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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:37 AM Original message |
The problem with Cindy |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Cindy is a reminder, subtle be that it may, that they have no real |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. yes |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Right. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
93. Yes - and no to the idea that only those that have a "stake" care - I was there in 63 as we started |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. YUP!!! Cindy was never the problem,...our society IS THE PROBLEM. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
90. Too bad she isn't taken seriously by some. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. go watch this video, people. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Wow what a great video! |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. idnit great? |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. it takes a lot of courage to bare your soul for a cause |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. why should someone whose son or daughter is in Iraq |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. Thank you for posting this. 11 recs and 3 replies |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
7. The problem with Cindy is that she comes across as a shrill |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. she comes across as REAL to anti-war activists |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. I guess you speak for all antiwar activists?...n/t |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. interesting |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Leftchick,like Cindy,speaks for me. nt |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Me as well. |
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DancingBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. And Bear makes three n/t |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
78. But anti-war activists aren't the ones whose minds need changing n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Perhaps that is in the eye of the beholder |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. politics took a back seat |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 04:49 AM Response to Reply #69 |
79. There was a draft |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Exactly |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Deleted sub-thread |
Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. Why is it that anytime a woman |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. That is in the eye of the beholder, is a subjective thing. |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
103. Yes you are right. Who advises her. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. Cindy has more courage & integrity than the entire zoo of congresscritters. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
39. she also has the luxury of not having to face election every two years |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. the problem is that some people are more dedicated to a Party than to |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. GREAT Post! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. If I could recommend this post, I would. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. I'm a Democrat because of my ideals. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. right, that does not go against what i was saying |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. True, but we can't use the party if we abandon it |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
83. I am too but my ideals are the reason I speak out about my party |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Sing it loud, Tom! Blind loyalty is the surest road to hell. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #37 |
98. Thanks for the warning about blind loyalty. |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
53. The US Military has not been DEFEATED! |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I do mean that the american imperialism has been defeated, and must be defeated. |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Ok...thanks for the clarification! |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. You will never build a mass movement out of Cindy backers |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
66. You fight a war, but there is no such thing as winning a war |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
82. You speak for me!! |
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5X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
92. Your post gives me some hope for DU. |
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liberalsoldier5 (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
100. I respectfully but STRONGLY disagree |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. I am ready to start banging pots and pans |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. This country should sound like Chile as it sought to rid itself of the Pinochet regime. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. kcik |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. the problem with Cindy |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. Cindy can do all of the above as a Democrat. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Let's court her. That would be a win-win situation, right? n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I love it! |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
71. Oh, there you go again being sensible!! |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. That's where I am too. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
81. Rather than creating a split |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
102. Why does the party have to own her? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. Toss in, a co-pted media that doesn't report the vigils, the protests, |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Tell me about it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Take heart. The corporate media is losing consumers every day. |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
27. I participated in the Vietnam War protests. |
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Decruiter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
38. Thank you DU and thank you Cindy for standing up for our Democracy. |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. The same is true with health care, civil rights, economic inequality, etc. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. The problem with Cindy is she's bonkers |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. What a DUMBASSED post. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. to say the least |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. One of many on DU lately. nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. huh, I would say takes one to know one but that wouldn't be accurate. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. Fantastic post! n/t |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
44. The problem with Cindy is |
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assclown_bush (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. And quite a number of DU'ers as well. n/t |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
50. There's no draft. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. Would she have done that had her son not gone to Iraq? |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I can't believe you haven't gotten attacked for pointing that out yet. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Or there is nothing to attack because it is truth |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. I was an organizer in the pre-war protests |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:21 AM Response to Reply #63 |
84. Which is why I asked where Ms,Sheehan was in those pre war protests. Can you answer that question? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:24 AM Response to Reply #59 |
85. She was speaking out and has been part of the anti-war movement since before the war began |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:38 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Attacking me won't help your cause |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #88 |
106. Then let me rephrase |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
52. True. n/t K&R |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
57. k&r...n/t |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. Some people have |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Thanks, Raine. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. what if millions of people staged a tax revolt? |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
87. See, the problem is us WORKING POOR with children need to SURVIVE |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. please understand |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:28 AM Response to Reply #58 |
86. Is it too much to ask you to make a 2 minute phone call to your reps? |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 05:42 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. So you are saying blogs are irrelevant? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #89 |
107. You must be the change you want to see in the world |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #86 |
105. My response was to the poster who |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
68. With a draft, many young people aren't demonstrating -- nor families -- |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
70. She has become a charicature. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-10-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No she hasn't. She's... |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. yes...but still, she has become a caricature. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Do YOU become a caricature when you make a big, well-intentioned... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Cindy is a caricature, Cindy is batshit crazy, Cindy is blah, blah, blah. |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
75. So I'm supposed to put up with false insults? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
77. Ya' Scared me there |
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EClark5483 (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
80. The real problem with Cindy is.. |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #80 |
95. she was on "morning joe" today |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
96. Yep. Cindy really isn't the problem. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
97. K&R |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
99. Peace unites us all. |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
101. I'm glad Cindy is calling out Pelosi |
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BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-11-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
104. I was there too; however, |
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