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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 04:13 AM
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want impeachment? . . . have Barbara Jordan talk to Congressman Conyers . . .
Barbara Jordan was a hero to John Conyers . . . if we all took a moment to remind him of her words on impeachment, it might just make a difference . .

if all of us in favor of impeachment copied the following words by Barbara Jordan and mailed them to Conyers office, he might actually read one of our letters/e-mails . . . if e-mailed, we should use a uniform title such as "Congressman Conyers, PLEASE listen to Barbara Jordan!" . . .

I'm sending mine now . . . hope others will join me . . .

Barbara Jordan on Impeachment
thanks to DUer Solly Mack for posting . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1424859

"Earlier today, we heard the beginning of the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States: "We, the people." It's a very eloquent beginning. But when that document was completed on the seventeenth of September in 1787, I was not included in that "We, the people." I felt somehow for many years that George Washington and Alexander Hamilton just left me out by mistake. But through the process of amendment, interpretation, and court decision, I have finally been included in "We, the people."

Today I am an inquisitor. An hyperbole would not be fictional and would not overstate the solemnness that I feel right now. My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total. And I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction, of the Constitution.
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It is wrong, I suggest, it is a misreading of the Constitution for any member here to assert that for a member to vote for an article of impeachment means that that member must be convinced that the President should be removed from office. The Constitution doesn't say that. The powers relating to impeachment are an essential check in the hands of the body of the legislature against and upon the encroachments of the executive. The division between the two branches of the legislature, the House and the Senate, assigning to the one the right to accuse and to the other the right to judge, the framers of this Constitution were very astute. They did not make the accusers and the judgers -- and the judges the same person.

We know the nature of impeachment. We've been talking about it awhile now. It is chiefly designed for the President and his high ministers to somehow be called into account. It is designed to "bridle" the executive if he engages in excesses. "It is designed as a method of national inquest into the conduct of public men."² The framers confided in the Congress the power if need be, to remove the President in order to strike a delicate balance between a President swollen with power and grown tyrannical, and preservation of the independence of the executive."

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:04 AM
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1. Jordan had the benefit of convictions and the Watergate Committee
It was months and months after those convictions before the impeachment articles were written.

Conyers committee is doing work, not unlike the Watergate Committee did before Articles of Impeachment were drawn up. She would likely tell him to continue with his investigation.

But, this shit of taking her comments in that case, outside convictions and all, and supposing them with today's events is more than dishonest. It's downright blasphemous.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:11 AM
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2. Yeah, sick Barbara Jordan on the bruva. Y'all have gone FUCKING nuts.
Yes. All black folk think the same. Surely if Barbara Jordan tells him to draw up articles he's gonna just sit down and write them and just stop any investigations he's got going on.

This post outlines DU's irrelevance along with the other stupid ass posts about Conyers of late.

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