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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 06:22 PM Original message |
Do you want to know the real problem? Well it's kind of scary. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. We knew this as kids, but ignored it. See, e.g., the end of the |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Have You Ever Wondered??? |
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Inkyfuzzbottom (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Don't look at me... |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm trying to teach my children to evolve into spirit form outside their bodies. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. I know you are right |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. Garrett Hardin's "Population, Evolution and Birth Control" covered all this handily back in the |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's been almost 40 years since Paul Erlich's book The Population Bomb was published |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. All you need to know it this- Cheney's commissioned report. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Let's just cut through all the reports, projections and bullshit. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. In light of how we have conducted ourselves for the last several thousand years, |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. That's the reality of it, humans CAN'T deal with this.. |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
52. Who's the 'we'? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. The "we" would be all of Humanity's dominant cultures, the "winners". |
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PetrusMonsFormicarum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. Zero Population Growth |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. ZPG always makes me shudder |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. No, they don't have to kill themselves. |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. I am talking multi-generational |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. And unless the average life-span continues to increase, that will stabilize |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. maybe not |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. Uh, ever heard of finite life spans? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. You misunderstand the concept. We have a birth rate and a mortality rate. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. "The Earth knows when to scratch an itch..." |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. I think a simplified and unscientific definition of cancer might be |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. Agreed |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. I always wondered why Sister Teresa was regarded a saint |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. I've read quite the opposite... |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. Mother Teresa was vehemently opposed to birth control |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-18-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yep. Some of us have known that for years... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. tax exemptions. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. damn straight... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Do you know that about three years ago the former Pope was in front of the Italian Parliament . . . |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I'd love the link on that. |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The Pope addresses the Italian Parliament: |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Perhaps celibacy produces thought that is directly proportional to ignorance. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. I read this... |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
21. Why do you hate America? |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Defective genes. Aside from which, someone has to do it. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
24. Let's start solving the problem |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
25. Where are the recommendations for this? Come on, people. |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
26. Everything that is happening right now is all directly related to this.. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
28. I have thought about this for a long time. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
29. Americans are using the lion's share of the world's resources, |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
30. I've been beating this drum for a while now. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. overpopulation and the fight for survival is the root of all our problems. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Yet I am both religious and I don't deny it... |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. I believe that the religious urge is a desire to |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. What's the tension in my life...? |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. sorry, I couldn't begin to postulate regarding your tensions. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You wrote... |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
36. There may be no one ruling group. But some are more powerful than |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. Step 1 to becoming a positive force for change is impeachment. |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
38. Science has helped us avoid the Malthusian trap for a while |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
40. The next hundred years will be more enjoyable to read about later |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. To bottom line thinkers, the supply of human beings is much greater than the demand |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm sorry but that is just pop bullshit |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Now, now. You're taking away his justifications for the OP's obvious anti-choice stance. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. And you know what? All of those advantages depend on ONE thing |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. Lots of people + prosperity = disaster (eom) |
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zippy890 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
55. we should join withother countries |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. If we don't solve our current problems |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. Believe me, I know. I'm a math teacher and got interested in Carrying capacity.... |
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Babsbrain (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. The Carrying Capacity of the land is the key n/t |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
57. You wont get any argument from me. |
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UnyieldingHierophant (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
63. This, as it always has been, will be taken care of in time |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I'll agree with that. But the survival of our species is the crux of my original post. |
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