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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:16 PM
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Did Kissinger say, Its more secure to be an enemy, rather friend of the USA?
I distinctly recall a news program where an author was interviewed and Stated something like. "Kissinger said it is more secure for an indivudual to be an enemy of the United States , rather than a supporter. " Seems it was from Gore Vidal on maybe "Democracy Now.?" I definitely recall the story. Considering Panama's Noriega and now Saddam Hussein, its obviously true. Anyone hear the story and recall from where it originated. I Googled for Kissinger quotes. Nothing that detailed. Appreciate the help from our collective memories. thanks.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:19 PM
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1. Makes sense.
In general, you can only betray a friend, an enemy would never trust you in the first place.
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:21 PM
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2. we are all saying that now
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:22 PM
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3. Saddam was Americas very good friend and look where it got him n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:25 PM
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5. While Castro was an enemy from the git go,
and he's still there ater 40 years.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:24 PM
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4. Didn't Kissinger also say this...
"American soldiers are dumb animals to be used in the furtherance of 'our' foreign policy. Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or 'promulgated,' that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this 'scenario', individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government. NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order."

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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 05:03 AM
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9. Wild. love to know where you got that.
It is in quotes.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 03:57 PM
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10. I believe it was....
HERE!

:hi:
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:35 PM
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6. Another Kissinger quote - really despicable: he is a subhuman monster
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 01:37 PM by Divernan
I was just watching a film about 9/11 - a montage of short pieces from directors around the world. One was by a Chilean in exile in London, who described the 9/11 massacre in the 70's in the CIA sponsored coup of Salvadore Allende. When the military junta set up their torture camps, where the officers in charge were trained at the College of the Americas in the U.S., the tortures included disemboweling, dropping from helicopters, dogs trained to rape women, people being tortured in front of their spouses and children, electrical shocks to the genitalia, etc. The U.S. Ambassador complained to Washington of the torture camps and Kissenger's response to the Ambassador was:

"TELL HIM TO CUT OUT THE POLITICAL SCIENCE LECTURES!"

Here's a link to other descriptions of Kissinger's VILE, INHUMAN actions.

www.etan.org/news/kissinger/chile.htm


Kissinger covered up Chile torture
by Lucy Kosimar
(The Sunday Observer, February 28, 1999)

A newly declassified cable obtained by The Observer reveals the lengths to which Henry Kissinger went to cover up atrocities in Chile and give comfort to the regime of General Pinochet. The cable, describing their only meeting in 1976, shows how Kissinger bolstered Pinochet while hundreds of political prisoners were still being jailed and tortured.

The then American Secretary of State assured Pinochet that President Gerald Ford's administration would not punish him for violations of human rights. He told him he was a victim of Communist propaganda and should not pay too much attention to American critics. The cable is among files being declassifed for the Spanish prosecutor seeking Pinochet's extradition from London to face trial in Spain. The Law Lords' revised judgment is expected within three weeks.

Pinochet led the coup which overthrew the democratically elected President Salvador Allende in 1973. Kissinger's complicity has always been suspected, but the cable reveals details which will cause him deep embarrassment. The cable shows, too, that in 1974 he rejected the advice of his own officials that he should publicly denounce the plan by Chile and other repressive regimes to set up a covert office in Miami for the notorious terrorist Operation Condor. Had he done so, prospective victims would have been warned. Although the office was not in fact opened, the conspiracy continued to target and murder the regime's enemies. After hits in Buenos Aires and in Rome, the operation came to Washington with a vengeance. A car bomb killed Orlando Letelier, former Chilean Foreign Minister and ambassador to the US, and his Institute for Policy Studies colleague, Ronni Moffitt. Pinochet could feel confident that such activites would cause few problems. After all, he had had a warm private meeting with Kissinger a few months before.


Kissinger, dogged by charges he had promoted the military coup against an elected Chilean government, sought to maintain a cool public distance from Pinochet. But at his confidential meeting, he promised warm support. Kissinger had a problem because the OAS report to the Santiago meeting said that mass arrests, torture, and disappearances continued in Chile. The speech he would give that afternoon could not ignore human rights but must not offend or weaken Pinochet.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:14 PM
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8. good work!
:hi:
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 05:48 PM
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11. thanks wild.
looking for K quotes to pass on to a Kissinger Machavellian type.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 01:44 PM
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7. The fact that he's running around loose and not in prison for war crimes is
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 01:44 PM by Jim Sagle
proof of what he says - although perhaps not the proof he had in mind.
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