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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:37 PM
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US Carrier Locations, get yer hard cold facts not that age old hype
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 09:44 PM by FogerRox
Do a DU search, check it out, here and daily KoS, under my user name, Every damn time somebodies posting crap about having 6 carriers of the coast of some Mid Eastern Country, I just get this urge to yell at 'em and say STF up.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FogerRox/3

WE have one carrier in the Persian Gulf, the Stennis, who is 6 months into its deployment, which means another carrier needs to go out to the Persian Gulf area and replace the stennis. I think the Enterprise will be replacing the Stennis.

1) Nimitz is in India, @ Anchor, crews on leave
2) Enterprise as of june was in the mniddle of qualifications, easy coast.
3) Kitty Hawk is in the Coral Sea.
4) Ike is in Norfolk Va.
5) Carl Vinson is drydocked untill 2010.
6) Theodore Roosevelt is in Norfolk for a 9 month maintence cycle.
7) G. Washington just got out of drydock in Norfolk.
8) Stennis is in the Persian Gulf. And is near the end of its 6 month deployment.
9) Harry S. Truman is training on the east coast.
10) Ronald Reagan is in SAn Diego.
11) GHW Bush has not yet been delivered to the Navy.
12) Lincoln is off the state of Washington, from its home port of BRemmington.

http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html


Routine says the Stennis ( near the end of its 6 month deployment.) gets replaced by the Enterprise.

DU'ers, I have been saying it for a year, if we get 4 carriers in the Persian Gulf thats something to worry about. But every 6 months there is a rash of posting about the build up... yawn, gimme a effin break, do some freakin research before you posting up some bullshit. Carriers deploy for 6 months, then get replaced, YAWN.

I cant but think of the child's story, about crying wolf.

EDIT



This is the guy saying the Enterprise makes 3.

http://patdollard.com/2007/06/01/uss-enterprise-heads-to-iran
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:40 PM
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1. Thanks for the info. n/t
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:42 PM
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2. Thanks for setting the record straight. n/t
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:46 PM
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3. Sounds like good info. Hell, I thought we had like 30 carriers!
:eyes:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:49 PM
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5. 12 carriers and every 6 months, 2 rotate in the Persian Gulf, and every 6 months
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 09:52 PM by FogerRox
people freak out, and say "we going to bomb IRAN AHHHHHHHHhhh."

Trust but verify. Or in the case of the
Bush Cabal, don't trust, and verify.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:17 PM
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12. Yup. Never trust and triple check. You got it!
:-)
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:46 PM
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4. k & r.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:52 PM
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6. Thanks, but the "we goin to bomb IRAN" threads get so many more RECs
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 10:21 PM by FogerRox
We would need 4 carriers, minimum. 8-10 LA class attack subs to launch Tomahawks. Plus the best non nuke bunker busters are only carried by land based bombers.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:02 PM
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8. Heh, if I could rec more than once I'd do it for this thread.
Thanks for the info.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:55 PM
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7. This info is most likely true. My son was stationsed on the Nimitz
for 6 years, and they always did the 6 month rotation and always into the Gulf with a stop in Dubai. I don't know if they still do the Dubai stop because my son left the Navy about 4 years ago, but I know much of what you hear is SOP and not any increease in Naval ops.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:02 PM
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9. Plus the Persian Gulf is a tiny bath tub, not the place to start a war
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 10:04 PM by FogerRox
Iran could throw rocks off the cliffs and hit carriers.... I mean gee whiz Tomahawk criuse missles can fly 1500+ miles, why park a carrier 3 miles of the coast of Iran.

Plus check out the website

http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html

How many domains like that are around.......

Tell your son welcome home......
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:14 PM
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10. Troop movements are always a no-no. n/t
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:17 PM
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13. Then why does the US Navy provide CV locations in the public domain.
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 10:21 PM by FogerRox
Or why are you worrying about something the US Navy doesn't worry about.... thanks for the concern.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:21 PM
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14. Ya I was wondering that too
Nimitz maybe in India but when leave is up return to Persian Gulf

lots of people said Bush was bluffing on Iraq and wouldn't invade it

but he did
time will tell

But we do have Presidential Directive 51 in place

and the Big Secret Revealed by Kucinich which said that Democrats in closed door sessions were going to give Bush permission to invade Iraq

So if people are curious this could be some other reasons

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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:27 PM
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17. Rememebr the 15 British sailors held by Iran?
Bush asked Blair if we should pressure Iran with our carriers, Blair told Bysh to fuck off, in fact get the fuck out of the region with your carriers, I dont want no fuckin US mistake to endanger my sailors...

And the Us carriers all move away ...

Funny how that worked.... Its like diminished capacity, no one wants bush to run his agenda. They know Bush will fuck up what ever he touches, so every country is like......


ewwww get away.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:31 PM
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19. I have to agree with ya there Bush fails at everything
why because the evil he conjures is only destroying him and his minions

they still don't get it but they will eventually
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:25 PM
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16. Always concerned when it comes to our Military Men & Women
especially when Bush & Cheney are in charge

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:22 PM
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15. Yes thats true
obviously somebody doesn't remember that
or is blowing smokescreen
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:15 PM
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11. K & R !! Thanks, FR n/t
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:29 PM
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18. Thanks Laddie, good to see ya
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:32 PM
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20. Any info on the USS San Antonio? n/t
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:24 PM
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21. Still not yet shipshape.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:26 PM
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22. Thanks!
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:29 PM
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23. I thought ships movements were classified, in the real world, if an attack were imminent...
They'd never telegraph it with a publicly posted locater
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:27 PM
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30. Or, they would blatantly lie about the locations.
We only know what they tell us. If they say that the Nimitz is docked in India, who here can tell us otherwise?
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:42 PM
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33. Exactly. The only people that know where Navy ships are.........
are the girlfriends in the next ports.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:09 PM
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39. TO a degree....Subs yes. But Carriers groups tend to have a 200 mile wide electro magnetic footprint
Tends to make it a moot point......
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:38 PM
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24. You didn't mention the intergalactic carriers hiding behind the rings of Uranus
:D


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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 11:40 PM
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25. Lincoln is off the state of Washington, from its home port of Bremerton
"BRemmington" is no town, Bremerton is the right name. Thanks for posting this.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:07 PM
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38. I think my keyboard had a stutter......
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:17 PM
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40. thanks for posting all this. No problem, just making sure, being obsessive.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:34 PM
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41. Good advice "No problem, just making sure, being obsessive."
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:18 AM
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26. There is a carrier named after
Bush Sr.? So there will be one named after the chimp some time? What a disgrace, both of them...
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:43 AM
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27. "Big E" Deploys (7/7)
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 06:11 AM by Snazzy
"Big E" Deploys
Story Number: NNS070708-05
Release Date: 7/8/2007 2:05:00 PM

By Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class James H. Green, USS Enterprise Public Affairs

ABOARD USS ENTERPRISE, At sea (NNS) -- The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65) and embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 1 departed Naval Station Norfolk for a regularly scheduled deployment July 7 in support of the global war on terrorism.

This is Enterprise’s second deployment within the past 14 months. Big E returned from its most recent deployment Nov. 18.

Enterprise is the flagship for Carrier Strike Group 12, which include the guided-missile destroyers USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98), USS James E. Williams (DDG 95), USS Arleigh Burke (DDG 51) and USS Stout (DDG 55); the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64); and the fast-attack submarine USS Philadelphia (SSN 690) all based in Norfolk, and also the fast combat support ship USNS Supply (T-AOE 6) based in Earle, N.J. There are nearly 7,500 Sailors and Marines in the strike group.

...

http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=30463

(replacing Eisenhower grp.? Well some say Nimitz doing that...)


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Just out of curiosity, (not making some point):

Kitty Hawk sails out of Sydney Harbour (7/10)
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Kitty-Hawk-sails-out-of-Sydney-Harbour/2007/07/10/1183833492089.html

(On way to being decommissioned--G Washngton is replacement)


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USS Nimitz leaves Chennai (India, 7/5)
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage_c_online.php?leftnm=11&bKeyFlag=IN&autono=25112

(Back to Gulf)

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:50 AM
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28. Can we rename some of these carriers?
after this is all over.

Perhaps naming them after the Teletubbies would be apropriate.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:03 PM
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36. How about the USS Bill Clinton, or the John F Kennedy, or Robert Kennedy
Or the USS Jim Carter...
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FredfromSpace Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:30 AM
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44. We already have a USS Jimmy Carter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter

It's the last of three Seawolf class nuclear subs.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:56 PM
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46. Oh.... well I guess thats fitting..... considering
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:49 PM
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29. kick
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:37 PM
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31.  Just where do you get your info ?
Do you have an inside source that the rest of the country does not ?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here , however I do question everything .

I doubt if this admin had some grand plans they are going to post all the intel for all to see .
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:22 PM
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35. The OP provided the links. n/t
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:30 PM
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45.  I saw the links , they do not seem all that great to me .
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FredfromSpace Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:40 PM
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32. Three of these ships need new names.
The Reagan should be renamed the "Nelson Mandela" in honor of the hero whose imprisonment that rotten POS supported.

The GHW Bush should be renamed the "Franklin D. Roosevelt" to restore that great name to the fleet, missing since the old carrier of that name was decomm'd in 1977.

The Ford should be renamed the "JFK" to replace that recently decommissioned ship.

After that, I propose a return to the traditional names like "Ranger," "America," Constellation," and the others.

Naming them after recent, rotten presidents has just not worn well.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:05 PM
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37. USS JFK & USS FDR are real good names, Defiant et all are more traditional.
Very good point.
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FredfromSpace Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:27 AM
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43. Thanks. There is precedent for naming ships after "foreign" leaders
We have a recently-built destroyer in the fleet right now named after Churchill, for example:

http://www.churchill.navy.mil/

Maybe Mandela would not choose to have a carrier named after him. A hospital ship might have been a better idea.

But we could conceivably go with "Lafeyette," since the last ship of that name (a ballistic missile sub) was decommissioned in 1991.

In any case, the names of Bush, Reagan, and Ford have to go.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:59 PM
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34. k & r
:kick:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 01:41 AM
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42. Thanks for the KnR.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:11 PM
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47. Ronald Reagan Is In San Diego?
I thought he was....wellll deceased....:shrug:
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