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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 02:44 AM
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UK: "'Big Brother' plan for police to use new road cameras". What else, tomorrow?
This is from the Guardian.

"'Big Brother' plans to automatically hand the police details of the daily journeys of millions of motorists tracked by road pricing cameras across the country were inadvertently disclosed by the Home Office last night." (my bold!)
"But transport ministers warn of concerns about privacy and 'the potential for adverse publicity relating to plans for local road pricing' also due to be unveiled this autumn."
"Civil rights groups and privacy campaigners may condemn this as further evidence of an encroaching 'big brother' approach to policing and security..."

Now I say (apart from the pricing plan): shall the restroom and the Nevada desert become the only private place left for people to be alone?
We're already got caught on cameras when driving and when walking in the nearby of a bank or an official place, we're intercepted on the phone (a scandal here in Italy, where politicians and personalities have been under control for long time), our behaviour is studied on the web, our e-mails tracked and traded, control agencies are set ready by world leaders to chase people's opinions on the Internet, religious leaders want to decide when/how/with whom/with-what-outcome should we manage our social agenda, so to say...

How long before they will get a drop of my blood to file me and my DNA?
Is Hegel's all-devouring concept of State coming back like a grinning ghost to devour our private lives?

Does the war to terrorism justifies all this? Rethoric question: very much NO. Democracy differs in this: I don't suspect my neighbour is a criminal. I believe he's a good person. Like me.
I'm tired of these leaders deciding things out of their own authority, as if it came directly from God and not from the people.

With all these damned crazy measures we're letting Bin Laden (if he's ever existed) and terror groups laugh at us.
Really, laugh at us.

The article from today The Guardian, http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,2128878,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:35 AM
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1. Two can play at these games...
The commonest and most-resented cameras at present are speed-cameras for detecting speeding motorists. And by now many of the devices that people use in their cars for giving directions, *also* have a feature for telling the drivers exactly where the speed cameras are - thus rather negating their purpose!

I am sure that as governments try to use an increasing number of surveillance devices, the public will come up with an increasing number of devices for, so to speak, surveillance of the surveillance.

Anyway, it sounds about right that our stupid government would come up with this notion AND then get it leaked.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 04:32 AM
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2. You are right...
It seems there was a clash between Ministers. One of them informed the source, in my opinion.
Note that some worry for the wrong publicity in the perspective of pricing and tolls.
Privacy is something secondary!

Perhaps I must learn to get used to it: "I've been watching you," sang The Police.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 04:45 AM
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3. our town is installing cameras on a one of our roads
it goes past the high-school and the penn state wilkes-barre campus

it's suppose to monitor driving speed, i.e. catch speeders

we've already renamed the road from "Old 115 Highway" to "Big Brother Boulevard"
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 06:26 AM
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4. BBB, 3B, TripleB: it looks and sounds smart for a roadname!
:hi: from fast-going insane Europe
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