************** Official Gonzo Dissembling Thread #1 **************

Wednesdays

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:38 AM
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Let the games begin.

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bdamomma

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:39 AM
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1. thanks for the thread and the play by play

for us cube rats.

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Wednesdays

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:40 AM
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2. Leahy kicks off with a hugh rebuke of Gonzo and the DOJ

Go get 'em, Pat.

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Inuca

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:44 AM
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11. Specter

G: "I accept responsibility" Specter: "Let me suggest to you that is not enough"

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Inuca

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:42 AM
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3. Leahy's opening statement

Lays out all the points, including the late night visit to Ashcroft, etc. Looks mad as hell, Gonzo looks his old impertinent self.

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malaise

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:42 AM
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5. I don't trust you - Leahy

Nail this fugger Patrick.

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rodeodance

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:45 AM
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15. Whow.

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vanlassie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:42 AM
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4. Leahy: "The Justice Dept has been reduced to the role of "Enabler of the White House."

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vanlassie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:44 AM
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10. Specter: "You say you accept responsibility. That is not enough."

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MiniMe

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:42 AM
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6. Thanks for Starting this. Leahy: I don't trust you

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:44 AM
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8. cspan 1 right?

can't get it on the web for some reason

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Wednesdays

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:45 AM
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12. C-SPAN 3

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:45 AM
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13. thx

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Inuca

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:45 AM
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16. CSPAN3

I assume you can also stream from judiciary.senate.gov

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Wednesdays

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:44 AM
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9. YW. By the way, I'll need someone to carry the baton later

I have to leave in about a half hour or so, and so I won't be able to renew the threads.

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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45. I tuned in a few minutes late. Did Leahy actually SAY THAT?

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anniebelle

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:43 AM
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7. Don't Back Down Now!

:popcorn:

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bdamomma

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:45 AM
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14. we don't trust any of them.

go for it Leahy, give it to him.

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:47 AM
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18. Is Specter going to actually stand up or be an enabler?

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AzDar

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:51 AM
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32. Enabler.

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AzDar

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:47 AM
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17. I want to slap him. I am not a violent person, by any means..but this

unqualified, smug, little Renfield seems to be so comfortable destroying a once-respected department of our government that the urge now is overwhelming whenever I see his smarmy countenance.
Asshat.

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:48 AM
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20. Me too

I'm going to have to go to years of anger management therapy to get over these crooks.

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bdamomma

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:48 AM
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21. does he have that arrogant smirk on his face

they should just arrest him. little prick he is.

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Inuca

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:47 AM
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19. Specter

going through the list of what compromises he considers acceptable (many). "we now have the announecemtn that the administartion will preclude the US attorneys to persue a contenpt citation" That he does NOT like, "congressional oversight is gone"

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Inuca

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:50 AM
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24. Also mentions

that the Senate can bypass the courts, and that there are precedents. Does not dwell on the point.

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:50 AM
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25. Maybe the rethugs will stand up to this mob after all?

Hope springs and all that right?

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:51 AM
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31. I highly doubt it. They don't have the integrity it would take to do the right thing. It's not part

of their DNA.:(

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:49 AM
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22. Specter is acting like he really cares that Gonzo and Dear Leader have destroyed the DOJ and our gov

Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 08:50 AM by in_cog_ni_to

When will Arlen say he supports Impeachment?:eyes:

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Inuca

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:53 AM
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40. I think he DOES care

He can be very frustrating, but I think he does indeed care about separation of powers and the role of COngress/Senate.

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:56 AM
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56. BULL. He ALWAYS does this. He says one thing and does another. Actions are louder than words. He's

an enabler. That's why we're here.:(

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bdamomma

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:55 AM
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55. Spector walks the walks but does not talk the talk

Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 08:56 AM by alyce douglas

all hat no cattle. Get this weasel gonzo out.

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vanlassie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:49 AM
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23. Specter: "Every week a new issue arises."

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vanlassie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:51 AM
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27. Specter: You judgement and credibility is dessimated...and that's not all"

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SoCalDem

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:50 AM
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26. Here's another link too

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=2842

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librechik

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:51 AM
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28. the little shit looks as cool as a cucumber, as usual

must help to have an IQ of 80.

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:51 AM
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29. Specter's actually ripping him a new one

I missed Leahy unfortunately.

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MiniMe

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:53 AM
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39. Yes, unfortunately, Specter talks a good talk, but wimps out when it comes

down to it. He has disapointed me too many times.

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Wednesdays

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:51 AM
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30. Specter bringing up the Ashcroft hospital thing

Says he's gonna ask about it later. :popcorn:

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:53 AM
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37. What's the point of oaths with these oafs?

They could lie to their own mothers.

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bdamomma

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:58 AM
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67. they probably did lie to their mothers.

they need to be slapped down hard.

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Hepburn

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:52 AM
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33. Wow.......Specter!

He's going after Gonzo....big time and says he is planning to question Gonzo about going to Ashcroft's bedside to get that approval.

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malta blue

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:52 AM
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34. Specter really laid into him... Gonzo being sworn now.

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malaise

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:52 AM
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36. Gonzo is sworn in

now he starts the lies

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Wednesdays

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:52 AM
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35. I solemly swear that I don't recall...

:eyes:

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:53 AM
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41. blah blah blah

We're protecting your children, terra terra terra. Need more help from congress?

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:53 AM
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38. Gonzo's just been sworn in. Time to bring out the old stand-by phrase..."I don't recall."

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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43. Can't they cut off this bullshit and get to questions?

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MiniMe

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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47. They sent him some questions in advance, and told him that they better

not hear "I don't recall" today.

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:57 AM
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66. LOL...riiight. I'm so sure he's going to tell the truth today. He can't change his tact now.

He's covering up too many crimes.

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Hepburn

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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42. Gonzo....opening statement....

...:puke:

Patting himself on the back about keeping our nation safe from terrorists and our children safe from predators.

What a crock of shit.

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malta blue

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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48. FISA FISA - TERRA TERRA

:banghead:

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:55 AM
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50. He's scared shitless despite his smug mug.

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blondeatlast

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:55 AM
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51. Who's keeping my son safe from the Bush cabal? I'm way more scared of them. nt

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bdamomma

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Tue Jul-24-07 09:00 AM
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74. same ole shit, they are protecting nothing, but themselves.

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vanlassie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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44. Gonzo: "I need more help from Congress....

To keep our children safe."

Excuse me while I go retch.

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KoKo

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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46. Gonzo is blithering on about Terraists.....A speech having nothing to do with what he's accused of!

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madokie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:54 AM
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49. It just plain makes sense

gonzo you lost me there boy

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Hepburn

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:57 AM
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62. Did my ears betray me???

Did that POS giving his opening bilge of lies...er...statement...just say he has been protecting the privacy of US citizens??? Or something like that? I was doing something with the dog ... and not sure I heard what I thought I heard.

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The Cleaner

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:55 AM
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52. Specter said they have no choice but to move forward on this...

meaning impeachment?? This was after a list of misgivings.

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:56 AM
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57. A senate charge of contempt I think.

New ammunition?

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Blackhatjack

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:55 AM
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53. This is what it looks like when a Repub understands Gonzo is beyond redemption...

Gonzo is corrupt, untruthful, and unrepentant for all his transgressions.

If there were a chance in the world that he could be rehabilitated, Specter would give it to him.

No dice here. Specter understands.

If Repubs are to save even a shred of credibility he has to attack Gonzo for the obvious.

Specter is not about to be painted with the same openly corrupt paintbush.

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blondeatlast

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:56 AM
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60. I think Specter may be the one RRRepublican who understands that

GWB doesn't give a rat's ass about Congress--RRRepub or otherwise.

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formercia

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Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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80. Specter is a survivor.

One does not survive by jumping into a school of Sharks, uh, I mean lawyers.

but then, my sig paints another side of the Senator.

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MiniMe

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:55 AM
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54. Gonzo, the F in FISA stands for Foreign

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pdxmom

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:56 AM
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58. He's using his opening statement to slap the hand of Congress for

not doing what the administrations wants. This is a soapbox for him.

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:57 AM
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Just impeach this asshole please?

Charge him with contempt right now and have the Sgt at arms take his ass away.

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MiniMe

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:57 AM
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64. He thinks that FISA doesn't apply to foreign calls

Idiot, F stands for Foreign, not for your grade as AG

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KoKo

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:57 AM
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65. SHUT UP GONZO!!! IMPEACH HIS ASS!

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KoKo

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:58 AM
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69. Leahy saying he has FOIA Documents! Illegal Searches, etc....

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The Cleaner

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:56 AM
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59. Al Qaida is after us! Terrorism! Now let me go and watch my golf swing.

n/t

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KoKo

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:56 AM
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61. I swear these Bush Bots are really what that means...Robots!

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Blackhatjack

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:57 AM
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63. Typical Repub tactic... divert attention, ignore the real issues, plead ignorance..n/t

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MissMillie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:58 AM
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68. I thought their surveillance was "legal"

if it's "legal" why do they need a change in the law?

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:58 AM
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70. i got 2nd thread folks gimmee a sec.

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bdamomma

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Tue Jul-24-07 09:02 AM
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78. second vote for a second thread

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vanlassie

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:59 AM
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71. Specter: "We have docs that show that you participated in illegal acts..."

"Would you like to revise or correct your misleading responses to this committee's request?"

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Inuca

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:59 AM
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72. This is no longer about the firings

It's an all out attack on everything. Leahy is now questioning about Partiot Act violations & inconsistencies in G's testimonies about this.

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MiniMe

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Tue Jul-24-07 08:59 AM
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73. Leahy: Would you like to revise your prior statements?

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MiniMe

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Tue Jul-24-07 09:00 AM
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76. Gonzo not answering the question

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shadowknows69

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Tue Jul-24-07 09:00 AM
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75. 2nd thread started here

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1418344>

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Norquist Nemesis

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Tue Jul-24-07 09:01 AM
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77. grr...he had a heads up on the questions so he could "prepare"

Leahy just said he sent him his questions in advance. Well...at least Leahy seems to be holding his feet to the fire on answering them. Gonzo trying to go on and on saying nothing...as usual.

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Blackhatjack

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Tue Jul-24-07 09:03 AM
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79. Which Committee Member Will Be The First To Accuse Gonzo of "Lying?"

It is going to happen. Most likely they will say your testimony is 'untruthful' but that is the same thing.

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