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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:33 AM
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A short synopsis of Giuliani's (and Romney's) stellar military service record
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But he (Giuliani) has always confined his enthusiasm for war to podium speeches and position papers. Born in 1944, young Rudy was highly eligible for military service when he reached his 20s during the Vietnam War. He did not volunteer for combat -- as Kerry did -- and instead found a highly creative way to dodge the draft.

During his years as an undergraduate at Manhattan College and then at New York University Law School, Giuliani qualified for a student deferment. Upon graduation from law school in 1968, he lost that temporary deferment and his draft status reverted to 1-A, the designation awarded to those most qualified for induction into the Army.

At the same time, Giuliani won a clerkship with federal Judge Lloyd McMahon in the fabled Southern District of New York, where he would become the United States attorney. He naturally had no desire to trade his ticket on the legal profession's fast track for latrine duty in the jungle. So he quickly applied for another deferment based on his judicial clerkship. This time the Selective Service System denied his claim.

That was when the desperate Giuliani prevailed upon his boss to write to the draft board, asking them to grant him a fresh deferment and reclassification as an "essential" civilian employee. As the great tabloid columnist Jimmy Breslin noted 20 years later, during the former prosecutor's first campaign for mayor: "Giuliani did not attend the war in Vietnam because federal Judge Lloyd MacMahon wrote a letter to the draft board in 1969 and got him out. Giuliani was a law clerk for MacMahon, who at the time was hearing Selective Service cases. MacMahon's letter to Giuliani's draft board stated that Giuliani was so necessary as a law clerk that he could not be allowed to get shot at in Vietnam."

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Today Giuliani's problem is not avoiding military service but explaining how and why he avoided it. A spokesperson for the candidate recently told New York magazine that he "has made it clear that if he had been called up, he would have served," which doesn't quite expiate his strenuous efforts to make sure that never happened. Giuliani opposed the Vietnam War for "strategic and tactical" reasons as well, according to his flack. Of course, that sounds much like the bipartisan dissent against the Iraq war that he now dismisses so contemptuously.

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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:41 AM
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1. Another chicken-hawk armchair coward.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:46 AM
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2. Chickenhawk, chickenhawk
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:47 AM
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3. Jeebus, he could have gone in as an officer.
Lawyer MOS. The worst that could have happened to him is a turn with the SJA Hq in Saigon - not all that risky. As for the "strategic and tactical" opposition, oh please.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:51 AM
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4. Digby's excellent take on chickenhawks:
"And then there were the chickenhawks. They were neither part of the revolution nor did they take the obvious step of volunteering to fight the war they supported. Indeed, due to the draft, they allowed others to fight and die in their place despite the fact that they believed heartily that the best response to communism was to aggressively fight it "over there" so we wouldn't have to fight it here.

These were empty boys, unwilling to put themselves on the line at the moment of truth, yet they held the masculine virtues as the highest form of human experience and have portrayed themselves ever since as tough, uncompromising manly men while portraying liberals as weak and effeminate."

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2005_07_03_digbysblog_archive.html#112094486398202142
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