CINDY SHEEHAN (At Kos) "I Have Been Warned"

I have been "warned"
by CindySheehan
Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 06:16:05 AM PDT
I can't post here anymore because my potential run for Congress
is not on the Democratic ticket.

I have been deeply grateful for all of your support over the years.
Your love and kindness helped me through lots of sleepless nights
at Camp Casey '05.

If Speaker Pelosi does her constitutionally mandated duty and I don't run,
then I can come back and post.

I know a lot of you are hostile towards my candidacy. Please
understand that I am doing it for your children and grandchildren
(and my surviving ones.)

Love always,
Cindy

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/12/91014/1295

Love You Cindy, And Thank You for Speaking Truth To Power, And Asking Why ....

Thanks for being so brave and putting our country FIRST, Cindy!!

I wonder if Bush would describe what he is doing as "for your children and grandchildren"? Why in fact I'm pretty sure he would.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

justification (for the children - in some form or another) for any number of reasons.

It's a very common appeal to emotion from all politicians.

tell the difference.

:puke: What the hell is this kind of post doing on DU? :wtf:

I guess it's their website and they can set the rules.

Or maybe something like this would work...



Around here we'd need one like I saw on a Discovery Channel show where they buit the world's largest popcorn machine. With all these Sheehan threads I fear some of us may end up looking like this customer by the end of the day:



:popcorn:

I'll bet that truck runs better than anything coming out of Detroit via Mexico these days.

:hi:

Dogs bark but the caravan passes on.

By September, she'll be having a Press Conference to announce she's VP on a Nader ticket.

:yoiks:

to run for office? Is political office reserved for certain peoples?

it sure seems to be that way. She is not qualified? I keep seeing that. :eyes: She is not a Democrat so she must be the enemy. She said bad things about the Democrats, nobody is allowed to do that without the ire of those who are not willing to clean their own house. Very sad.

but criticize Cindy. We have one in our group, Muse. Never comes to anything but a social event. Never comes to rallies or vigils, or even free movies, has never held a sign, doesn't lobby or even call Congress. See all of those activist activities would interfere with keyboard commando time.

I have also asked many of these Cindy haters what they are doing to end the war. The most common response is a description of what they did during the Vietnam War - like that gives them a free pass today. One of them even told me last winter that it was too cold to stand outside and hold a sign! Poor baby.

Just makes me sick. Put your feet on the ground and THEN you can be part of the dialogue and discuss strategy. Keyboard commandos need not apply.

I applaud you for your involvement. I wish I could have been there again but it just is not going to happen for a while. After the darned house is finished I owe KEC hours of time I have neglected since this project started. I will focus there but I love hearing about everything you are doing. Hooray for you. I know exactly what you mean about keyboard commandos. I don't think they are worthless but I do wonder how they can complain when they don't do anything.

I am giving my hubby some time this weekend and going on a trip with him. But I will be freeway blogging along the way. :)

Muse, you do so much! There is no need for you to explain anything. My God, you are the one who dragged me down to Texas 2 years ago and I can NEVER thank you enough for that!! :hug:

I guess if there is one thing to sort of thank this horrible administration for it would be to thank them for getting me up off my ass and doing things. Also thanking them for all the wonderful people I have met doing them :hug:! We all do what we can do.

You have a great time with hubby. We are going to NYC in a week and a half to see some shows because I am obsessed and for our 25th anniversary! I can't believe he has not killed me in all those years!

I know it's easier to pretend that only you and your friends do anything, but I didn't realize that there is a form we have to fill out before having the right to criticize anyone.

I sure do. I understand busy lives and familes and careers. But to sit here and do nothing but BASH activists is just wrong, IMO.

I am not talking about people who criticize what Cindy does. They have every right to do that. I am talking about DUers I KNOW who honestly only come here to call Cindy names, yet they claim they are progressives. They NEVER put their feet on the ground. And no one is too busy to at least make a phone call once in awhile. I have a friend who is home bound and disabled and she does more to end the war than most anyone else I know. It's called putting your money where your mouth is.

Are you saying you know most of the Cindy "bashers" personally?

on a discussion board. That's one heavy assumption, I say. I would reckon many of us are quite active, even if we're not makin' the news like Ms. Cindy.

Meanwhile, identifying people who disagree as "haters" smacks way too much of what Republicans have done to us in the past. "Why do you hate the president? Why are you a hater?"

:rofl::woohoo::rofl:

That is the funniest and saddest thing I have ever read. Talk about Blind Party Loyalist. I don't care for Kos, never have so I don't really know. Was he serious? "Cindy undermines trust in the absolute goodness and wisdom of the Democratic Party." Surely not.

It was a sarcastic comment to somebody at DailyKOS who was reciting THEIR rules that Cindy would no longer be welcome there if she ran as an independent.

Again... this excerpt was sarcasm, or snarkasm if you please.

:hi:

she's exercising her rights and representing core democratic values.

by exposing her failure to represent "core democratic values." How could anybody object to that?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

Appropriate wages and housing, access to good education and to health care, assuring dignified retirement, adequate infrastructure, safety of products - these are.

These are the issues that matter to most voters who - except for many DUers, of course - will see impeachment proceedings as just another political game - the way it was with Clinton, and they won't bother to see the difference.

Plus, do you really think that there are enough votes in the Senate to remove Bush from office?

it doesn't matter if you succeed --
you have to have all these crimes on the record --
you have to ensure that no other administration can pull off as much outlaw behavior as this cult has --

There has no been a debate as yet -- many Senators could change their minds as the nation would hear the charges --

You can certainly be for both. There is more overlap than not, but there ARE some who are party only.

Though i would say that 80% of the GOP is for neither.

by running as an independent in the general, she could very well end up splitting the vote on the left, and put a republican in the seat.

but it doesn't address the core complaint some of us have with the statements directed against her possible run.

i take issue with the statements 'she has no business running' 'she's a political novice', statements such as these smack of elitism and are reminiscent of an earlier time in our country's history.

And I think she knows that. Her only purpose in running or threatening to run is to keep impeachment on the table. Hurray for her!

:applause:

i too, applaud her for being involved and exercising her Constitutional Rights.

I don't think there is a worry about splitting the vote and getting a Republican in office there either.

Cindy is trying to wedge off Democratic votes with the same justifications used in 2000 to make possible the Bush disaster. Remember Democrats aren't good enough so we need to send them a message? What we wound up with was Iraq and the other products of Bush and a Democratic Party that ran to the middle because they couldn't count on the base. Those first four years were the most spineless ever.

I see Cindy trying to repeat that disastrous strategy. Many are joining her too.

Not because she's a novice, but because she is clueless. Most republicans don't even take her stance on public funding.

is not the same as supporting her stance on an issue.

:rofl: multiplied many many times.
Only "non-clueless" people should be able to run for office. bwahahahahahahahhahhahaa. Best laugh so far today on DU. thanks.

Everyone needs to be active. She is doing a lot more than most citizens.

That shit ain't gonna effin fly.

and get back to us.

I am a Democrat who believes that our party has made up for their stance on slavery in legislation passed in the 20th century. But that doesn't change the fact that the Democratic party WAS pro-slavery in the 19th century.

I mean if I'm calling the Democrats the party of slavery they must be that now correct?

With that reasoning then since white people loved slavery they must love it now and that includes you.

I will hold you accountable for the sins of your ancestors.

That's what you're saying.

which was the point I was trying to make. No one has said the party STILL condones slavery. Honestly, I thought it was a dumb thing for Cindy to say but I do understand what she meant and you can't argue against history - it IS true. My own grandmother was a lifelong yellow dog Democrat and as bigoted as a person could be in her time. She wanted to leave the party over the civil rights legislation in the 60s! I can still remember passionate arguments with her. I was just a kid and I thought she was nuts and a racist fool. But there were indeed many Dems in her age group who were very bigoted. She was from the south - so it was a double whammy.

And I will repeat - the Democratic party has more than made up for its past racist leanings. But if you want to hate me, go ahead. And if you want to hold me accountable for my racist grandmother, that's fine too. I always have regretted never slapping the shit out of her. :)

Have a rum and coke.

Better yet a rumrunner.

:)

Puts my ass on the floor everytime. (which isn't hard cuz my ass is always draggin the floor) :rofl:

My ancestors were poor emigrants that worked in sweatshops and lived in poverty. They didn't support or gain a thing from slavery. Many fought for the abolition of slavery. Most if not all the white people in the lower ranks fighting on the side of the Confederacy were poor farmers that had no slaves. They were fighting because they were told to by their government. Your comment "since white people loved slavery" is very misleading.

She could and should be a sympathetic character but she has turned herself into a shrew.

Fame destroys everyone.

We are in this mess because the GOP agreed to march in lock step. On the one hand I don't want to belong to a party that demands that kind of loyalty but a little discipline appears to be needed to keep the Nader's from splitting the vote.

I think your post says a lot. You do want a lock step party. you know that's what the republicans do, but you like the discipline. yes it would be so much easier if everyone saw eye to eye with the party leaders. If the Party leaders are dragging their feet and some want more, i don't blame them. Corporate America has a lot of control in the Democratic Party. Enough to discourage many. If the Democratic Party can't provide a platform that the Nadar's and the Sheehan's like, then more power to them for standing up for their principles. Keeping our powder dry is getting way old.

Seems the Nader's and the Sheehan's are the ones who want it both ways. They want to "stand up for their principles" by splitting the Dem vote which elects Republicans. Which leads to an insufficient number of votes in Congress to stop the war or impeach the bastards.

Seems to me you can do it one of two ways: run against the Dems or try to change the Dems. I'm too old to wait around for some 3rd party to take over. I want my country AND my party back.

I'm staying and fighting for both.

You leave and we all get nothing....except your principles.

I'm willing to compromise on some things...like not engaging in a useless exercize of impeaching a president who will not be convicted and will leave us with Cheney.

That's looney.

There are no grounds for impeachment. Why do you think they went after Clinton for lying? They didn't have anything else. They didn't hate him for lying. They formed an "impeach Clinton" group in November of 1992. You got evidence he lied about the war? No. Because you can't prove it. Any more than you can prove I think Sheehan hurts her cause more than helps it.

This is why a lot of us get upset when this happens. If Cindy Sheehan ran as a Democrat and challenged Nancy Pelosi in the primaries, many people who are angry at her now would be sending her money! I'm a little calmer about this than I normally would be because I don't think a Republican would have much of a chance in Pelosi's district. If it weren't a safe district I would be steaming, because I don't want any more right wing Republicans in Congress.

If you "can't post here anymore," then how did you post this diary?

I would expect, instead, that you were warned that promoting a candidacy in something other than the Democratic Party went against the purpose of this site, and that's the truth.

I still don't understand how you plan to impeach the President between January 3, 2009 and January 20, 2009.



like DU.........you cannot promote a 3rd party.seems their rules are the same

Somewhere along the line Cindy became all about Cindy. She actually gets in her own way more than she does any good at this point. :(

... She has regularly said it didn't have to take just me to make this movement it could of been anyone of us.

Thom Hartmann ''Democracy starts with you, tag you're it''

At least her ego blew before she had accured as much pull as Nader.

Look at her jump that shark, willya?

I don't understand why the democratic party isn't willing to embrace independents when nearly half the population is prepared to register as an independent. As a matter of fact, I didn't think the democratic party rejected anyone just based upon political affiliation.

Confusing times.

if she wants to challenge pelosi, she should do so in the democratic primary, rather than trying to split the democratic electorate in the general.

I mean, she is getting publicity.

She is getting heard.

She is making people nervous.

She has the Party line all a twitter.

One Woman.

Wow. I applaud the one woman peace movement.

:shrug:

:rofl:

I will bet you right now that if Cindy does run against Pelosi, a repug will NOT emerge as the winner. Are you on?

dan rostenkowski's congressional seat was won by a republican. it's now back in democratic hands, and belongs to rahm emmanuel.

Pelosi's district votes almost 90% Democratic/Progressive. The last Rethug candidate barely hit double digits.

Let's say Cindy *does* split the Dem vote. Right down the middle. Now do the math...does that lead to a Rethug in office?

be a specially chosen one. Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay Marriage, Pro-Dependant Territories Minimum Wage hike, Universal HC so on and so on.

Cuz clearly the folks who live RIGHT FUCKING HERE don't have a clue.

This isn't Dallas or the Evanston. This is San Francisco. Pelosi's district will never elect a rethug. Never.

situation.

with our scared-bunny Speaker who won't let any of her minions even entertain the notion of upholding the Constitution.

Because they usually all vote for one of the Democrats or candidates least odios to them.

It's also likely that they mostly voted for Gavin Newsom against Green Party Matt Gonzales in the last mayoral race. Ironic in that race that Republicans voted more uniformly for Newsom than Democrats did for Newsom.

Thus, they voted for Willie Brown for mayor and they currently vote for Pelosi and not the placeholder Republican on the ballot.

ps-regarding the Greens around here:
In the mayoral electio accused (nay, lied) Newsom of contributing to Bush's campaign. (Got no time for Green Party -no time whatsoever anymore)

here in chicago, dan rostenkowski's seat was won by a republican.
if they can win in chicago, they can win in san francisco.

I was in Chicago for that election, and I voted against Rostenkowski. There are plenty of solid rethugs in my former home town, and most of the Dems are far-right compared to what we have out here.

Also, that election had an undeniably corrupt candidate running in a two-way race BEFORE * completely destroyed the GOP. To even compare the two situations is ludicrous.

Just saying that may not be a good comparison.

it's the seat now being held by rahm emmanuel.

in politics, anything is possible.

SF nearly elected a Green mayor last time. That's much more likely.

But they elected Milton Marks for years to the leglislature as well as John Molinari to the Board of Supervisors --both Republicans, though Marks switched in 1992.

Markos Moulitsas writes:
"This is a Democratic blog, a partisan blog. One that recognizes that Democrats run from left to right on the ideological spectrum, and yet we're all still in this fight together.

We happily embrace centrists like NDN's Simon Rosenberg and Howard Dean, conservatives like Martin Frost and Brad Carson, and liberals like John Kerry and Barack Obama.

Liberal? Yeah, we're around here and we're proud. But it's not a liberal blog. It's a Democratic blog with one goal in mind: electoral victory."

Explanation (again, quoting from the website):
"...the purpose of the site is 1) to elect Democrats, while 2) reforming the party, opening it up, and making it more responsive to its members, and then 3) to elect reform Democrats and create a progressive Democratic majority. Therefore, Daily Kos will not endorse or condone non-Democratic candidacies except in those very rare situations -- Bernie Sanders in Vermont is the only one to come to mind -- where there is not a bona fide Democratic candidate running for the office."

They're left-of-center, but I'd hardly call the "liberals."

Always a worthy endeavor. Do have fun playing with yourself. :rofl:

Oh well, then they're alot like DU then. So be it.

A private forum for Democrats told her she won't be able to use their website to campaign against them!

SHOCKING!

:eyes:

and it's not like anything she said before, won't be "used for political purposes" :eyes:

:hide:

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(i.e., DLC) "Democrats" makes one equivalent to an "untouchable."

when do we start calling each other comrade?

is equivalent to supporting slavery and war, eh comrade?

-- why do I get the feeling there's some distortion going on?

black votes and war. You're right.

is a bit hyperbolic, she could have said they aren't doing enough about those issues, certainly. But also they certainly don't perpetrate those things, like the GOP does.

and some people in the Black Caucus into account but outside of that, I don't see the Dems exactly leading the charge to stop the Republicans from stealing elections on the backs of black voters. Am I missing someone? Mr. Conyers didn't get oodles of party support when he went to OH.

the Democrats are NOT doing nearly enough to fight voter fraud, especially the disenfranchising of minorities and I don't have a good answer as to why. It's not, in my opinion, a good reason to throw up my hands and abandon the party though. There are lots of party activists who are working hard to change this. Like any large organization, the bureaucracy can be a hindrance, it's frustrating sometimes.

:)

You need 51%. That means you'll need people to compromise and to be loyal.

Of course with Democrats, you don't have to march lockstep. Debate, run your candidates in primaries.

not liking Cindy has nothing to do with being progressive.

Explain please how she is supposed to be a corporatist.

Meanwhile, I thought the issue was the war, not worrying about corporations. She's not thinking of opposing Pelosi for being a corporatist for pete's sake.

You may have won the prize for the stupidest post ever here on DU.

Or maybe your ability to distinguish sane people from insane people has been compromised by your own insanity.

I've been called both because I disagree with a peace activist who isn't even a democrat.

Go figure........

:sarcasm:

But the one bashing the Democratic Party using republican meme is A Okay in your book?

Now who is the insane one?

"I don't know one sane person against her."

Oh the Drama.......... "I have been warned".

She needs to give it a rest. Is she really that thick that she didn't know that Democratic sites would not support run against their party? She isn't banned, she just can't campaign on sites that support the Democratic Party.

She should can melodrama. I don't for one minute think she didn't know this ahead of time.

If she wants to run, run. She and her campaign can start their own website and forums where they can talk all the nasty shit the want about the "Party of Slavery".

why complain about it?.she knows the rules on sites.or at least she should.she is no exception to the rules.....shes just trying to get them to feel sorry for her and bend the rules.......right?

Divisive, as demonstrated above. For all her genuine strength, Ms Sheehan's stance is that of a victim, appealing to our compassion. This is a passive, blank-slate, negative role which will not work in current American politics.

The mind, individual & group, does not hear negatives. It usually moves toward, almost never away. If you are trying to quit smoking & think "Quit smoking," the mind will hear "Smoking," & light one up. If you think, in a positive manner, "Fresh air, better wind, good health," the mind will move toward that, not toward smoking.

Personally, I'd love to see the Democratic leadership embarrassed & moved to action, & I feel Ms Sheehan accomplished a great deal of important work as "the face of war protest." I doubt she would be as effective in the electoral arena. This is a critique of methods, not goals. Sadly, there are indeed many, many victims, & our national compassion badly needs to be aroused, but Gandhi — who I don't believe ever ran for office, did he? — would probably be shot even sooner in the US than he was in India.

Or perhaps it's that Ms Sheehan is not Gandhi-like enough. The comments above about "too much 'I,' 'I,' 'I' " also point to her emphasis on personal victimization. Rightly or wrongly, victims are inherently seen as weak, & to deliberately choose that stance in a contest is, unless you are an aikido master, inadvisable.

she stands for Democratic ideals...more than some of the Blue Dogs do.

What can you expect from Kos? He's a military ex-repugnant who has BIG problems with seeing women as equals...

I think this strategy that Cindy is using is brilliant...pushes Pelosi to do the right thing. We must Impeach...the evil that has ruled and ruined our nation must be dealt with. We must demand JUSTICE. Look what happened when Iran-Contra wasn't dealt with...they all returned and put us in this massive mess.

I am with you Cindy...brilliant political tactic, IMHO. You are brave and I so admire you. I got your back.

IMPEACH NOW!

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lack of understanding of Free Speech and our Constitution is showing.

And your acts of violence are something you learned while playing too many video games....

TPTB have been alerted. I ignore the willfully ignorant.

I'm sure her thousands of supporters would gladly go there and meet her. Why does she need Skinner or Kos to get her message out?

I also don't understand why she's so shocked at getting "bashed" or "smeared" after her caustic posting the other day, and I have no doubt there's been some of that, but I've also observed that people, including myself, who have come to the defense of the Democratic party, and been critical of some of her false and ridiculous statements, have been falsely and unfairly accused of "bashing".

Hostility begets hostility, you reap what you sow.

to bash the Democratic party on a Democratic website were beyond the pale, indefensible imo. And the melodramatic exit....let's just say I don't think Pelosi is feeling too threatened. She would be much better off having her own site.

Cause she is not.

Hell I'd send a donation for it to get started and all her supporters could go there!

Since obviously the rest of us are just deranged freeper trolls - I don't know why they want to be here anyway.

:crazy:

They don't compromise, which means they don't listen to anybody else. So nobody listens to them. They have to hijack crowds from other people.

If you wanna Nader Pelosi's district, be my guest.

She's being kicked off for the outrageous statements. Dems are the party of slavery. Dems started every war of the twentieth century. Income tax is bad. At some point enough is enough.

Democratic principles do not allow for the silencing of dissent. Unfortunately, the Democratic Party is not always driven by democratic principles, and neither are many individual Democrats.

Not all sites will seek to silence your attempts to hold an elected Democrat accountable. You will still be heard.

Our representatives shouldn't be comfortable with the status quo.

She's not a serious candidate.

She's not a serious threat to Pelosi's re-election.

But she might be just enough of a threat to put some pressure on her and the Democrats in Congress. Personally, I'd like to see her place more pressure placed on Republicans besides the President. Maybe she will. Maybe she has and I'm not aware of it. I do worry that maybe she is so tired of feeling ineffectual that she is targeting the only people who she thinks even care enough to listen.

She may make some specious, irrational claims in her critique of the party, but she's a citizen who is trying her damndest to end this war and I respect her. I don't have to agree with every claim she makes to admire her.

why it looks lopsided sometimes. Also, Dems are in power now, so that is where heat may be most usefully applied.

Party of slavery.

Oh, that's what it is. Why would John Lewis be in the party of slavery? I guess he's just a tool.

Only Cindy is the real deal. She's no tool.

She should lose ignominiously, IMO. And maybe then she can exit the political stage, now that her stupidity is so apparent.

I do. And I welcome Cindy's addition to the debate to represent ME, a San Franciscan.

Go get your panties in a wad about your OWN House election, not mine.

I'll post on whatever I want - I don't need your advice about my panties.

My wife is joining code pink as I type!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

"I have been deeply grateful for all of your support over the years.
Your love and kindness helped me through lots of sleepless nights
at Camp Casey '05."

She should have added,

"Sorry I forgot to tell all of you at DU and elsewhere in the Democratic Party that I hold your party responsible for starting wars that killed tens of millions of people in the twentieth century. Oh yeah, I am also sorry that I forgot to tell you that after my blink and you missed it retirement was over that I would announce my candidacy as an Independent in Nancy Pelosi's district by making offensive, untrue and wildly inaccurate statements about ALL Democrats and ALL Democrats of the last 100 or so years. I hope you'll financially support my my future tirades against your party and my campaign to unseat one of your representatives. I will be busy this next week protesting at John Conyers office or some other Democrats office.

P.S. I took huge shit on your sofa! CYA!

Thursday, July 12, 2007
******watch and see what she has to say....these should be good questions


Cindy Sheehan on Kudlow & Company Tonight


Anti-war activist, Gold Star Mother and peace mom Cindy Sheehan will appear on Kudlow and Company this evening for a one-on-one interview.

Earlier this week, Ms. Sheehan announced plans to run as an independent against Nancy Pelosi next year if the congresswoman doesn't move to impeach President Bush by July 23rd. The crux of her early stage campaign is built around Bush being impeached and an immediate end to the war in Iraq.

Of course, I strongly disagree with Ms. Sheehan’s proposals and her politics.

And while I intend to give her a respectful hearing, I will of course challenge her opinions.


07/12 11:20 AM

that none of the statements that caused the uproar over the past few days were directly addressed by Ms. Sheehan in her new messages? No "clarifications" (some of her supporters have been insisting that those of us who took her statements to be inaccurate and insulting simply 'misinterpreted' her). It makes it seem like she meant them "as is."

fuck that!

just having them in office is enough.

why the hell should they have to actually represent us?









(just in case)
:sarcasm:

:wtf:

greens or anyone else who doesn't march in lock step with the party that has done so much for us...

:rofl:

Which side are you on ?:shrug:

how could we forget so quickly? :sarcasm:

:rofl:

:rofl:

:)

You are splitting the party, which you just called the party of slavery.

Just go away. You are not helping anymore.

"children" and future generations with a heart more filled with honesty than most politicians because her son was taken for her and her family and friends in the bushits & corporatemediawhores' war on Iraq.

your attention-seeking grandstanding is unwarranted since the "Slavery Party" already showed you the door. You can go off with your other kindred spirits Nader, Perot, Buchanan, Anderson, and any other 3rd party delusional megalomaniac in whatever snowball chance in hell campaign you wish to mount.

That's what doesn't help her cause. People dont' like to be guilted into supporting one person/issue or another based on guilt.

I mean seriously, did she think that private democratic websites would promote her as an independent candidate? She's been around long enough that she could have easily read the FAQs on both dailykos and DU. Both are for promoting democratic candidates and she's stated that she'll run as an independent. :shrug:

n/t

I am and will do very well for them myself, thank you. I actually work for a living (so I don't have the time nor resources to trapse all over the country) for my child and do many other things that i can do to speak out, so the pontification of doing anything for my child as if I am too ignorant or helpless to do it myself actually smacks of someone who thinks themselves way more important in all of this than they really are, and frankly I hear enough of that BS from the "decider."

I appreciate your efforts.

They're a Democratic blog? I thought they were just a progressive one. Must be Markos himself.

I mean, I knew DU was a Democratic board, but not Kos.

Hoping to catch a slave or two on sale?

Slaves? Huh?

Or endorsing illegal income taxes. Maybe tomorrow.

THEN we can sell them into slavery.

Ahahahahahahahaha...hrk! hrk!

:sarcasm: (for the dumbasses who don't get it)

:eyes:

What the heck was that supposed to mean? Sorta non-sequitor-ish.

maybe people like Cindy could enjoy their retirement. :sarcasm:

others out there will believe! - Some peole have forgotten so much too fast and because the likes of Hannity & Limbaugh bad-mouthed you it seems that the light weights like a commercial were...confused?

Cindy Sheehan I hope you kick their asses!! Franc in Fla.

snide, two-faced & back & front stabbing; she will be 'out on the tiles', on the front porch with the big dogs where there is little support but for her ability to withstand the slings & arrows of a jaded, steely-eyed, snake eyed, cold blooded world without pity...here's hoping she has the guts to continue the remembrance of all what matters to her most dearly :thumbsup:

:spray:

:rofl:

before they 86 her? After all, she's not running as an Independent YET, only talking about it.

I'm surprised they didn't wait.

He never has and he never will.

(didn't like the Libertarian "income tax" bit either)

Running for Congress, she is going to be shocked to discover that a good number of voters care about other issues in addition to the war. They will want to know what she can actually do for the district and nothing less than a complete mastery of the district and its issues will be acceptable.

and on ending the war. Cindy's "mastery" is more in sync than Nancy's.

Will she be able to get federal money for BART?

Abortion?

Gay Marriage?

We apparently already know her position on the income tax.

And which can't be aired out on DU, as you well know. Please. We can do better than this.