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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:35 AM
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Poll question: It is widely believed that George Bush Sr. is the one who initially...
...promoted the idea of Dick Cheney to serve as Vice President for Dubya. Do you believe George Bush Sr. now regrets that decision?

And secondly, do you think Chimpy regrets it?

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Cheney shares with Bush the characteristic of reacting to situations strongly from individual psychology, rather than from an engagement in a seriously deliberative process. For Bush, decisions come by his "gut," an illusion of divine inspiration, which frees him of his pervasive fear that he is inadequate to engage any truly analytical decision process. In Cheney's case, his underlying passivity, his dependency solution and his authoritarian longings lead to a web of secretive actions, jury-rigged rationales and clever stratagems.

In 2002 and 2003, the world saw the result. There was no discussion in the small White House decision circle about whether invading Iraq was the right thing to do, only how to get it done because the president wanted it done. It fell to Cheney to work the problem: to manipulate intelligence and various levels of government to make the war happen.

George Bush Sr. had reportedly pushed the idea of Cheney for vice president in order to provide his son with adult supervision. (Nichols 168) What the father didn't realize was that the psychology of Dick Cheney - the man Gerald Ford's security detail dubbed "Backseat" and the current White House security dubs "Angler" - predestined him to subordinate himself in his own special way to the son. Bush's father sought a regent and instead found a man who would make his son's dysfunctions worse...

Source: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/24607
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:37 AM
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1. Everything has gone according to plan -- record profits for their friends companies. EOM
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:38 AM
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2. I think this "presidency" has gone EXACTLY as Papa Bush wanted it to, and thought it would.
Ditto for the shadowy, sinister PNAC bunch behind him. If there are any regrets from him, it is that people actually caught on. I don't think he wanted that.

George is too stupid to be disappointed. He still thinks he was actually the President this whole time.

TC

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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:30 PM
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6. I don't know...
...I think Papa Bush is not happy.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:39 AM
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3. Sr started crying when talking about Jebbie
IMHO, had Bush Jr just been a run of the mill President, Jebbie would have had a shot. But Sr knows because of Dick/Son Jebbie is toast.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:51 AM
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5. I think Bush Sr. blames Cheney for Chimpy's ...
...terribly low approval ratings. The public disapproves of Cheney even more than Chimpy. It was Cheney's office that caused the Plame mess, also Uncle Dick was supposed to oversee Rumsfeld and make the Iraq invasion/occupation go smoothly -- an assignment they probably feel he fumbled badly.

I think they blame him for a number of things they're angry about, but don't feel they can get rid of him.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:41 AM
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4. It's a symbiotic relationship of the mutualism variety
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