IMPEACH: CONYERS said: "WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR - LET'S TAKE THOSE 2 GUYS OUT"-Kpete live from S.D.

John Conyers gave me goosebumps. He arrived with "minor rock star status" -- (or better!) at a reception sponsored by the Progressive Democrats of America.

What a beautiful man - a wise and true gentleman, joined us just now in San Diego at the Holiday Inn for a reception. And there were goosebumps when he said on entering the standing room only crowd (filled with impeachment and other signs):

"What are we waiting for? Let's take these two guys out!"

(Huge cheers in the room!!)

Yes, he really said that - first thing as he came in the door here in San Diego and repeated it again later. He is mingling with us common people and will soon give a talk. I was so excited when I heard those words, I just had to share.

Also, Land Shark was here and talked to Conyers in the presence of others about the disastrous Holt bill as well as impeachment issues. Conyers stated that he would be going for inherent contempt - he declared that as his intent.

MORE LATER, kp


UPDATE:

Conyers Now Speaking

Iraq - after 6 yrs. no easy solutions
Clear NOW - Only thing we can do - GET OUT OF IRAQ AT EARLIEST MOMENT POSSIBLE!!!!
Thunderous applause

ALL ABOUT OIL


Enough is enough

SPEAKING ABOUT ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS, CONYERS SAID "WE NEED TO HOLD MORE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR AIDING GEORGE BUSH & MR. CHENEY"

Having spoken up himself, Rep. Conyers asked all citizens to get involved in speaking up themselves, defending the Constitution, and defending democracy.

He spoke up today, we all need to support him, and ourselves.

A big cheer went up when Rep. Conyers said he would now address election reform. Privately, before the speech, he indicated to Land Shark that Holt's HR 811 was defeated, yet there still remains some ambiguity about that....

In the public speech quoting Mark Crispin Miller's elections book "Fooled Again" Conyers remarked that we got fooled in 2000 and again in 2004. He remarked that his committee in Judiciary has an important jurisdiction over the DOJ's Civil Rights Division relevant to elections.

Just shook Conyers hand

signing off, with goosebumps, kpete

her simply for all the treasures delivered to DU, Peter or not.

:) :cry: :)

your name SaveAmerica says it all. Thats what much of this is about.

I am very much a female and quite happy to be just that

Peace, kp

I never imagined it would get worse! I still have hope, though, and I still feel we can save America, thanks to people like Conyers and DUer's like you who are not ready to give up and work to get the message out there.

:bounce:

Because these people are Inherently Contemptable!

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They’re immune to all laws, they can throw you in the gulag for any reason at all, and they can lock up all your money and property if you’re “impeding” whatever crazed satanic bullshit they’re doing now or in the future. So what can Congress or the Military or you, the hapless citizen, actually do to stop them? We’ve consulted top historians and constitutional scholars — the ones that came up on the first page of the Google search, anyway — and they’ve got some fun advice for America.

Congress can have double-secret proceedings, too! According to today’s Post story on the whole “contempt no longer exists” trick, there’s another kind of contempt that the House and Senate can independently prosecute: “Both chambers also have an “inherent contempt” power, allowing either body to hold its own trials and even jail those found in defiance of Congress. Although widely used during the 19th century, the power has not been invoked since 1934 and Democratic lawmakers have not displayed an appetite for reviving the practice.”
more..........................:evilgrin: :applause: :rofl:

"What are we waiting for? Let's take these two guys out!"

YeaH....:bounce:

And a K and an R!

and I already called his office and left a message.

Please let us know what else he says. Recommended.

he has been in Congress forever, since many at DU were still in diapers! Since GW was AWOL!

Diapers into their busy Beltway lifestyle

Aaaahhh, the gooood ooold days. How we long for that Age of Innocence. :rofl:

Could Mrs. Pelosi answer that question, please?

Thanks for that.

Very encouraging!

Can it really be happening?
Is the Honorable John Conyers going to grab our republic back from the brink of destruction and save it from these vile thugs?
Reading William Pitt's excellent post right before this one is a "two-fer" that has given me hope for the first time in years.
Waiting for Monday 7 am PDT seems like an eternity.......
Rep. Conyers, may the Force be with you.
This grand Republic needs you and we're crying out (literally) to get our country back.

:patriot:

Thanks for the thread kpete

Kicked and recommended.

I'll be watching for updates...

I FUCKING TOLD YA SO, NOW DIDN'T I? Remember when I kept talking about you all mistaking chess for checkers? Do you? Do you remember that? Is it sinking home now? Can you idiots hold your water and wait for it to happen? It's gonna happen.

(Sorry 'bout that. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.)

and begins impeachment proceedings. Until then, in my book, he is gutless.

He used to talk of impeachment until pelosi took control, then he shut his mouth. Lets ask the ones who died in the interim how they feel about it. Talk is soooo cheap. Harsh but true.

So, statements like yours are self-fulfilling prophecies, the very fact you express them tends to deflate the buildup of political desire to impeach, and make what desire that does exist seem more diffuse.

And then, when the prophecy in fact self-fulfills, will you and those similarly protecting themselves from disappointment by being cynical have a certain "I knew it" feeling? Bottom line: we each have a vote or an influence in whether this builds momentum or fizzles. In light of that, where do you REALLY stand? I suspect in favor of impeachment. Say so. We should not discourage attempts to light fires just because some other struck match didn't set the world ablaze the first time. Persistence prevails.

Words. I realize that you were not talking to me, but a collective.

The word.

Idiot:

1. A foolish or stupid person.
2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

Either definition cuts deep. Perhaps, it would be best if, as a people, and a party we learned how to parse our words and, rather than lowering the bar, lifted people up, even when those people were at their lowest and tired of the apparent rhetoric. By taking the high road - always - one can rest assured that more and more people would get behind the very process that had, to them, become wearisome and tiring.

Words are sometimes used to express a whole gambit of emotions, just as your post did. I realize that there are certain posts that are less than perfect and not formulated with all the proper gung-ho rhetoric that is best conducive to a pep rally or a motivational seminar, but that is when the bar needs to be raised the highest. That is when, those that do see, keep themselves steadfast in their knowledge and hold true to their ideals and continue to lift and build, rather than tear down and destroy.

Besides, I prefer the word ignorant. Ignorance is curable.

Peace.

I would, however, point out that as customarily used, the term actually refers not only to the profoundly retarded (IQ<20), but also to those who meet DSM/AAMR criteria for severe retardation (IQ<35). That point is moot in any case, since the term "idiot" is not in current diagnostic usage.

All that said, you might be interested in checking out the definition of "hyperbole."

Peace.

You've given me a ray of hope on an otherwise gloomy Friday afternoon.

Thank you.

Rep Conyers laid forth for the WH to comply to the Subpoenas issued. After that he promised that Inherent Contempt will be issued. I am in nervous anticipation till then.

If Rep. Conyers issues this the House will still have to vote on the issue. I forgot how many votes will be required for Inherent Contempt to pass.

I am tired of letters and tough talk. Time to IMPEACH!!!!!!!!

You are a great patriot Congressman Conyers!

I love the bumper sticker!

He's not my Rep. (mine is Sander Levin), but he sure speaks for me.
Looking forward to your report when the reception is over.

What a man, what a man, what a mighty fine man...

No more meetings in the basement for Dana at WP to write snarky articles about.

Where ya been?

Yes, we definitely are proud of him. Glad to hear he's coming around and I can't wait for inherent contempt!

Ready to go to DC for the march on September 15? Let me know if you're ready to put your marching shoes on again.

Impeach HER, then perhaps we'll get some work done.

she will 'allow' it to go forward, but not participate.
sort of like recusing herself - make someone else 'acting speaker' for the proceedings

she is, after all, in line to be pres if it goes forward successfully. I think she is overly shy about looking like a power-grabber

When it becomes abundantly clear to both Democrats and Republicans that the only choice for our country to move forward, will be to impeach Cheney and Bush. Congress is biding their time and when the timing is right, they will proceed. I doubt it will be a long drawn out process either.

She's been bought and paid for. Guaranteed.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!

Good news.

BEST DU THREAD EVAR!

Conyers is smart, he knows what he is doing. There is much hope.

:bounce:

...for showing us that you do have a big set of brass balls. Thank you for saying what needed to be said. Now please get your fellow Reps to act!!!!! Time is running out for our democracy.

truly has the heart of a champion for citizen's rights and he is not afraid to stand up to these b*sh apologists.


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heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee. :)

:applause:

He actually said that? I think it's the first time he's mentioned it.

Wow, there must have been some electricity in that room!

we're there? Of course I know it is but did Conyers say that?

Conyers himself said - it was all about the oil.

I still cannot believe that a politician joined with us citizens, gave us a forum, listened and spoke with a voice that REPRESENTED us. Oh my, what an awesome day we had here in San Diego.

telling the American people Impeachment is on the table?

Until I see concrete action, I just don't buy it...

I'm in love with this post

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

Once I was trying to figure out what the "ignore" icon meant. So I clicked on it at the top of one of my posts. I got this error message:

"You cannot add yourself to your ignore list."

As an activist who sometimes spends waaaaaaaaaaay more hours changing the world than my life can really sustain, it was a good affirmation for me.

Sadly, that error message seems to be no longer available.

However, I am getting sleepy and will be taking a nap shortly. For the rest of the time I spend on here before that, I have chosen to reply to all threads with Laurie Anderson lyrics. So, for you:

Big Science
Hallelujah
Big Science
Yodalay hee hoo

:)

You need us to travel in huge numbers to protest & show our support, we are there!

You need us to explain it to the people who don't understand the complexiites, we are there!

You need us to ring the phones off our Reps. hook, jam their fax machines, write letters, & fill their e-mail, we are there!

Anything, I am so ready!

Why, oh why, isn't Conyers Speaker of hte House???

I came to DU to announce the Fight for Democracy Rally in OH after the '04 theft and never left. I chose Rep Conyers' photo as my avatar and I am proud to say, it has remained there to this day!

The man with the calm voice is a GIANT among men.

Brad is on the radio now doing the Peter B. Collins show until 6pm Pacific time. The topic today is impeachment. Soon David Swanson is going to be on, I believe. Cindy Sheehan was already on. Can you listen and look for an opportunity to call in with your report?

Listen online: KRXA540

Call in number: 1-888-PeterB

I will have Land Shark do that if I can find him.

Brad just invited people to call in if they have something to say about impeachment. It's a news break now. Show back on at six mins past the hour.

never been on the radio, my very soft voice tends does not transcend my anger

We'll all close our eyes when you go on.

Seriously, though, I think it can be very powerful when someone who has important things to say and is nervous about being on the air cares enough to call in to a show. And this is a perfect place to try it, since you know the host will be kind to you.

Just have a glass of water ready, in case your throat gets dry.

I really encourage you to give it a go.

Brad just said that. I'm sure he meant you.

dialing

Remember how angry you are!

"What are we waiting for? Let's take these two guys out!"

That sounds like the John Conyers I know & love.

LS & Kpete pressing the flesh, hob nobbing with the "MAN".

Conyers is all talk and no action on impeachment. I am glad he gave you goosebumps. But he needs to do his damn job and convince Pelosi to put impeachment back on the table.

I hope he does so, and speedily.

Pelosi has him under her thumb obviously.

and HE BELIEVES - but he needs our help - all of our help. We are up against the most corrupt administration of my lifetime and perhaps in the history of our country. One man cannot do it alone. Conyers specifically requested that we participate as citizens. I think we all need to work harder, think more, speak, and listen. I left today's meeting with hope and conviction, kp

Why has he stopped talking about impeachment? What is the holdup? Did anyone ask him about this?

signed on to it. Since he has to do the investigating the Repugs and M$M would crawl all over that.

:shrug:

The momentum and crimes exposed has to PUSH Pelosi! And shame a few Repugs who will sign on to make it look non-partisan.

I hope he will announce the Inherent Contempt soon because it seems it's our only hope besides IMPEACHMENT! and we DONT'T HAVE MUCH TIME before the Criminals destroy more.

We could turn out some DUers at other stops!

.

:bounce: :woohoo:

Conyers is fantastic!

It just seemed to fade away like everything else .

He sure is a great talker, isn't he?

Thanks posting :)

but I'll take it.

K&R

See posts #80 and #83.

:kick:

I've admired his great courage and good sense for a long time. I think history will one day look very kindly upon him.

It looks like a great time! We need to get those impeach signs on the freeways now!!!

bears himself with extraordinary dignity, they cast an African American, such as Morgan Freeman or Denzel Washington. If Congressman Conyers did not possess such a towering intellect, more aptly usable for other purposes (I'm not knocking the value of entertainment), he perhaps might have been 'discovered' by some casting director, mightn't he?

brad's show next! He's substituting for peter b. collins. Heads up!

Thanks.:)

Great report!

his intent of inherent contempt

I posted a piece of your OP there before I thought of suggesting you call in.

You can find the open thread by going to BRAD BLOG and clicking on comments in the post about today's show.

:applause:

:bounce:

Ya did good!

:applause:

:bounce:

:yourock:

I mean, preaching to the choir and all.

Politician tries to light a fire under democracy, you throw cold water on it. I think that's premature at best. If we're stuck out in the wilderness trying to light a fire and tried ten times, are you going to be sitting there making snarky comments or hoping for the best each time? Nobody in Congress is a dictator so they are not personally responsible for making something happen they need to be supported.

So if you like it, say you support it, don't dilute it with cynicism
If you don't like it, say that too

You've a free speech right to say whatever you want but it is plainly premature to say anything at this point about the ultimate outcome of this.

PS Fox6 TV was there, plus lots of folks from Michigan including me, so I'm sure there were folks there from his district already.

Being from Michigan myself, I'd love it if he could bring 'em back from the dark side.

and politicians like Pelosi and Conyers are the ones throwing cold water on it. I have zero respect for Pelosi and I am losing faith in Conyers. While he continues to fire up the people with his 'talk', our troops and innocent Iraqis continue to die, our president has given himself the ability to declare martial law anytime he sees fit and he has ordered the treasury dept to seize the assets of anyone who "interferes" with the so-called peace in Iraq.

In the meantime, Conyers has banned the wearing of pink in his hearings and Pelosi is arresting citizens who come to her office to ask why she has taken impeachment off the table.

So you all can continue to let empty rhetoric get you excited. I will jump up and down when I see these Dems actually DO something.

save the country of my forefathers!

He knows we are all so sick of this.
Boot those losers out.

Conyers is awesome!

Impeach, indict and imprison those murderous criminals now! :grr:

Now let's just hope he follows up these words --indeed all his words-- with prompt, proper action!

Sorry to sound so pessimistic; I've just heard of so many warnings and threats from Mr. Conyers and not seen that much followed through on... yet.
Yes, he has done much more than most any other politician in Congress, but he still needs to follow through.

:loveya: Love that man! :loveya:

http://www.americanrevwar.homestead.com/files/BOSTON.HTM

The Boston Massacre (the killing of five men by British soldiers on March 5, 1770) was the culmination of civilian-military tensions that had been growing since royal troops first appeared in Massachusetts in October 1768. The soldiers were in Boston to keep order, but townspeople viewed them as potential oppressors, competitors for jobs, and threats to social mores. Brawls became common.

...........

I pray it doesn't come to this! We have to get this bunch out of the WH before this scenerio plays itself out!

And it's just what many of need to hear, I've always known this man was the real thing, and there are others as well.
John needs to know we are behind him all the way!
Thanks for posting this, God speed to all of us.:thumbsup:

England will swing again like a pendulum do.

:popcorn:

some LOVE? :loveya:

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My next contribution goes to the rep who actually DOES something, instead of just talking about it.

Sounds like he's changing his tune.

I've seen him and spoken to him numerous times here in Detroit and he has never said that. He's only given the reasons that we can't impeach. Nice to know he's coming around.

Must be the inherent contempt I have for what they have done to this nation. Throw them out on the lawn!

of more public focus / discussion on this -- which he continues to call for more of. Keep the ball of democracy rolling... (in partial response to SharonRB and others ... explaining some changed momentum now but we've each got to do our part to keep the momentum of democracy going)

how much longer can he wait? Still the momentum has to build because the Bush Criminals will find some way to block Inherent Contempt since it hasn't been used recently. Then...they will have to Impeach.

CONYERS SAID "WE NEED TO HOLD MORE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR AIDING GEORGE BUSH & MR. CHENEY"

Nancy Pelosi has always eluded to this fact. Things are going to get interesting.

Just wrote to all of the Dems on the Judiciary Committee urging them to begin IMPEACHMENT proceedings.

The current co-sponsors of HR 333, the resolution to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney, are...

Yvette Clarke New York/11
William Lacy Clay, Jr. Missouri/1
Keith Ellison Minnesota/5
Sam Farr California/17
Bob Filner California/51
Hank Johnson Georgia/4
Dennis Kucinich Ohio/10
Barbara Lee California/9
Jim McDermott Washington/7
James Moran Virginia/8
Jan Schakowsky Illinois/9
Maxine Waters California/35
Lynn Woolsey California/6
Albert Wynn Maryland/4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_House_Resolution_333#Current_Co-Sponsors

"What are we waiting for?"

Join me!:applause:

n/t

Or, if it would be too awkward for her to appear to be setting the table when she is next in line for the Oval Office after the Frat Boy and the Big Dick, she's letting Conyers do it for her.

In any case, impeachment is now on the table. We have put it there. We, the people.

For months now. This posting makes me hope and pray that I am totally, utterly wrong!

I wish to toast the retirement of my cynicism along with the nation.

How inspiring. I just love John Conyers. I wish the congress and the senate was full of men and women like him. Lucky you getting to hear him in person. Thanks for letting the rest of us know how great he was tonight. :toast:

I love John Conyers. I just hope he follows through soon on his words.

... for sharing this GREAT NEWS!!!!

:kick: and REC'D!

John Conyers has more integrity, honesty, and patriotism in the tip of his little finger than the entire Chimp cabal has put together. I do so admire him, and appreciate all he is doing to preserve our country, and the Constitution. Sir, this is for you...:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

waiting for it to be put on the table

if you have to - send Pelosi out to the store for some milk and put impeachment on the table

IMPEACHMENT - DINNER TIME

Excuse me, but I don't see where he says anything about impeachment. He seems to be playing to the room while avoiding going on the record with anything specific. Can you point out where or how he talked about impeachment?

He even spoke about so-called retroactive impeachment (impeachment after leaving office).

But I agree that with tentative or cynical reactions like yours, the intent or desire to pursue impeachment may never receive the public support of enough other reps and members of the public to actually happen successfully. It's pretty important for every one to SAY what it is that they really support. Impeachment, like any movement, feeds solely off of a growing public desire for something. Seeding doubt is very damaging to things like that.

THink of it this way: If conyers is for impeachment, he needs your support. On the other hand if he were in fact a short step away, he needs your support to get there, too. Instead you're posting radical doubts that stop you, and perhaps others, in their tracks, frozen into a position of tentativeness and non-support. Why not send a PM to the author of the OP to clarify such doubts?

What radical doubts? Why call me names? i don't see it. If i am missing it, just show me. I write my letters, I call everyone, i march. I have given money to Conyers. I should not need to defend myself here. What I see is that he wants to use inherent contempt to get the people who support Bush and Cheney in their nefarious ways--underlings. If that is all that happens those people may indeed end up in prison, one hopes. Just give me the sentence that says he is going to join Kucinich's demand to impeach Cheney and and that he also intends to introduce a bill to impeach Bush. Or anything like that. I don't have the power to do that, he does. By the way, everyone i know says I am too idealistic for my own good. That is why these blogs and the interenet don't really do justice to those of us on it. What we say is so easily misunderstood and met with derision which is supposed to silence us. Like Gore, i believe in the marketplace of ideas, and i was hoping this was one.

By the way, i am not as blog savvy as you. I thought I was replying to the originator of the post and asking for better information. How do i do that if writing here is not the way?

The reason we don't take them out is because of the wimps that populate the democratic party leadership!!

services by holding the most powerful to account, don't gain anything by blabbing about the details of their actions to all and sundry. On the contrary, they must keep their cards close to their chest, until it's appropriate to do otherwise.

Why is is that so many on here seem to think they're smarter and more courageous than Conyers? You just make people suspicious about your motives and agenda, rightly or wrongly.

:kick:

three more reps he will FILE impeachment, with or without Nancy Pelosi. See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3392226

Before the 06 election, Mr. Conyers, you wrote constantly about impeachment, and even held hearings which spelled out the grounds for impeachment.

Since the election, you've let Nancy denude our table.

WE WANT OUR TABLE SET, MR. CONYERS!!!