Bonds hit # 753 and #753

does anyone care?

Go Barry!

Too bad the giants suck this year. :(

Nope.

Don't care.

No, I don't care whether some multi-millionaire steroid abuser hits a home run.

I really don't give a damn....

ETA: The Cubs beat the Giants anyway 9-8. Took the series. Gooo Cubbies!!!

I would like to see him compete one no one with the same conditions as Hank Arron.
I doubt Bonds would even be a mention in the score book

Even if he was roided up. He is stil a hall og famer.


is he the all time HR king? I dunno. But he has alwayss been a phenomenal hitter,

He could field, hit, steal bases and hit homeruns. He was a Hall of Famer before he roided up.


He screwed up big time if you ask me.

Since Bonds is the only player that can be even compete with Ruth for the title of greatest of all time (from a statistical analysis point of view).

Bonds isnt worthy to carry their lunch IMo.

I would rank the Top Ten Like this


Ruth (because he completely changed the game)
Williams ( becuse he would have broke the record , but took 4 years off to serve in the Army)
Mays
Mantle
Aaron
A-Rod
Bonds
Dimaggio
Cobb
Hornsby

Ruth
Mays
Williams
Aaron
Cobb
Clemente
DiMaggio
Hornsby
Mantle
Gehrig

..... but I'd have to add Ripkin to that list.

Most athletes are on drugs today. I mean people celebrate Lance Armstrong don't they.

what exactly you mean by "hit # 753" (is that what the bonds closed at today?), but I do indeed care.

LOL

The guy is a cheat so I do not recognize him as the legitimate record holder.

hmmm

the real trick is that pitche throwing two down the middle simultaneously. Yikes

;) NO, I don't care.

Pretty soon those record books are going to be full of asterisks.

:)

Who would want to break all-time high records in sports, ILLEGALLY? How could ANYONE be proud of that?:(

It has ruined the thrill of the game, IMCPO.

Personally,I think Bonds has been totally roided up,but I don't know what MLB can really do.If they take away his numbers it also affects all the players that he batted in,etc..That's not fair to those guys.Why should their numbers suffer?

It's also clear he isn't the only one guilty here,even now.There are substances that can't be detected that are still being used.I think MLB's best hope is that this will looked back upon like the "dead ball" era is today.

I would,however,love nothing more than to see Bonds hit the record setter and have the crowd turn their backs on him as he runs the bases. :evilgrin:

What a disgrace.

bill back on the field-stupid...not that I have any respect for Bonds at all,and him and his ilk have ruined my first love (baseball)for all eternity for me-I can't even watch it anymore....one week until training camp starts Go J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets

This record will be broken by A-rod in a few years.

But what about Ty Cobb's lifetime batting average of .366? Or Cy Young's 749 complete games? Nolan Ryan's 7 no-hitters? Even Cal Ripken's record will last much, much longer (probably forever) than Bary Bond's.

It's an accomplishment, but by no means the greatest record.

Just ask Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth. :)

Different eras lead to a lot of talk about which was better or which one wasn't,but the home run record has always been the standard,and will be long after we're gone.Whether that's the right standard or not is up for debate (I like Cy Young's numbers myself).

I wont argue that each of the players you mention deserves mega credit for said accomplishments,but the Home Run record is where's it's at.

No "s" at the end...

I remember when both Willie Mays and Hank Aaron were chasing the Bambino and Aaron ended up with the career record. I didn't know how long that would stand but I knew it would be for many years. And it has been many years now.

:(

It's breaking the record.

I'm personally unclear if Robinson is actually known to use steroids, uses something like Creatine and protein supplements or people just figure that someone that's got the tree-stump forearms like he's got has to be on steroids. So the I don't consider the steroids an issue... until I'm shown something conclusively different.

I have yet to see any evidence that says steroids actually make you a better HR hitter particualy when you look at his overall batting average.

than neither should steroid boy. As far as I'm concerned Aarons record will still stand.

With no judiicial process?

With no suspension?

With no official accusation?


I don't see how you can do that.

and medical tests? It's not a criminal matter, it's a baseball matter.

and sworn testimony with out corrobboration does not even a suspension make....I agree it is not a legal matter. but the testimony you refere to is criminal testimony related to Balco and is somewhat dubious.

Why is Bonds letting his trainer rot in jail?

I think he took 'roids...I just have "justice" issues. I think MLB has to make the charge. I think there needs to be proof... I think he needs to be suspended.


But here is the thing.


under the present rules he would get a ten day suspenson for a first offense or whatever.


He may well have been usiong a concoction that was suspect but no not legal..

I just thnk the case has to mafe by MLB before you put an astrisk by the Record.

And the huge question. If he was doping ( I suspect he was), but what he was using was not illegal when he was doing it, is he still a cheat?

And if he is a cheat for doiing this...How is he really any different than Gaylord Perry who is in the HOF and was an admitted cheat?

Finally, unless MLB charges him and goes through some sort of judicial process, is it "justice" to give him an asterisk?

threw a spitball once in a while Bonds-used steroids apples and mangos Perk

where is the suspension.And he has never been found with roids in his sytem. If he failed a drug test I would completely agree. but he has not.

Unless MLB makes the case , I don't see how you can give him the Bum's rush.


Besides everyone knows that the owners don't care. DIngers put asses in the seats.

Hell, I'm a fan of baseball, but the old timers were speeding, who knows what records were set by guys on "uppers" and comparing eras is a fools dream anyway...Babe hit in an era that could have been called the dead arm era...rotations were 4, not 5 pitchers and almost every game was a full 9 innings (for that matter, Aaron played many years with that)...pitchers paced themselves or got torched in the late innings, either way, it was a drastic change when relievers and 5 man rotations came in...so much so that they finally had to lower the mound a few inches because pitchers were too dominant.
The only comparisons that really stand up are how these guys stand along their peers. I've always felt the Babe was a mythical being, but at the same time I doubt he'd even make a major league roster today. Aaron, he'd play today, but no one can guess if he'd hit as many, more, or less homers.
The point is, Bonds has been a superb player for a long time, there is no one playing right now that has his resume. Put an asterisk by his name if you must, but better put one by everyone else too (played in amphetamine era...hit .450 against pitchers with more than 8 innings pitched...etc. etc.)

:applause:

is they had a lot more played games to break the record. If you wanted to be fair, after the number of games that Mays played if he didn't beat him he should be just out of luck.

But then, I also hate the Giants and their Barroids-worshipping fans. Meh.

before Bonds make it into the Hall in about 7 years.

A-Rod is only 31 (I believe) he has quite a few more years ahead of him. I believe he will own the record before he's done.

:bounce:

Bush-boy and Bonds both deserve *'s beside their name. Imagine how many dingers Aaron, Ruth, Mays, and Mantle would have hit on steroids. If not for injuries, Griffey, Jr. could be there, too. Go, A-Rod! Un-taint the inevitable HR record.

CUBS WIN!!!

THAT'S what I care about.

There is a movie coming out I am sure you will love......


lol just kidding could not resist when I saw the DK avatar

I belong to the club of lost causes....

Did not notice the typo until it was too late.

I love him.

Fuck da haters.

Hank Aaron will always be the home run king, until someone like A-Rod or Griffey catches him......or anyone else not on roids.