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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:30 PM
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Lieberman: Bush’s ‘Ratings Among Historians Will Be Greater Than His Ratings In The Polls Today’
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 01:31 PM by babylonsister
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/13/bush-lieberman-historians/

Lieberman: Bush’s ‘Ratings Among Historians Will Be Greater Than His Ratings In The Polls Today’
Yesterday in an interview with right-wing radio host Hugh Hewitt, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) praised President Bush’s policies in Iraq and predicted that Bush will be remembered by historians as a great President:

HEWITT: Oh, that’s fascinating. Last question, how do you think history’s going to evaluate George W. Bush?

LIEBERMAN: Well, I personally believe look, mistakes were made, and I know the polls are down, but I think on the largest issue of our time, which is the rise of Islamist extremism, that he will be judged as a president who saw the threat, and in the midst of an unpopular war, he stuck with it. And so I think overall, over time, his ratings among the historians will be greater than his ratings in the polls today.

Lieberman’s comments echo those by Rush Limbaugh, who in May said, “Long after we’re all dead and gone, when historians who are not yet born begin to write about this era, they’re going to place George Bush in the upper echelon of presidents who had a great vision for America, who looked beyond our shores, who didn’t just restrict himself to domestic policy niceties.”

It’s interesting that now, with the war more unpopular than ever and violence skyrocketing, Lieberman decides Bush is a great president. In contrast, in May 2003, when Lieberman was competing for the Democratic nomination for president, he said the Bush administration “seems to have been unprepared for the quick victory it predicted.” Similarly, in Sept. 2003, Lieberman stated:

I am shocked at how unprepared the Bush administration was for what to do afterward. They’ve left a vacuum which the terrorists, the Saddam loyalists, our enemies, have jumped into.

Rush and Lieberman may not be aware, but historians are already debating Bush’s legacy. In fact, Rolling Stone recently wrote, “Many historians are now wondering whether Bush, in fact, will be remembered as the very worst president in all of American history.”

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:32 PM
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1. He's about as accurate on this as everything else.
0=0.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:32 PM
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2. Only in cloud cuckooland.
nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:32 PM
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3. Actually, it's a fairly safe bet - they can hardly be any *lower*, after all.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:50 PM
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25. To be honest - I think historians will rank him lower than his poll ratings
100 years from now, they'll look back and say, "WTF were those people back then thinking? How could so many millions have been deceived?"

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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:57 PM
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30. Gawd, I hope you're right.
...my biggest fear is that FIFTEEN years from now, future progressives might be wistfully looking back to the Bush presidency, becrying that they'd take him as opposed to what they ended up with.

I like your scenario so much better. I cautiously hope for the social evolution of my countrymen!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:40 PM
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38. We could both be right
maybe in 10-12-15 years, somebody worse will come along that will make us want to return to the good ole days.

Sort of like how Reagan would make us pine for Nixon... and Bush makes us pine for Reagan.

But, in 100 years, historians in Europe, China and India will probably point to the Bush era as when the American empire really went into their last throes, after starting the decline under Reagan.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:33 PM
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4. He's right--the same people who are spinning today will be the same people writing the history books
We'll be hearing the same spin our entire lives
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:42 PM
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21. Absolutely...
The revisionist literature on W will dwarf anything we've seen before in size and intensity (or should I say desperation?). It will be so strident you won't believe it.
It's something we have to be ready for. Do you want people not yet born or too young to remember this administration getting their opinion on it from John Stossel, Bill Kristol, or Brit Hume?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:33 PM
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5. Hey Lieberman, anything measured on a nanometer will appear greater than it really is ! nt
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:33 PM
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It's Lieberman's only hope for himself, too.
If future generations are burning George W. Bush in effigy, Lieberman will probably be right next to him.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:35 PM
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13. LOL! GMTA!
Not only did we have similar thoughts, we seem to have
posted them within a hundredth of a second of each other.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:33 PM
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6. Lieberman's just spouting this BS in the hope that he'll be as remembered as Quisling is. nm
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:33 PM
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7. Sticking with a war that he will not win is nothing to applaud.
Win first. Historical applause later.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:34 PM
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Why doesn't Lieberman just say he's a Republican?
For the love of Pete, why does he keep pretending?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:54 PM
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29. he's drinking the kool aid too.
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churchofreality Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:34 PM
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8. He makes me physically ill. Thanks Connecticut....
I'll trade Joe Lieberman for Chuck Hagel.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:34 PM
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9. Well it is not that big of a risk to say what he said.
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 01:34 PM by MJDuncan1982
Bush is at 26%. Even if a large majority of historians think bad of Bush, Lieberman has a pretty good chance of being correct.

Edit: Spelling.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:34 PM
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10. He's getting loonier and loonier by the day!
What an idiot!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:34 PM
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11. "the upper echelon of presidents?" like Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln???
:hurts: :hurts: :hurts:

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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:35 PM
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12. I guess that all depends on what the meaning of the word "historian" is. /nt
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:35 PM
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14. How old is Leiberman? Is he healthy? Can I hope............
Never mind, I can't type that about anybody.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:35 PM
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15. Please God. Let them be caught together in flagrante delicto...
... and then we could boot both of them out of office in one fell swoop.

I'm sure historians would enjoy writing about that!
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:35 PM
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16. get off your knees Joe...
continued public fellatio is beneath even your dignity. :evilfrown:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:36 PM
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17. If * came to a sudden stop, Lieberman's head would go halfway up *'s ass.
What a miserable excuse for a human being.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:37 PM
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18. Could Joe possibly shove his head any further up W's ass? n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:37 PM
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19. Liberman's prognostications will be even less accurate than they are today.
:eyes:
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JacquesMolay Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:38 PM
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20. If 'greater' applies to effect ...
...then yes, his past actions will be casting a shadow on the future for a long time. Bush is a significant historical figure.They say you should learn from mistakes, so he's leaving us with plenty of material.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:46 PM
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22. "...in the midst of an unpopular war, he stuck with it."
Note to future historians: if you use some variation of that phrase, please be sure to add "and thereby fomented even more terrorism."
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:47 PM
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23. Bush II will be the greatest...
and absolute worse President in American history.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:48 PM
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24. this just advances my theory
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 01:56 PM by mnmoderatedem
shrub's administration has something "dirty" on Lieberman that they are hanging over his head. Maybe Joey visitied a brother in New Orleans or something...
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:51 PM
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26. Remember the 'debate' against Cheney?
Where he just rolled over? He has always been a neocon. This latest idiocy is no surprise...

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:52 PM
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27. I guess his constituents are happy with him
I haven't read about anyone complaining. I put him in the same calibre as our own jimmie the imholf. as low as one can go and then right underneath of that.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:01 PM
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31. Head over to My Left Nutmeg and you'll find constituents critisizing Lieber-worm
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/

Lieberman only considers those that vote for him as his constituents. All others are partisan attackers.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:18 PM
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41. well lets say I've been corrected
The lIEber worm will find himself alone in the near future
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:52 PM
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28. Liebermann what a delusional POS
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:05 PM
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32. Poor Lieberloon. Is it wrong to pity him? nt
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:15 PM
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33. I'll check the classifieds
"GOP needs Historians. No history degree preferred. Good Pay.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:17 PM
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34. What a craven black hole of emotional need
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:17 PM
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35. CALLING ALL DU LIEBERMAN DEFENDERS!!! YOOOHOOO!!!
You know who you are. Any questions NOW you idiots?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:18 PM
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36. Polls from
Israel no doubt.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:22 PM
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37. No two ways about it- this man is just delusional
I'm talking mentally impaired and unfit for office.

What a sorry situation for Connecticut.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 02:47 PM
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39. he's a fucking twit. lie-berman & fuckhead. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:34 PM
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40. Can't some piece of space junk fall on him already?
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 03:35 PM by Vidar
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 08:20 PM
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42. Yes...he will be rated crappy instead of shitty.
:evilgrin:
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