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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:29 AM
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History is being made tonight; my children and grandchildren will remember this day
The death of the neocon wing of the Republican Party will be celebrated for years to come on July 18th.

I propose a National Holiday; July 18th now and forevermore:

Peace Day.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:52 AM
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1. Yes ...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:01 AM
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2. you have grandchildren?
For some reason I pictured you as a twentysomething.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 05:39 AM
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4. You flatter me.
:)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:25 AM
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3. My children won't remember this day,
but I will, as one of significance for what we've all been standing up for.

Heck, I've had to figure out how to explain the Libby case to my eight year old, and it hasn't been easy.

But it's been educational, and will reverberate, and when someday they perchance ask for my revelations, I'll point to this day as a turning point.

:thumbsup:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 05:50 AM
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5. You'll be surprised how much the kids understand...
I have a seven year old who hears me talking about things and discussing events and the news...

Tonite, out of the blue over dinner, she asked me to tell her about the man that lied and told the world about the spy and why he didn't go to jail. I straightened up and was intriqued that she asked. In conclusion we talked about how Bush just makes his own rules and ignores the laws and his people can do what they want. She has been watching Star Wars a lot lately (its the rage among the 1st/2nd graders) and she made a lot of connections between "the dark side" and the battle of good and bad.

The most wild thing she said to me, when I explained that Bush tries to control and influence people through fear and talking about danger and threats and claiming to keep us safe after 9/11, she then responded "hey, just like the bad guy in the movie "The Incredibles"!! The bad guy made bad things happen and then claimed to protecting people from the very bad things he created!"

At that moment, I was almost speechless....a 7 year old summarized our post-9/11 world and 9/11 (??) more than she could ever know....
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:05 PM
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9. That was brilliant of her.
I've thought about the parallels between Syndrome in The Incredibles and the "War on Terror", but hearing it from a 7 year old is priceless.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 04:03 AM
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10. They really do get it...
Incredible how a 7 yr old can connect the dots and yet the majority of Americans seem incapable to figure out basic connections or lack thereof....

Atleast lets hope the future generations, your kids and mine, will be able to make it a better world from what the current keepers are doing....
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 06:03 AM
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6. Sorry to disappoint you, Steve, but Right-Wing Authoritarianism NEVER dies
Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 06:13 AM by tom_paine
(really, that's authoritarianism of ANY wing)

They though Right-Wing Authoritarianism was daed when Hitler was defeated, yet less than 20 years later, Right-Wing Authoritarians...likely highly placed ones, murdered a US President.

Six years after that, the same criminal Right-Wing Authoritarians killed his brother, who would have been President.

And on and on and on, this Lethal Union of Social Dominators and Right-Wing Authoritarian Folllowers is such an old one, so woven into our mythos, that the story cn be found on children's cartoons and Star Wars, Parts I-III.

The people who wish to submit and follow blindly will ALWAYS be with us. And the amoral BushCheney types who wish to put the followers in mental harness for their own personal gain, just as Hitler did, will always be with us.

Our nation was designed to prevent that dictatorial configuration, and the Founding Fathrers understood the Lethal Union, even if they lacked the scientific tools and words to outline and describe it.

After all, the Dark Ages were one long 1,000 year Lethal Union of Social Dominators and Right-Wing Authoritarian Followers.

Some five million liberals, they called them witches, were burned alive, in a century. And remember, all this with the population being much smaller than it was in 1945.

No, these forces are never defeated for long. If defeated, as they were during Hitler's time, they can easily infect the victors and ultimately spread the new form of the Lethal Union to the nation that defeated it's last chameleonic form.

And they are never destroyed. Clearly some prt of the human population will ALWAYS yearn for the Iron Boot to Destroy the Other, even if it means destroying themselves.

Since Right-Wing Authoritarian Followers have little sense of self or self-awareness, they seldom miss what was lost.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 06:12 AM
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7. Can someone explain the significance, to a Briton?
I thought this was just a way of getting Republicans to have to show explicit support for leaving the troops in Iraq, so that those Democrats running against them in 2008 would have something to use in campaigning.

How will that be 'historic'?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 06:42 AM
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8. nail meet head
you are correct muriel. that is all this is. even the repukes who are jabbering back home that changes need to be made aren't going to vote for this. expect GD to implode sometime later today
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