tricks machine even more time to squash any candididate that looks promising? A dark horse comes out at the last moments, no chance to have months to flame them.
Wait and see but support the growing discussions, exchange of ideas ITMT.
Keep a close eye on how they trash the various Democratic candidates, where it comes from, who funded it, etc. They are gearing up now for that fight.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:14 PM
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38. we know all the runners well enough, but the gov running forget his name
i dont think there is anything silly or closed minded to have a preference. preference may not be commitment, i dont know. but i do know i have a preference. i also know any dem we have running is above and beyond what any repug is running and regardless i will find in our candidate the enthusiasm to support, whether or not it is the person i prefer to win. and in the mean time, i dont feel the need to bash the dems that are running against the one i prefer to win.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:02 PM
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27. I have a favorite today...that same candidate....
may or may not be the candidate for whom I cast my vote in the primary. It is only Feb. 2007...the primaries are still a year away. That being said...if Al Gore were to enter the race I would most likely switch my support to him.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:14 PM
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29. yes.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:23 PM
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31. I'm holding back because it is way too early to decide
The election is almost 2 years away for gods sake. A lot can happen in 2 years. Lets see who can fix the problems NOW
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:25 PM
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32. I don't need to commit
Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 01:25 PM by JVS
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:02 PM
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33. Cute post....what are you up to?

You've already outed yourself, Trumad, and claimed to be
a proud Republican (your post was deleted by the mod). You
have repeatedly bashed Gore and Gore's supporters. So, I guess
the Truman quote at the bottom of your post is all telling.
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:07 PM
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36. Wow-that explains a lot
:wow:
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:50 PM
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50. Huh? Trumad has been with DU forever
It's possible in the past that he's done some Gore bashing ( you and I both know there's alot of candidate bashing on these boards), but it's no reason to call him a Rethug. I've seen him post several positive Gore posts of late. Did you forget the sarcasm smilie when you wrote that? :shrug:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:59 AM
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69. He came out and admitted to it...
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 05:59 AM by catgirl
called us "Democraps" and stated he was a proud republican. The mod
deleted his hateful message. So, obviously this glowing post of
Gore is suspect, considering he was hostile about him last week.

There are plenty of repugs with 1000+ posts on DU.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:29 AM
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68. Trumad's been around for quite a long while.
Lose the witch hunt mentality.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:05 AM
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70. Re: a witch hunt mentality

He outed himself last week in a fit of hostility. See
my post above. If you'd like, I can give you info on
last weeks post if you need the proof, it's there. He
lost his composure.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:04 PM
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35. Yes.nt
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:10 PM
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37. no--I will vote for the chosen candidate, no matter who it is
all the candidates look good to me. The debate is awesome. Al Gore would be a very unifying figure for the base, I think--but infuriate the DLCers who run the campaigns.

I wouldn't blame Al for saying eff you to the whole ugly scene, though. What a meatgrinder. I wish we had public financing and no corporate involvement in our elections.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:15 PM
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39. I'm just hoping to survive until 2008. n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:29 PM
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41. There Aren't Any Other Candidates Worth Committing To
Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 02:32 PM by AndyTiedye
Leaving out Al Gore, who else is there really?

Hillary Clinton or John Edwards, who would expand the war? I don't think so.

I like Kucinich, but what is he polling at? 2%?

Clark has never even run for office before.

We can't win without Gore.

Well, there is one way. Impeach Bush and Cheney NOW. Pelosi '07!
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:33 PM
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42. Yes
But won't work for any campaign but Gore's. The others I will just vote dem.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 02:37 PM
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43. yes, claro que si. nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 04:21 PM
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44. Patiently waiting for him to announce
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:18 PM
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45. That's part of the reason but even if he'd announced (either way) I think it's too early to have
Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 05:18 PM by AZBlue
selected just one person - too much time left in which too much can happen. I certainly have front-runners, but no one's getting my definite vote yet.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:19 PM
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46. Yep. I'm not sweet on anyone but Al. n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:20 PM
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47. Yep.
But I am open to listen to the others.
I have heard Hillary say some stuff that wasn't bad.
I have heard Obama say some stuff that wasn't bad.
I have heard Edwards say some stuff that wasn't bad.

The rest of the field? Meh...not interested.

I'd like to hold out for a Feingold, Gore, or Clark so I am not going to make decisions right now.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:29 PM
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49. Yes I am
Too bad there's not a way to print these threads out and send them to him...
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 05:54 PM
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51. Yes.
I haven't a clue as to what candidate could possibly speak for me and the America I love.

(I'm sorry, Trumad. You deserve better than this. The real answer is that I haven't changed anything from the 2004 election).
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RegimeChange2008 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:16 PM
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52. I'm not committed to a candidate because it's fucking February 2007!
But I definitely prefer Gore to anyone currently "running" (theoretically or otherwise)
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 08:22 PM
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59. Thank you
Took the words right outa my keyboard.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:20 PM
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53. I will wait until the convention picks the candidate then I
will get busy to deliver my precinct, my county, my state, and my country to the Democratic candidate.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:10 PM
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54. Yup. n/t
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:12 PM
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Granted I love Gore and would love to see him run... but I am not
backing... because it is way too early.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:12 PM
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55. No. Why should I feel "committed" to any candidate at this time?
Who says I need to choose already?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:20 PM
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56. yup.. PLUS it's only Feb of 07. . . . (2 good reasons). . . . n/t
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:34 PM
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57. Yes.
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:55 PM
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58. Why in hell would you make a choice this early?
Unless you're working for one of the candidates (like with a paying job) it seems to me that everyone ought to wait at least till a couple of debates have taken place. Give yourself a chance to see where everyone stands. We have all the time in the world. I just can't see why so many people are all worked up about one candidate so damned early. I've got a couple of favorites but that doesn't mean I'm not going to listen to what the others have to say. My God, with all the vitriol I see here you folks are going to be so stressed out before any election primary you'll be to sick to vote. Lighten up and calm down people. We need you in 2008.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 08:28 PM
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60. YES , YES ..AND YES!!!...I WANT GORE..
Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 08:31 PM by flyarm
GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE

GORE , GORE ,GORE, GORE , GORE


HE IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB!!

BUT THEN AGAIN ..I NEVER PICK A CANDIDATE THIS EARLY..BUT I KNOW WHO I WILL NOT WORK FOR OR SUPPORT..I JUST WON'T POST IT..I HAVE MY REASONS..

former Kerry delegate here..

FLY
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 08:31 PM
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61. Thread summary - so far
Many "Yes"

Some "way to early to back anyone"

A few 'he isn't running - so I back someone else'.


Granted the last catagory is probably skewed in numbers (compared to the other) due to the topic OP pressumption of not yet supporting a candidate.
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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 08:32 PM
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62. I'm holding out for Gore and/or Clark. Dream ticket would be
Gore/Clark. Since we've had 7 years of nightmare, it's time to dream.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:18 AM
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63. I await his entry. I want him to run so very much...
I'm not excited by anyone else at this point, and Al Gore is my first choice.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:19 AM
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64. I'm leaning Edwards but this Iran talk worries me.
So in answer to your question, YES. :hi:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:21 AM
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65. Yes. My commitment *IS* to Al Gore.
I'm just waiting for him to announce.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:22 AM
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66. Yeah, and I think the board is pretty peaceful because of that phenomenon.
When half the board or so doesn't support anyone because their candidate isn't running- yet- it makes for much fewer flame-fests.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:24 AM
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67. Nope, I simply need to examine the canidates more. n/t
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:05 AM
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71. I'm holding back because it's way to fucking early!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:41 AM
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72. Yes
I am waiting to see...
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:42 AM
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74. I'm holding out hope for a Gore run
If that doesn't happen I don't see myself jumping into the primaries at all. That's ok though as there is so much work to do in my county and district to get ready for 08.

Julie
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:03 AM
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75. Nope. I'm waiting to see the full line-up.
I still don't think I've seen anyone who can beat a strong Republican candidate.

And until I do, nobody's getting my support.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:19 AM
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76. strong Republican candidate?
And who would that be? Jesus?
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