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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:15 PM
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"I have only one question... what will it take for you to change your mind & cosponsor HR 333?"
http://www.mass-impeach.org/2007/07/13/impeachment-activists-urge-olver-d-ma-to-respect-the-voters

Impeachment activists urge Olver (D-MA) to respect the voters
by Susie Patlove, Darcy Sweeny, Tom Plaut.

Over the past year, 24 town meetings in John Olver’s (D-MA) Congressional District voted on issue of impeachment by margins as high as 339 to 1. Some towns called for Congress to investigate the possible grounds for impeachment. Others asked that their resolutions and vote be included in the Congressional Record. On July 5 representatives from 15 of these towns met with Congressman Olver in Amherst to urge him to act now on impeachment.

We gave five specific reasons to impeach:

- To protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic,
- To prevent dangerous precedents and rein in the unitary executive, warning future presidents not to start where George Bush left off,
- - To re-establish openness in government,
- To avoid the extreme danger of a nuclear or other disaster if the current administration stays in power, and
- To heal this nation, our veterans and the world.

We rebutted the reasons frequently given by Congressman Olver and his Democratic colleagues to take no action:

- Impeachment won’t work - we don’t have the votes.
- Everything can change rapidly as it did during the Nixon impeachment investigations.
- Hearings will take energy from needed legislative work.
- During the Nixon impeachment investigation Congress raised the minimum wage, passed the endangered species act, and began to draw down troop numbers in Vietnam.
- The impeachment process will prevent us from stopping the war.
- We believe impeachment proceedings will stop the war. They will make clear that the cause of the war was lust for oil. The threat from WMD’s and our interest in liberating Iraq were lies.
- Impeachment will unite the Republicans behind Bush and divide the nation.
On the contrary, impeachment will unite the country against Bush and his Congressional supporters.
- If we let Bush hang himself, the Democrats will win in 2008.

After hearing that Congressman Olver was definitely against beginning impeachment proceedings at this time, Cory Bazinet, a veteran of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq said, “In view of your comments I will not read my prepared statement. I have only one question for you, what will it take for you to change your mind and to cosponsor H.R. 333?” Olver was taken aback. He finally answered that he would be for impeachment if he were convinced that it would be useful.

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:17 PM
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1. Impeachment In One Day--No hearings, no petitions
It's ALL on videotape..all the evidence and casue for impeachment of both Bush AND Cheney!

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/24608

Why We Need More Investigations Like Cheney Needs More Power

Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2007-07-12 19:51. Evidence | Impeachment

Their crimes stand open on the table before us. Their lies about Iraqi ties to al Qaeda are on videotape and in writing, and they continue to make them to this day. Their claims about Iraqi weapons have been shown in every detail to have been, not mistakes, but lies. Their threats to Iran are on videotape. Bush being warned about Katrina and claiming he was not are on videotape. Bush lying about illegal spying and later confessing to it are on videotape. A federal court has ruled that spying to be a felony. The Supreme Court has ruled Bush and Cheney's system of detentions unconstitutional. Torture, openly advocated for by Bush and Cheney and their staffs, is documented by victims, witnesses, and public photographs. Torture was always illegal and has been repeatedly recriminalized under Bush and Cheney. Bush has reversed laws with signing statements. Those statements are posted on the White House website, and a GAO report found that with 30 percent of Bush's signing statements in which he announces his right to break laws, he has in fact proceeded to break those laws. For these and many other offenses, no investigation is needed because no better evidence is even conceivable. And rather than taking three months, the impeachment of Cheney or Bush could be completed in a day.
But the investigations that Congress has pursued at its glacial pace over the past six months, while thousands upon thousands died, have produced another impeachable offense, the refusal to comply with subpoenas. That is what President Richard Nixon did; and his refusal to comply with subpoenas constituted the offense cited in one of the three Articles of Impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee on July 27, 1974 as warranting "impeachment and trial, and removal from office."
Bush and Cheney are claiming executive privilege. Nixon also tried that one. It didn't work then; and it won't work now. Condoleezza Rice is claiming, with more frankness, that she's just not inclined to comply. Even Nancy Pelosi ought to understand by now that the removal of the threat of impeachment is what empowers the White House to ignore subpoenas, and that the threat of impeaching the White House for its stonewalling would break down the wall even before we reached impeachment.
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